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^I know they are both mucus membranes but the intranasal bioavailability is a good bit higher than the sublingual b/a, so snorting it actually does make a big difference.
 
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^I know they are both mucus membranes but the intranasal bioavailability is a good bit higher then the subligual b/a, so snorting it actually does make a big difference.

I agree if you are comparing snorting a pill compared to using a pill sublingually because the surface area of the nose is larger and can cope with all of the fillers better. As I stated before, I think the new film taken sublingually would be absorbed just as well as snorting a pill, because the film requires much less surface area and dissolves much quicker then the pills. That is the reason they came out with the new film because it was better absorbed sublingually then the old pills were, at least that was their claim but we all know they really wanted to keep their patent and make more money for another ten years. LOL
 
u can get just as good if not better BA from using the alcohol method rather than snorting, which is stupid to do with a film obviously, and i didnt like snorting the tabs even tex.

its called sixpartseven's method i believe on here. just use the bluelight google thing in the top left.

i do it everyday... with vodka preferably. i use about 3-5 ml of the vodka. u place the strip on yur tongue and then pour the vodka in your mouth or down your tongue over the sub. either way u then let the sub dissolve under your tongue as normal, just letting your tongue sit on the bottom of your mouth. it burns for about 20 seconds, just like mouthwash. no worse.

sixpartseven has a listing of how to make up a suspension of bupe in alcohol for ease of storing and dosing. this works amazingly well for tapering.

ive been able to cut my sub dose in half because of doing this. i certainly can tell a difference.

i also rinse with hot water first, and typically brush too, if not at least brush under the tongue with hot water.

i used to IV my suboxone and subutex. no difference there... only the bupe causes the PW's. which ive had. (terrible) It doesnt get you high at all, only gives you an "almost instant glow" feeling at the very most. sometimes it can take up to 15 mins after the IV for the person to even feel anything. no rush.

bupe does not get u high. if it did, u could just take a little more. its a complicated semi-opioid.
 
When I was on o subs for 3 years+ (been off for over a year). I took 8mg oral as my ROA. Felt itchy (which i like), warm and fuzzy within 1-2hr. Smoked some dank weed and was high all night nodding the fuck out. Lasting into the next day. I always found taking them oral was best for 2 reasons. A) I got high off the shit and B) I could make a 8mg pill keep WD's away for 2-3 days. So my scripts piled up since I didn't use it 2-3 times a day as prescribed. Also allowed me to help get other friends off dope who couldn't afford subs.

Also even if it tasted like an orange, I couldn't stick on the tongue without gagging. The thought of snorting them makes sick thinking about it.

Smoke some good weed with them. One of my fav combos. I keep subs on hand for those times when I really wanna get nodded out and can't cop or afford real opiates.
 
The only difference between sublingual and snorted bupe would be the bioavailability, ie you need less snorted to equal the same dose sublingual. If it doesn't get you high under your tongue it's not gonna get you high snorted.
Your post completely contradicts itself.

As for the OP you may need to give us more information on what kind of Suboxone you get. Do you get the pill or the lozenge? What is your prescribed dose? Do you get a good high from putting it under your tongue?
 
Your post completely contradicts itself.

As for the OP you may need to give us more information on what kind of Suboxone you get. Do you get the pill or the lozenge? What is your prescribed dose? Do you get a good high from putting it under your tongue?

I take 8mg daily(pills). I briefly had a look g
Here n saw all these comment. Thank you. I'm reducing off sub in Dex but while I'm on it would like to get high off it once. So i can feel ace again n not feel any negative stuff.

Evey xxx
 
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the reason for taking subs is to keep you from getting high well part of the reason.
 
Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the reason for taking subs is to keep you from getting high well part of the reason.

