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Datura is UNPREDICTABLE and CONFUSING (question)

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1 week ago I've gathered 50 seed pods from D. stramonium plants that I've planted last spring in my backyard.Around 10.000 seeds.

These seeds got mixed and now I don't know which seeds are from which plants...you get it :D

So,as a relatively experienced/crazy datura tripper,my dosage ranges from 150 seeds to 400 seeds.

Most of the times,I take datura twice a week and here's why:

1 time I trip balls.
and the other time...I don't trip at all,I only get cotton mouth,dried skin,dilated pupils and a slight feeling similar to being drunk (nothing close to datura stoned feeling)

So,there are 2 reasons for this happening: (in my opinion)

1. My tolerance doesn't allow me to trip more than once a week.
2. I have very potent seeds from some plants mixed with seeds that aren't potent at all from other plants and taking 2 tbsp of seeds is like playing russian roulette.

I ask this because,sometimes,the 1st time when I take datura I trip and the 2nd time,I don't.
But,sometimes,it's the opposite,the 1st time I don't trip and the 2nd time I trip really hard.

So,what do you think?
What is the cause of this ''inconvenience''?

I'm excited to hear your opinion. :D
 
I think that with that many seeds if they got mixed (properly) variance in potency between plants, if there even is any, should be leveled.

Probably tolerance, which can be unpredictable and I don't even know that much about anticholinergic tolerance. If you trip twice a week it should matter how many days are in between, otherwise which one is the first time and which one is the second time? Or do you always leave the exact same days in between? (That would be about 3).. It's not like if you trip on monday it is the first time because it is the start of the week =D I highly doubt Datura cares about the calender.
And stronger doses are bound to cause more tolerance.

I also think you are indeed crazy or very unwise to take Datura that often, You couldn't pay me to take it once.
 
Solipsis said:
I think that with that many seeds if they got mixed (properly) variance in potency between plants, if there even is any, should be leveled.
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I also think you are indeed crazy or very unwise to take Datura that often, You couldn't pay me to take it once.
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Perhaps the tropane content of a particular patch of datura is an phenotypical expression. My knowledge is also limited , but could could it be possible that high alk content is a recessive x recessive trait (Mendelian) and that a very few percent of seeds are m80's hiding amongst firecrackers. If you mixed them crudely, there could be hotspots in your bag???

PS An interesting side note....From what I understand the anticholinergics are counteracted by things like nerve gas and vise versa...
 
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Solipsis said:
I also think you are indeed crazy or very unwise to take Datura that often, You couldn't pay me to take it once.
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Well,I'm taking datura for 2 years now and I'm planning to do so for another 8 years and write a book about my life that consists in daily tripping.

I have enough money from renting 3 apartments to sustain this weird life style that I've always dreamed of when I was young.

Twice a week I take datura.
Twice a week I take dxm.
Once a week I take A. muscaria.
And once a week I take salvia divinorum.
Sunday is my ''sober day''

In 2020 I'm going to finish my book and end my 10 year long tripping adventure. xD
 
Is it really that hard staying non-delirious and in control while on Datura. I mean if you were to write. "You have taken Datura" on both of your hands, or somehow left yourself a note which would remind you that you are actually on a drug. Could delirium be somehow diminished, or reduced.
I have never taken, tried and just read stories about trips on erowid.
 
In my case,when I meet the Toloache God while tripping on datura,I instantly realize that I'm high on datura.

Other way in which I realize that I'm tripping is when I have to urinate,while high on datura you experience urinary retention,that's another reminder for me.

And yes,the delirium diminishes when you realize that you're tripping.
Also,the delirium from datura can diminish when you take a cold bath because datura delirium is caused by the fact that your body temp raises dramatically,so,if you stop that,you won't experience mind blown delirium.
 
I would read a book by someone who had taken datura twice a week for two years, let alone 10. Don't you have enough material yet?
 
