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The Big & Dandy 4-HO-MET Thread - Part 2

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I prefer oral (gelcap) ROA. Not tried this yet.

Anyone got suggestions on dosage? I'd be interested in info of duration and effects regarding the dosage suggestion. Thanks.
 
Never tried the HO version but 4-aco-met was very nice at 30mg for me. Hardly felt like I was tripping but it produced very impressive geometric open eye visuals. Very nice material!!
 
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If you have the 4-HO-MET fumarate salt, 25mg will blast you for a good 5 hours or so. I rather liked 4-HO-MET. It was probably my favorite all-around between 4-HO-DiPT, 4-HO-DET, 4-HO-MiPT, 4-AcO-DiPT, 4-AcO-DMT, 4-AcO-DET, and 4-AcO-MiPT.

Its light on the mind and very visual with a very low body load. I had a reaction that didn't seem to be common at the time though - I found the plateau to last around 6 hours with the total duration being 9 hours so it was quite long-lived in me.
 
Help?!?! said:
^Psychedelics with similar compounds often elicit fairly similar visuals, so would go as far to say that there is an archetype of any psychedelic visual considering its all math/geometry and that!
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Yes, all the psychedelics I've tried have similar or same patterns. I've "yet to HO-MET" though :)
 
I found the visuals with the ACO version ( and I would imagine the ho version being quite similar) to be somewhat unique. Very geometrical. They were closer to n,n, DMT visuals than 4-aco-DMT for me. I found that I didn't have wild closed eye visuals on the aco though but the open eye visuals more than made up for it.
 
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I found the visuals with the ACO version ( and I would imagine the ho version being quite similar) to be somewhat unique. Very geometrical. They were closer to n,n, DMT visuals than 4-aco-DMT for me. I found that I didn't have wild closed eye visuals on the aco though but the open eye visuals more than made up for it.
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Similar experience here with the hydroxylated version. I never got my hands on the acetoxy.

I found 4-HO-MET to be in a world of its own. Very cool OEVs and a nice long comfortable trip but hardly anything with closed eyes. Made it very easy to drift off to sleep when I wanted to as I'm very prone to CEVs keeping me up.

4-HO-MET was extremely colorful too. Very cool chemical. Probably the least serious tryptamine I've ever had. I certainly wouldn't hesitate to give it to someone for their first trip (and did so a few times, everyone had a great time without fail) and it doesn't fog your mind up either. Its a functional psychedelic and those are rare in the tryptamine world.
 
I found 4-HO-MET a mighty ally, some might call it dull or weak but like pointed out on this page this is one of those special 4-subs anyways, as most 4-subs I can take fairly to pretty damn high doses of without much bother, but 4-HO-MET, for me past 20mgs? Never, just not needed would only add more anxiety/stress and I suppose it would add more to the visuals but I received a solid/strong +++ from 12mgs..... Miss this old dandy! Been too long since i've been graced with 4-HO-MET, one of the few 4-subs that really melded with me and was easy going enough yet had unbelievably intricate visuals which was very occupying, as the CEV's and the geometrics they were forming were nearly second to none!
 
A buddy and I both took approximately 40 mg each (fumarate) orally and had a really fun trip. Very strong visuals, laughter and euphoria, just pure hedonism, with a pinch of introspective thoughts. After about 2-3 hours we combined this with 5-MAPB which also went very well and led to moments that can only be described as bliss.
 
50mg was a wonderful ++++ for me. That's when I woke up.
I knew I had experienced something life-changing but it took 2-3 years to fully interpret that. A bit like Alpert/Dass's experiences in "Be Here Now".

Still working on it now !

edit: T0h: 13mg 4HOMET and T+1h30 12mg 4HOMET and reading Be Here Now + doing yoga and triggerpoint massage helped me partly silence my ego and live in the spirit. Wonderful compound.
 
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a small dose of ~15mg was a beautiful +2 at the highest, but overall a higly enjoyable ride through memories, good music, great food ...

having a break from tryptamines seems to have brought back much of their magic
 
Very cool OEVs and a nice long comfortable trip but hardly anything with closed eyes.
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I got a 4 hour trip and intricate jeweled domes with eyes closed.

ebola
 
Its not uncommon for there to be more activity with eyes open than eyes closed. I noticed the same thing with 4-HO-MET. Marked open eye visuals but very little with the eyes closed.
 
Been snorting a-pvp for the last few hours. It's ok.

Just gelcapped 30mgs 4-HO-MET on an empty stomach. I will return.

7.30 – fast come up – psychedelic shadows, pupils large, colours vivid, strong visceral feeling – patterns on surfaces

next 3 hours – more of the same. Last hour, depression, weeping.

Next 5 hours – slow come down – eyes slowly return to normal. Need 2 zopiclone to sleep (3.30am)
 
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Are there any reports of bioassaying 4-PO-MET through the use of a mushroom substrate?
I'm heavily considering using a large amount of my MET stash in order to attempt an organic synth of metopscybin, purely out of curiosity.
 
Anyone mix 4-HO-MET with any 5-APB? All I can find is this trainwreck involving 4-HO-MET and 6-apb but dosage was likely to blame. I'd likely be goin with 15mgs of the metocin and 80mgs of 5-APB.
 
Can anyone explain the qualitative differences between this and 4-aco-met? The only info I have really found is that 4-aco-met has a longer duration and supposed similar effects. :)
 
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Can anyone explain the qualitative differences between this and 4-aco-met? The only info I have really found is that 4-aco-met has a longer duration and supposed similar effects. :)
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It varies, but in my experience, the two were very similar except that 4-AcO-MET was all around more smoother and felt better, whereas 4-HO-MET felt much rougher on my body whenever I tried it.
 
Madrus said:
It varies, but in my experience, the two were very similar except that 4-AcO-MET was all around more smoother and felt better, whereas 4-HO-MET felt much rougher on my body whenever I tried it.
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Not to say everyone feels that 4-aco-met is smoother/better feeling, but why does 4-ho-met seem to be much more popular (at least in these forums)? Is one easier to synth?
 
desertracer543 said:
Not to say everyone feels that 4-aco-met is smoother/better feeling, but why does 4-ho-met seem to be much more popular (at least in these forums)? Is one easier to synth?
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4-HO-MET was sold by many more vendors than 4-AcO-MET was, iirc, but that may have changed recently, who knows.
 
So I finally gave this a go last night at a lower end dose of 15mgs and was very surprised at how active it was at this level, I'd compare it to about 2 grams of shrooms with less mindfuck and more visuals. The visuals were in between DMT and mushrooms leaning more towards DMT, lots of mechanical shapeshifting dimensonal patterns, it was a beautiful drug. The drug as a whole felt closer to mushrooms than 4-ACO-DMT to me which before this experience psilacetin was the closest thing. It was a bit different than I expected, many claim that it's all glittery gay colors and positive vibes but it felt like it had potential to get deep at higher doses but maybe because it felt so similar to mushrooms and DMT which both have given me a run for it's money more than a few times. While 4-ACO-DMT can have a rocky come-up I felt that the vibes were a bit more joyful and friendly but I'm sure many will disagree but I think I might like metocin more. So far I give it an A. I'm going to a small-ish festival next weekend and am debating whether to combo this with 5-APB or 2c-c. I have a feeling the 2c-c combo is gonna be rediculously visual and the APB combo rediculously euphoric. The APB combo is likely gonna be better for parties but it's only been three weeks since my last run with it so idk. Either way I'll post how it goes.
 
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