Yes. I was in relapse mode when I made this thread. I want to get high once before I give it all up for good. I'm going to 6mg in December. It's made some bad choices this year will be glad to see the back of it. Feel like everything's spinning out of control n I'm powerless to stop it. Time to admit defeat I'm a weak person :(
 
I snorted my suboxone once and it did fuck all for me besides burning my sinuses, I wasted a dose. I've also tried shooting it, and though it didn't precip WDs, it didn't really give me much either compared to taking it the normal way. Injecting it sure as hell was inferior to subutex. I know everyone's all like "BA this and in theory that", but in terms of personal experience as a long term (8 years plus) bupe user, I see no advantage to snorting it.

Same here.

I'm surprised to hear that everyone has such a bad time with sniffing subs. I was on them for about 2 years and the only time I didn't sniff them was during the first week when I had to take my dose at the clinic. 4mgs up my nose would hold me for the day while it took 8mgs sublingually. They didn't seem to mess with my sinuses any more so than my usual opiates(oxymorphone/codone & morphine)

If you're using it for maintenance and it's in your system all the time due to it I think it's hard to feel a difference between the intranasal and sublingual ROAs. Here is my analogy; If an alcoholic drinks beers everyday and is constantly drunk, substituting a glass of wine (large enough for it to be equal to a little more than a beer) in place of a beer isn't going to make a difference to him, and he probably wouldn't be able to notice anything if the wine was masked with the taste of beer or something.

I take 8mg daily(pills). I briefly had a look g
Here n saw all these comment. Thank you. I'm reducing off sub in Dex but while I'm on it would like to get high off it once. So i can feel ace again n not feel any negative stuff.

Evey xxx

IME the only way to get an alright high from suboxone is to take 2-3 days off (or however long it takes to be in decent withdrawals). The ROA has little to do with it at that point since it's not that much higher when sniffing it compared to oral, so it's not worth the hassle especially due to its ceiling dose. My tolerance is too high to get high from suboxone, but the best buzz' I have felt came when I took 2mg sublingually, and then another 2mg sublingually every 4-6 hours, maxing out at 6mg. I stopped at that dose because IME I didn't feel any additional positive effects when I dosed above 6mg. I tried that experiment a few times, and each time the first 3 2mg pieces got me a buzz, but the 4th didn't do anything. That seems to be pretty common among suboxone users.

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the reason for taking subs is to keep you from getting high well part of the reason.

While I agree with you, I would still rather a person try to abuse their suboxone once in a while rather than going back to shooting dope or something. Having said that, the OP was prescribed it for a codeine addiction which is pretty shocking considering how much more potent bupe is than codeine, and how much worse the WD's may be probably even with a proper taper.

1mg of suboxone = 400mg of codeine, although the ceiling dose of suboxone makes most of the 'positive' feelings stop increasing after 6mg, which in theory is like 2400mg of codeine. It may be hard to believe since a lot of people gradually work up to doses of 6-8mg of suboxone unless they had big habits (like 250mg of oxycodone or 4 bags of heroin a day), and since suboxones long half-life has it in your system all the time it raises your tolerance a lot more than you realize. I found this out after trying to get high a few months after stopping suboxone. 60mg of oxycodone had me feeling alright the first time I took it after 3 months off suboxone, but after that I needed 90mg of it to feel an alright high. With morphine I was able to take 200mg easily, and 300mg had me nodding but I could handle it alright.

I mostly agree with that chart since it has 1mg suboxone (referred to as buprenorphine on the chart) = to 20-25mg of oxycodone, which seems accurate IMO. However, as the ceiling dose implies it's not like 16mg of suboxone would be equal to 320-400mg of oxycodone. If the ceiling is more like 6mg then that would be like 120-150mg of oxycodone which I once again find to be accurate.

Yes. I was in relapse mode when I made this thread. I want to get high once before I give it all up for good. I'm going to 6mg in December. It's made some bad choices this year will be glad to see the back of it. Feel like everything's spinning out of control n I'm powerless to stop it. Time to admit defeat I'm a weak person :(

Read up on peoples process tapering off of suboxone before you do it. A lot of people find it relatively easy until they get below 2mg, so if you want to shorten the amount of time on suboxone which may make the final withdrawal a little easier than you may want to consider dropping down to 2mg quicker, and then taking the remainder of the taper very slow.

