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just been dumped

On the surface this seems very reasonable - decent even. But all it actually says is "I fancy someone else. I would just shag him but you actually are quite nice so I'm gonna skirt the issue and say summat soothing instead rather than just do it behind yer back". Have tried to find some other meaning to it but really can't. These things happen and are always gonna hurt so I appreciate the (relatively) gentle let-down but it's happened so often (literally all of my longterm(ish) ladyfriends) that it kinda leaves a boy hopeless :\

The obvious answer is to try to become a twat... I'm just not though. So am doomed to a life alone or - at best - a "Ah well, I suppose she'll do..." relationship if I'm lucky. Why is it that all the good ones seem to crave abuse?
Yay, good to see you around. :) And I dunno, if you're being called "too nice" then I suspect you might need to act a bit more confident/enthusiastic around girlies. But then I've never met you so it's hard to speculate what you're like IRL. I very much doubt you could actually become a twat, though.

Fish, sea, etc.
 
Nah, I'm surprisingly confident really. Cos I'm fukkin great. Enthusiasm could be an issue cos I'm maybe not so demonstrative in some ways... but certainly not in the affectionate way. Is so hard to know how to be though. Can only really be me and me is "Too nice". Once or twice would not be an issue, but every single time? This is clearly a problem with me. And I wish I knew how to fix it. I have no fukkin clue though :!

Have always had way more female friends than male friends - give me a girlie night out over an "all lads together (*retch*) everytime - so have asked frequently. Answer is always summat along the lines of "You're what women dream of. Don't change anything. All of my girlfriends would love you (etc, etc)". All very nice but also utter bullshit cos I'm not, I should, and they don't (not for more than a few months or couple years at the most anyway) :|

Meh. Bitter? Twisted? Moi?!? nononononononononononono :p

#FishSea.

EDIT: Back for all of a post or three and am already derailing threads to talk about me :D

EDIT2: I should possibly also point out that all those exes I mentioned did go straight into a relationship with somebody else so is not just paranoia on my part - is observed fact :p;):!
 
seemingly out of nowhere. Fuck it man.

Last time I saw her I had a go at her about pointless shit because I was on a brutal comedown and hadn't slept for days. It took me a few days to realize that I don't actually give a shit about anything I thought I did at the time, but before I could even show her that she fucking dumps me. Waited all summer and turned down better looking girls than her for this shit. Fuck it all. Gonna get majorly drunk and eat some etiz now.

and I know this htread is probably pointless and will get trolled to shit but i'm already drunk and I don't care.

I hate to say it... but I think your attitude of judging woman on whoever looks prettier is quite shallow. Am I being a cunt if I say what comes around goes around?

Don't mean to sound insensitive to your situation though. Being dumped can really hurt your self-esteem.... try not to get to low about it as it's most likely you just aren't right for each other

Shambles said:
The thing I garnered from my previous relationship-based navel-gazing was that I need to be more of a twat. More of an arse. A bellend. An utter scumfuck. This goes completely against everything I believe in and stand for but I guess I don't get to make the rules so is not my call

I think being a twat is only going to appeal to someone who doesn't really care about you. Don't lower yourself for that kind of person.

I loved the love of my life because of all her good qualities. Love can be a beautiful thing, you just have to wait a while sadly.
 
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I would stop your fucken whingeing and just suck it up. You were coming down and you wanted sympathy and her to make allowances for your pathetic emotions.
Well guess what? sympathy is in the dictionary between shit and syphalis.
Get over yourself
 
If she doesn't do drugs, cut her loose. The last thing you need on a sunny saturday afternoon when you're settling down with a refreshing glass of oral DMT and moclobemide is a lady saying she wants to go out somewhere.

Choose drugs - they're more fun :D
 
im sorry but it seems like you had it coming. i think im a bit with raas on this one, saying you turned down better girls for her is just a bit egocentrical and childish. as is blaming shit on your comedown.
we all done drugs and know generally that/how comedowns suck. but you have to take responsability for how you handle things and i think you should have stayed away from her if you knew you could get like that...

you ll fet over things though im sure. i feel for your hurt but try to see it as an opportunity for growing...
 
Great to see Shambles back, glad to see you're alive and everything.

When I was still Mental Kenny v1.0, before the software update that drastically changed the way I behave, I got called "too nice" by girls too, matter of fact, this was used as a reason for a break-up once, in the same way Shambles described.

