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Amphetamine anxiety help

Lightning-Nl

Lightning-Nl

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So I plugged too much Adderall (90MG's over a 7 hour period) and now I'm experiencing moderate psychotic symptoms.

I need to know what to do, this is getting bad. Btw, I've already taken 7MG's of Ativan. It's helping, but I need other suggestions.

Thanks guys.
 
I have no antipsychotics on hand anything else I can use? How else to I kill this? Help needed a ton.
 
afterlyfestyle said:
Hey mate, try my exercise thing I mentioned to you in TDS?
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Yeah I've been exercising. But, this is an immoderate episode of psychosis. What can I do for this?

Fortunately, the now 11 milligrams of Ativan is really starting to kick in and I've calmed down a bit. But it's not over yet.

I wonder why this happened with only 90MG's over a 7 hour period? This only started when I plugged my last 10MG. Why would that bring on sudden, severe, and awful anxiety, with full on delusions and full on (although mild) hallucination?

I was able to get a friend over here to sit with me and I'm that's helping a lot of the anxiety.

And I ate a fuck ton of oranges in an attempt to acidify my body so more amphetamine can be excreted. The acidification should also keep anymore from being absorbed in my stomach and bowel.

But anything else I can do? Thanks guys.
 
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Good to hear about the exercise, keep at it ironman ;)

To be honest I can't think of much else. You've got a friend with you!! This is at least very good. I can only think to ride it out mate, keep the nerves as calm as you can and remember that you're still gonna go to bed wake up the next day everything is gonna be A OK!

Everythings gonna be alright just remember that :)
 
Yes, go to the hospital.

You might be experiencing symptoms of an OD.

Or have you heard of TSS. Toxic shock syndrome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_shock_syndrome

Anytime you stick something in an orifice you are a candidate for TSS/ although very rare.

Let me say that 90MG!!!! Holy crap. I never take more than 40 mg in any one day and It's plenty.
 
You're not going to get toxic shock syndrome from plugging drugs.

The best antidote to an amphetamine overdose is time.
 
Extremely unlikely you're suffering toxic shock. You've just taken too much and your body can't handle it. Taking 11mg of Ativan probably wasn't the best idea either however i know how you feel I've been in the same boat before but instead of amphetamine it was extremely pure cocaine.

Just wait for it to calm you down. By the way, high dose lorazepam has been known to cause hallucinations and strange symptoms that are uncommon for benzos. The regular dose is 2-4mg IV'd, and it's never exceeded for that reason. If a patient requires further sedation they will push diazepam.

I suggest you invest in some xanax (it's fast, potent and works), clonazepam for its anti-seizure properties (although it's a bit slow to start working) or preferably diazepam as it's a mixture of the two. Only get one, not all three.

Also- try promethazine next time. 25mg will kill an amphetamine high dead in about 10mins.
 
Not Again said:
Yes, go to the hospital.

You might be experiencing symptoms of an OD.

Or have you heard of TSS. Toxic shock syndrome.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toxic_shock_syndrome

Anytime you stick something in an orifice you are a candidate for TSS/ although very rare.

Let me say that 90MG!!!! Holy crap. I never take more than 40 mg in any one day and It's plenty.
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I was going to go to the hospital but I don't have the money. Besides, all they do for a stimulant overdose (if that's really what this is) is.....give you Lorazepam (Ativan). So I figured taking my Ativan would be nearly the same as the hospital. The one thing that may have been a better option is they could have RX'd me antipsychotics. Which after this episode - I REALLY should have around in case of emergencys.

The toxic shock syndrome stuff scared me a bit. Mainly due to the fact that I didn't sanitize the syringe before I used it. However, I don't think that's it for a couple reasons. I don't have any rash or itchiness, I'm not physically ill, and my heart rate is still pretty high from the stimulants. Fortunately, my blood pressures low, but my heart rate is high. But I digress.

I have some amoxicillin, and possible some Doxycycline on hand. Just incase this is an infection, should I take some?
 
Thats stupid that they give Benzodiazepine to people who OD on stimulants... A low dose of Quetiapine would do the trick and hopefully help you get some sleep aswell.
 
Lol no, you don't have an infection. why the hell would you post that to someone who's suffering from psychosis due to amphetamines? Now you're going to spook him the hell out.