If you were to take a few days off of suboxone and wait until you are a little sick then 4mg should definitely hold you, and that would give you a head-start on things. Of course I'm no doctor and am just going by my personal experience as well as those that I have read on here, which in some cases may be more than some doctors know about it.
 
Yes, it can be pretty bad but if you do a taper correctly it's not very painful at all. Like tommyboy said, the hardest pat is going down from 2mg to nothing, you need to dothat very slowly and not jump off completely til you're only taking like .125mg a day. That has been my experience at least- after a week or so of only taking .125mg i was able towake up one dayand just not need any at all. Best of luck to you
 
Yes, it can be pretty bad but if you do a taper correctly it's not very painful at all. Like tommyboy said, the hardest pat is going down from 2mg to nothing, you need to dothat very slowly and not jump off completely til you're only taking like .125mg a day. That has been my experience at least- after a week or so of only taking .125mg i was able towake up one dayand just not need any at all. Best of luck to you

Thank you for advice. I'm not sure they have pills lower than 2mg here but hopefully they do. I'm also going to reduce my antidepressants (citralopran). Im going to start taking 20 instead 40 so please wish me luck lol xxx
 
^You can take a 2mg pill, crush it up and then divide it into 4 or 8 piles. This leaves you with 4 .5mg doses or 8 .25mg doses, you can just put the powder under your tongue like you would a pill. IME sub doctors seem to think you only need to taper down to 2mgs, 1mg if you're lucky. You really want to get down to less than .5mgs, I jumped off at 4mgs and it was pretty terrible.
 
Yes, I have read repeatedly on BL that the proper way to taper with suboxone requires you to use a razor blade, if a pill or scissors/knife if its strips to get your doses down to proper levels. It's something that doctors won't tell you, but from users experiences, it's alot easier to taper off suboxone splitting up your 2mg doses, usually that's as small as they distribute sub/bupe for addiction purposes
 
If dealing with the 8 mg tablets, razor blades are good until you reach doses <1mg. At this point there is no way you are cutting the tablet up and getting accurate doses, which is imperative when tapering off a medication. 2 mg you can probably be pretty accurate to ~.25 mg, but a lot of times those are not an option for people(getting off the street or Dr is not aware you are tapering off). I've never dealt with strips, but I would think it is a lot easier than with tablets to measure accurate doses when cutting with a razor blade. Particularly the older tablets which were very friable. The newer generic Amneal Pharm pills are a bit easier to cut and remain in form.

A liquid taper is the only reasonable way to taper down under 1 mg with the 8 mg tablets. Just mix 1x-8mg pill with 40 CC of water. Now you can get .2 mg for every CC. <-----Just an example of how to use the liquid method to get low doses.
 
Hiya,

How do I go about snorting my suboxone instead of sticking it under the tongue? And will it give me a good high?
When i used to buy the codeine i wish i'd got the dihydrocodeine tabs as the were selling 120mg tabs. Anyone do dhc here could tell me what it was like for?

Evey

Give up the hungry ghost. Best advice anyone here can give you.
 
I'll just jump from 2 mg. i'm partially sighted n that sounds like a lot of effert. Thanks for advice x

Ooh, that might be difficult. Then again, i don't know much about lour level of dependence. Since you have difficulties with your vision, is there any friend or family member who could help you split up doses?
 
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It would bea good idea to take the advice about splitting your sub dose to slow taper. If you couldnt handle coming off codeine then sub withdrawal will come as a real nasty shock.
Im prescribed dihydrocodeine (30mg ir, and a large amount) and its a great painkiller, very similar to codeine but a little stronger.
Dihydrocodeine doesnt work as quickly as codeine ime but where codeine runs out of legs a couple of hours in, dihydrocodeine develops into a nice mellow morphine-like buzz.
DHC however, is really addictive, imo much more then codeine; with your history of codeine abuse it would be a bad route for you.
I also like to write poetry and one of my only regrets over drug use is that it destroys my inspiration to write.
 
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