It's funny back in high school, in my class there were 26 girls and only three blokes, myself included, some of the girls wanted to train us to be successful with women, even dragging us shopping to give us make-overs, amazingly I used to go along with it but I did say I was beta. Anyway they always used to say that I was way too gentle, kind and nice to girls and that's why I was unsuccessful. They pointed out to all the hotties in class and how they were all dating assholes that treated them like shit.

As I said until I met my black flatmate in uni and had a year-long "internship"in how to treat women, I was still engineered to be the beta nice guy.
 
I still have a hard time believing that a girl would tell a guy he was "too nice". It doesn't make sense. (But then women often don't.) 8(

im sorry but it seems like you had it coming. i think im a bit with raas on this one, saying you turned down better girls for her is just a bit egocentrical and childish.
Yeah, I was trying to ignore that, but I agree.. it sounds like you weren't that keen on her anyway, in which case she made the right decision.
 
Got dumped too yesterday, I feel for you.
Sadly mine was a bit worse than being on a comedown, my latest ex wasn't into the habits I keep & walking in (I admit I gave her a key) to a room full of shady junkies smoking Crack & cranking was a bit to much for her to deal with.

I knew at some point my two worlds would clash & I did a good job at keeping her away from my vices but sadly it all fell apart around my ears, tbh I knew it would in the end though.
 
I still have a hard time believing that a girl would tell a guy he was "too nice". It doesn't make sense. (But then women often don't.) 8(

People in general don't make sense but yeah, the "too nice" thing is a bit of a headscratcher at times :!

Thought more about this last night actually and recalled an incident that maybe goes some way to explaining what I meant? Or, more to the point, what she (generic 'she' as it applies to several) seem to have meant. The person in this case would be my ex-fiancé. We were together for ~5y altogether but the "too nice" thing cropped up a number of times along the way. She could (or would) never put into words what exactly the problem was but one particular incident speaks volumes to me...

Incident in question involved me getting into a jealous rage over an ongoing "thing" she had with some fukkin meathead. Purely down to his particular biological make-up apparently. She didn't like him. Had no interest in spending time with him (aside from fukking anyway) and made it abundantly clear to me that this was happening purely because I was "too nice" and he was hung like a donkey so she wanted his cock for curiosity value. I could even have (extremely grudgingly) accepted that, I guess. Which I think was the problem. In my mind this was a purely physical thing - and a very specific one at that. She didn't find him especially attractive but he had a 12"+cock that was "as thick as a coke can" (yes, she was very detailed in her descriptions :|). I could actually see that. Novelty. You don't see one of those very often so I can totally understand the curiosity. If she'd done it then left it I could've forgiven and forgotten... well... sort of... probably.

But that isn't all it was. Took me a while to realise that she was - in her own, frankly kinda twisted, way - crying out for help in a sense. She wanted me to stand up for myself and not accept, forgive or forget. Basically, to fight for her. Which did eventually happen when she'd been at it for a couple weeks despite the shitstorm it caused (and it did no matter how passive I'm making myself out to be). But I was kinda passive. I didn't blame her I blamed him. She was beloved to me so she got a free pass. He was a moron. A moron with a big dick. A 6'8" moron with a big dick. A muscular, 6'8"moron with a big dick. It's not that I'm a complete pussy but fuck... did she want me a dead man?!?

Apparently so. I eventually (after a couple weeks) kicked his door down and called him out in rather dramatic stylee. Got the absolute living shit kicked out of me as a result. But man was I popular for a while there. Nearly brought us back on track. Nearly. We lasted another year or so but I'm just not an aggressive fella. I take things like that personally. I blame me (and "him") but never her. I just presume I'm not good enough if she feels the need to look elsewhere. But I did get a glimpse into her psychology that night. She just wanted to be fought over. Make her feel extra special. Cos sometimes it's really not enough to say it or demonstrate it in other ways. Women can be brutal and they tend to go in for bloodsports :\

(ime, imo, ymmv, etc, etc)

Bleh. Rambling again.

As far as the OP goes, I'm also gonna agree with Raas that the attitude towards women displayed is one that frankly deserves being dumped at regular intervals. Then again, it doesn't work out so great for those of us nearer the other extreme. People - and specifically the sex that interests you - are complex beasts who make little to no sense to us sane folk :!
 
Heh, I've missed your verbosity.

