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Phenethylamines The Big & Dandy Allylescaline Thread

Can anyone comment on how much is necessary for some nice strong visuals? I plan on testing around 1-3mg as an allergy test, then doing 30-40mg. But a few replies back it was said around 100mg is needed for nice psychedelic effects. I'd like a very visual and immersive experience.
 
JaneDoe2290 said:
Can anyone comment on how much is necessary for some nice strong visuals? I plan on testing around 1-3mg as an allergy test, then doing 30-40mg. But a few replies back it was said around 100mg is needed for nice psychedelic effects. I'd like a very visual and immersive experience.
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I'm not sure if this is the right drug if you're looking for strong visuals. It's quite pleasant and all, but not an intense experience at any reasonable dose. Better off with a couple of foot of San Pedro IMO.
 
Spiral Arm said:
I'm not sure if this is the right drug if you're looking for strong visuals. It's quite pleasant and all, but not an intense experience at any reasonable dose. Better off with a couple of foot of San Pedro IMO.
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Yeah it seems that way from the replies...But it also seems that people may be simply under dosing it. How safe does this compound feel to you guys? Any nasty cardio/vasoconstriction effects? I feel like around 120-150mg this compound may do what everyone is wanting it to do... Please note I'm not suggesting anyone dose that high just food for thought that the general dosing has been on the low side. Being a mescaline analogue and all, shouldn't it need a bit more than say 40mg? Just an assumption, I don't know shit about chemistry really.

In either case, has anyone tried this with LSD? I think that would be a particularly interesting combo.
 
JaneDoe2290 said:
Yeah it seems that way from the replies...But it also seems that people may be simply under dosing it. How safe does this compound feel to you guys? Any nasty cardio/vasoconstriction effects? I feel like around 120-150mg this compound may do what everyone is wanting it to do... Please note I'm not suggesting anyone dose that high just food for thought that the general dosing has been on the low side. Being a mescaline analogue and all, shouldn't it need a bit more than say 40mg? Just an assumption, I don't know shit about chemistry really.

In either case, has anyone tried this with LSD? I think that would be a particularly interesting combo.
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I've only tried it a handful of times, with doses from 30 to 55mg. I got pretty bad cramping and nausea with the higher doses and haven't wanted to push it any farther. I suspect that's why no one else has gone that high either.
 
Took 60mg each person with a guy friend and 2 girl friends (4 of us total)

The girls said they wished they had taken a little less. We had to leave the dubstep show because the one girl was extremely uncomfortable around people. The guy said he felt fucking amazing and was having a great time. I didn't feel very intense effects, although I had/have a tolerance for such types of drugs. They dropped me off at home where I fell asleep during the trip. They said that they had a much better time tripping amongst the three of them at their place.

Felt like a low dose of mda to me, honestly, without the intense rolling feeling. Euphoria, light stimulation, and brighter colors and (barely) some tracer effects.

Everyone said it tasted exactly like 2c-e. I wouldn't know because I never took 2c-e.

Seems to affect females more than males. But that could have just been in this one case.

Hope this information helps somebody somewhere. Cheers!

Wait.... Now that you say this I remember I did take a hit of LSD when I took my 60mg I just talked about in the last post! However I can't really say how it was because like I said I had a very light trip... Tolerance... Need to take a long break from everything and I am.

It was a good time though, just don't think the hit of acid was very strong and the allyl wasn't very strong for me in particular.

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JaneDoe2290 said:
Yeah it seems that way from the replies...But it also seems that people may be simply under dosing it. How safe does this compound feel to you guys? Any nasty cardio/vasoconstriction effects? I feel like around 120-150mg this compound may do what everyone is wanting it to do... Please note I'm not suggesting anyone dose that high just food for thought that the general dosing has been on the low side. Being a mescaline analogue and all, shouldn't it need a bit more than say 40mg? Just an assumption, I don't know shit about chemistry really.

In either case, has anyone tried this with LSD? I think that would be a particularly interesting combo.
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If you'd read the thread, you would see that people already tried high doses. Just one page back there's this post, for instance.

marsmellow said:
Okay, the consensus seems to be that about 40mg is the right dose to take of this chem. That's not the right dose. You should take more than that, unless you just want placebo effects. I took about 110mg last night and allylescaline is definitely a full-blown psychedelic, and a nice one too. Be warned though, it's very nauseating at that dose. It made me throw up.

Take at least 100mg, this thread is like a thread about LSD where people dismiss LSD because they only took 40ug.
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Also, people have tried combining it with various other psychedelics. it's in the thread.
 
Actually, if you had read the thread, you'd see I referenced the guy who dosed 100mg already. I actually said it on this very page, not even one back. Now that's gotta be embarrassing for you.
 