You must really have an acquired taste for these strange drugs, I for one could never stand to do that regiment for one week let alone 2 years or the ludicrous proposed 10 years
 
SWIM Had A Dream said:
Perhaps the tropane content of a particular patch of belladonna is an phenotypical expression.
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Seems like a given, all metabolic properties are a function of genetic expression, I guess the point (you might be conveying) is more whether it is a pure classical dominance thing
My knowledge is also limited , but could could it be possible that high alk content is a recessive x recessive trait (Mendelian) and that a very few percent of seeds are m80's hiding amongst firecrackers. If you mixed them crudely, there could be hotspots in your bag???
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Like I said, with the number of seeds being this large, the relative potency of the hotspot seed(s) would have to be so high that I think we would see many deaths and the typical approach to Datura consumption being impossible. Homogenization via extraction or making a similar consistent preparation would be needed in that case.
 
This is the wildest combo I've ever heard of anyone useing on a regular routine. Sure there are people who take every and anything, whatever they get there hands on but you have a mix there that make me scared for you. Its like your walking on the railing of a bridge over a highway right next to me. Whether you complete that book or fall off the bridge is a toss up. Take care and good luck.
 
bitchamonth said:
Is it really that hard staying non-delirious and in control while on Datura. I mean if you were to write. "You have taken Datura" on both of your hands, or somehow left yourself a note which would remind you that you are actually on a drug. Could delirium be somehow diminished, or reduced.
I have never taken, tried and just read stories about trips on erowid.
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Having only taken diphenhydramine I can only comment on that.. but no.. writing on your hands probably won't do a damn think to stop the delerium.
 
bunnyhentman said:
I would read a book by someone who had taken datura twice a week for two years, let alone 10. Don't you have enough material yet?
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I've written 70 pages of mind blowing trip reports,14 poems & 9 abstract drawings(while tripping),35 pages about my psychotic episodes and 25 pages about the time that I've spent in the mental institutions because of datura and dxm overdose.

As a perfectionist,hard worker and drug enthusiast,I must admit that my book isn't finished yet.
 
Shadowsblaze said:
This is the wildest combo I've ever heard of anyone useing on a regular routine. Sure there are people who take every and anything, whatever they get there hands on but you have a mix there that make me scared for you. Its like your walking on the railing of a bridge over a highway right next to me. Whether you complete that book or fall off the bridge is a toss up. Take care and good luck.
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While in the process of writing this book,I risked my life 2 times,by taking a huge overdose of DXM & a huge overdose of datura.
Both times I ended up having a NDE,staying in a coma and then being sent to a mental institution where I've met people crazier than me.
 
.:Holy::Toast:. said:
You must really have an acquired taste for these strange drugs, I for one could never stand to do that regiment for one week let alone 2 years or the ludicrous proposed 10 years
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You need ambition or you need to be crazily determined or strongly motivated by something.

The thing that determined me to start this 10 year long tripping adventure is represented by the fact that I had abusive parents that were totally against drugs.
So,every time I would come home a bit drunk,my father would beat me.
Every time I would smoke some cigarettes,my mother would ground me.

Until the age of 18,I was literally the most innocent kid in the neighborhood,all of my friends would go to parties,my parents won't let me because I wasn't allowed to drink alcohol.

This made me extremely furious so when I've finally managed to get rid of my abusive parents,I didn't know what to do.I felt free,I felt like I was released from jail.
...then I got this idea,tripping 6 times a week for 10 years.
So I've told my friends about this and all of them laughed and thought that I'm joking.

Then I decided to start my research about drugs and these were the easy-to-get & weird substances that interested me.

At the age of 19,I took my first drug,a bottle of Robitussin from the local pharmacy and I fell in love with it.
At the age of 20,I promised to myself that if I won't finish my 10 year long tripping adventure as I planned,I will commit suicide.

A promise is a promise and I hope I'll never break it.

So,here I am,after 2 years of tripping 6 times a week.A miserable,psychotic robot-like person that won't abandon his mission because he made a promise to himself that he can't break.

The only thing that I want is to get alive after 10 years of tripping,that's the single wish that I have.

I'm curious what I'll do after...
 
Spearfishing Great White sharks could be a challenge up your alley. Or paddleless white water canoeing. Better yet skydiving where you throw your parashute out first and go after it like Arnold. Joking bro, I'm sure you'll find something interesting, but I think 5 yrs. is a good study period for what your attempting, hell 2 would be good for my book.
 
I bet you will end up in an institution permanently or at the end of the 10 years you won't have the mental capacity to put the book together
 
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