Well.. one option is that it's a trend because of the sort of girls that you end up with? It does sound like in that instance she was just trying to get your attention, especially if she was telling you graphic details. (And also, I'm not certain that a 12" coke can sounds especially comfortable..)
 
I tend to agree on the comfort thing. Admittedly I have no idea how these things work but I'm sure it's... an experience 8o

To put it in context, she was... fairly experienced. She told me she stopped counting at 300 and that was long before she met me. So I'm presuming she was open to all-cummers... But yeah, novelty and freakshow value I can understand. Which is why I let it slide (sort of) initially. At least I was willing to let it slide. Such things ain't common so I kinda took it as being a bit like that thing some couples have about "allowable strayings" - usually celebrities but freakish appendages would fit the bill if one is into such things, I'm sure.

She calmed down loads when she was with me so the fact she "only" shagged him (more than once) and a couple other fellas (once) the whole time we were together was one I pretty much accepted at the time. Although, to be fair, this was during junky years and my standards were probably lower than they may otherwise be. Still, the underlying thing is the stuff about what I presume was attention-seeking. It's not like she didn't get attention and affection but no junky (she was too, mind) is really capable of the depth of emotion that may be required.

Problem with my relationship history is that I was totally out of it for most of the time so I know damn well I couldn't be all I could - or should - be. Even so, such things leave scars...

I think the "standing up for myself" has always been a big deal. I do tend to take things personally and will sit and simmer rather than kick off and make a fuss. Ultimately, I kinda suspect I've never really had the level of self-respect I look for and admire in others. Self-respect is intensely attractive to me and I presume I'm not alone in that. Sincerely doubt I've ever lived up to my own standards though so only have myself to blame really :\

Still, women, eh? 8);)<3
 
yeah the comment about not getting with other girls was immature, guess I just felt angry and betrayed.

is it normal to keep alternating between feeling 'oh, actually it's not so bad, it'll be fine' to 'might as well just end my own own life now' within like 20 minutes?
 
I had a pretty bad break up from a three year relationship this time last year and I still think I'm hurting a bit from that. It sounds lame but it took a lot of effort to get back out there and find someone else who I actually liked, again it sounds weird but I almost can't be bothered to do it again. You know what I mean? like to go through the effort of finding a girl who you get on with and trying to win them over. It's suprisingly hard work.
 
I get dumped all the time, but she always comes back.

If we didn't have children, or great sex it would be long gone. She is still my best friend (ish) though.

Current status: single

You will get back on it soon my friend, and don't waste too much time being a pussy about it ;)
 
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I had a pretty bad break up from a three year relationship this time last year and I still think I'm hurting a bit from that. It sounds lame but it took a lot of effort to get back out there and find someone else who I actually liked, again it sounds weird but I almost can't be bothered to do it again. You know what I mean? like to go through the effort of finding a girl who you get on with and trying to win them over. It's suprisingly hard work.

Know the feeling all too well. I'm still reeling from a breakup that dragged itself out over the space of a year, and I'm certainly in no state to go out chasing anything new.

Ultimately it's up to you to decide whether being in a relationship is worth the effort and the risks involved. Try being single for a bit and see what kind of people you end up meeting. Otherwise you're likely to dive headfirst into any prospective relationship in order to 'fix' the pain you're already feeling, and it very very rarely works.
 
Incident in question involved me getting into a jealous rage over an ongoing "thing" she had with some fukkin meathead. Purely down to his particular biological make-up apparently. She didn't like him. Had no interest in spending time with him (aside from fukking anyway) and made it abundantly clear to me that this was happening purely because I was "too nice" and he was hung like a donkey so she wanted his cock for curiosity value. I could even have (extremely grudgingly) accepted that, I guess. Which I think was the problem. In my mind this was a purely physical thing - and a very specific one at that. She didn't find him especially attractive but he had a 12"+cock that was "as thick as a coke can" (yes, she was very detailed in her descriptions :|). I could actually see that. Novelty. You don't see one of those very often so I can totally understand the curiosity. If she'd done it then left it I could've forgiven and forgotten... well... sort of... probably.

I'm sorry Shambles but WTF.

It doesn't matter if she wants you to fucking fight for her, if she's salivating over meathead who she doesn't find attractive just because he has a meatcock and tells this you to your face then she deserves to be set on fucking fire.

What good would she be to you anyway with a gaping chasm for a vagina?

Fuck that. You got out. Thank god. What a waste of life being with her would be.
 
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