Anyone plugged this?
Mixed with 4-aco-dipt?
Mixed with an empathogen? (Most likely one of the PBs or MDMA)
 
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Anybody mixed AL with syrian rue? I fear MAIO complications, or serotonin syndrome with this mix.
 
Bluelight veterans: I recently experimented with 60mg of allylescaline and wrote a relatively long trip report (~2.5 pages). Is this an appropriate place to post it or should I create a new thread for the report?
 
Trip report, 60mg allylescaline

I just posted a fairly detailed trip report on an experience with 60mg allylescaline. You can read the report here.
 
i do its great im feedin my fish that right now! they are listenin to daft punk and jammin out abot 75 mgs and now im gonna give them 1 mg 25b to get them really seein crazy fractals
 
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notinmyhouse said:
i do its great im feedin my fish that right now! they are listenin to daft punk and jammin out abot 75 mgs and now im gonna give them 1 mg 25b to get them really seein crazy fractals
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We do not condone giving animals drugs (except any that they medically require and a licensed vet has suggested), and do not allow its discussion here. I assume you're more likely just doing the whole "say I'm feeding my animals drugs" to avoid self-incrimination thing - that's also against the rules here at Bluelight, doesn't protect you in any way from the law, and just makes posts confusing and silly.
 
So I did this chem a while back at 70mg and had some uncomfortable body effects (TR on page 8 if you care), but nothing awful. Now 2 people have said that doses >100mg get it to real psychedelic territory.

Well I've noticed that some drugs have a 'DO NOT WANT' zone in between two different sweet spots. For instance I like 4-AcO-DMT at 25-30mg, or 50+mg. anything between 30 and 50 is too much to be fun (get bad body load and am too fucked to do any activities), but not enough to blow my mind. Ketamine is the same IMO. I love doing little bumps of K to just throw some depth into a psych, and I love K-holing. But in between there is a realm of straight Mongdom that I think is just a waste of time. Salvia is another example IME of a drug that feels awful at low doses and yet is ineffable at breakthrough doses.

Now I'm not suggesting anyone try this, but what If we're all approaching this wrong? What if 30-50mg is the fun zone. 50-80ish mg is DNW and then past 100mg the body load becomes irrelevant next to the psychedelia. Maybe 150mg would be remarkable and we just haven't been willing to push it. It will probably be a 'Caution: Vomit Unavoidable' trip (a la Ayahuasca). But it might be worth it.
I hope someone has the strength of genitals to try this at some point. But maybe I'm just wishing pathetically for a real Mescaline analogue.
 
Soul137 said:
So I did this chem a while back at 70mg and had some uncomfortable body effects (TR on page 8 if you care), but nothing awful. Now 2 people have said that doses >100mg get it to real psychedelic territory.

Well I've noticed that some drugs have a 'DO NOT WANT' zone in between two different sweet spots. For instance I like 4-AcO-DMT at 25-30mg, or 50+mg. anything between 30 and 50 is too much to be fun (get bad body load and am too fucked to do any activities), but not enough to blow my mind. Ketamine is the same IMO. I love doing little bumps of K to just throw some depth into a psych, and I love K-holing. But in between there is a realm of straight Mongdom that I think is just a waste of time. Salvia is another example IME of a drug that feels awful at low doses and yet is ineffable at breakthrough doses.

Now I'm not suggesting anyone try this, but what If we're all approaching this wrong? What if 30-50mg is the fun zone. 50-80ish mg is DNW and then past 100mg the body load becomes irrelevant next to the psychedelia. Maybe 150mg would be remarkable and we just haven't been willing to push it. It will probably be a 'Caution: Vomit Unavoidable' trip (a la Ayahuasca). But it might be worth it.
I hope someone has the strength of genitals to try this at some point. But maybe I'm just wishing pathetically for a real Mescaline analogue.
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Based on my experience with this compound, I think it would be safe at those levels for someone with a regular sensitivity to it.
 
How did MAL Stand up to the test?
Mescaline test, i keep checking the big and dandy MAL section.
I think people are just too scared to give'r a spelunk.

I really wanna try it
AS i am one of those people who finds 100mg of AL Not that visual and no more affluent in terms of synesthesia and sound enhancement than lets say ... 35mg of 4-aco-dmt.
Which can be really awesome.
 
This compound was just placed on this list in Sweden. It does not mean it is illegal to possess, yet; as some compounds have been on this list waiting to be scheduled for 2 years (they're just overwhelmed by the new RCs and can't keep up the pace). On the other hand this means that if they can't arrest you, police and customs still may seize (...steal!) your legal goods and destroy them.
 
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