DONT TAKE ANYTHING ELSE, I REPEAT, NOTHING ELSE.

And quark no it's not stupid whatsoever. It saved a friend of mines life when he OD'd on 7 grams of speed. It's what you're meant to give. If you pump an anti-psychotic into a dopamine flooded brain, you're complicating matters a great deal.
 
After this experience I'm going to make sure that I always have so e antipsychotics around in case of emergencies.

Tomorrow, first thing I'm gonna do, is ask a friend of mine if I can buy his bottle of leftover Geodon. Ziprasidone is one of the strongest and most potent antipsychotics that exists. It should be a good candidate as a backup plan incase this ever happens again.
 
Sigh.....

Don't use antipsychotics as a remedy to amphetamine or stimulant overdose. They won't help and can possibly induce even worse life threatening effects as they also raise blood pressure. Get your hands on some diazepam/xanax/clonazepam instead.

They will cause hypertensive crisis and you're then going to see full circulatory system collapse. I cannot stress this enough DO NOT USE ANTI-PSYCHOTICS FOR STIMULANT OVERDOSES

Ativan is only really helpful IVed. You now need to wait for it to kick in.

How long has it been since you took the Ativan?
 
synthetix said:
Sigh.....

Don't use antipsychotics as a remedy to amphetamine or stimulant overdose. They won't help and can possibly induce even worse life threatening effects as they also raise blood pressure. Get your hands on some diazepam/xanax/clonazepam instead.

They will cause hypertensive crisis and you're then going to see full circulatory system collapse. I cannot stress this enough DO NOT USE ANTI-PSYCHOTICS FOR STIMULANT OVERDOSES

Ativan is only really helpful IVed. You now need to wait for it to kick in.

How long has it been since you took the Ativan?
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I wasn't talking about stimulant overdoses. What I was saying is - I want an antipsychotic on hand in case stimulant psychosis happens again.

And it's been around an hour and 40 minutes since I took the last Ativan.it definitely has kicked in.
 
Remember when you properly plug adderall you absorb 95% of the drug, and the oral bioavailiblity (the way your suppose to take it) is very low 22%. So your dose that you had was much higher since the 90mg you did was rectally which absorbs A LOT more of the drug than orally or snorting.

I have plugged upto 60mg and had a rush pretty strong to the point i didn't feel like moving much, and was kinda in and out for a good half hour. But i didn't have any psychotic symptoms or anything out of the ordinary just a real intense buzz/rush (which is good). And i did that all at once with no tolerance.

Everybody's body/brain chemistry is different, so maybe you just took much for your body/brain to handle don't do so much next time. Remember plugging makes adderall A LOT stronger so its easier to have an overdose or psychotic symptoms than it is with orally (which takes quiet a bit more milligrams).
 
Umm....anti-psychotics are totally appropriate in cases of psychosis due to chronic dosing at length but below thresholds of physiological toxicity.

ebola
 
I agree with you Ebola but the the common and appropriate dosing method of people when in panic mode due to a stimulant overload is to megadose (as proved by 11mg of Ativan above). Many people will simply megadose anti-psychotics, and unless they are on a regiment of them to be taken daily at a given dose, then they will cause many more problems than good. Only in a hospital setting should they be administered in my opinion - I don't know whether you agree with me or not on that one.

Benzos have an extremely large margin of "forgiveness" to put it simply, in that people can take a large dose of them and wake up the next day just feeling terrible, but anti-psychotics are very tricky in terms of efficacy when used in these types of situations. The margin for error is just too large to even consider self administration of them while you're in a highly agitated state.
 
alright, I won't and I didn't. Just 11MG's of Lorazepam...

Thank GOD I had that Ativan on hand. I couldn't imagine going through an ordeal like this again without it. I've definitely learned from this experience. This has also motivated me to cut back entirely on my drug use. From now on, I plan on only taking prescription doses, through prescription ROA. Maybe, I'll budge again and rectally admin 10MG's if I haven't had more than 40MG's that day already. But that's it.

I got extremely lucky with this. I'm not planning on ever doing it again.

So an amphetamine overdose can occur at 90MG's of Adderall when plugged?
 
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