people mix valium with stims?
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The Benzodiazepine Thread v. IV
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people mix valium with stims?
justsayknow
Bluelighter
Yeh they do. Usually for the come down but its good to negate a lot of the negative effects of stimulants through out the experience.
If I had unlimited amounts I would do it often.
If I had unlimited amounts I would do it often.
indybreaker
Bluelighter
So just came back from the Dr, and it seems as tho whenever Im asking there help these days (rather then for addiction) they give ridiculous scripts. ive been given 2mg Rivtoril(clonazepam) qty 200 with 3 repeats.....WTF??before anyone says be careful, my head and mind are the strongest they've ever been since quitting Xanax ( I recently last week got a script for Xanax because she was not 'authorised' to give me rivotril to which I through in the bin. At least this saves me a long supply for those off occasions when my RLS is too much.
WTF?! indeed!!!
Damn, that's a huge amount to dish out. Does your doc want you to become addicted to clonaz?
Even without the repeats, that's a crazy amount. It's good to hear that you are in a strong state of mind...
but..
I can't help myself....
BE CAREFUL!!!!
Having that much clonaz around would be a guaranteed disaster for me. It's good that you know the territory and thus understand how dire things can get, but even then.... benzos are so insidious. So hard not to take them if they're around....
Captain Brewster
Bluelight Crew
Heh, I thought they'd stopped dishing them out like skittles. Well at least the heavy hitters like clonaz and xanax.
My docs had enough, no more benzos. Only ADs ie. avanza. Couldn't even compromise a small oxazepam script. I think there's just some surgerys that won't have a bar of them, even in, what I call, an extreme emergency.
It's redicoulous. I wish I could be as ignorant as my doc. Then I probably wouldn't have to visit them.
@indybreaker don't forget about the longer half life, as compared with Xanax. And be safe.
My docs had enough, no more benzos. Only ADs ie. avanza. Couldn't even compromise a small oxazepam script. I think there's just some surgerys that won't have a bar of them, even in, what I call, an extreme emergency.
It's redicoulous. I wish I could be as ignorant as my doc. Then I probably wouldn't have to visit them.
@indybreaker don't forget about the longer half life, as compared with Xanax. And be safe.
indybreaker
Bluelighter
thanks for all the kind support. yes I will still be strong, that 3 weeks coming cold turkey off Xanax, 2 anti pycotics, 1 anti depressant, smack, and codeiene has given myself a lot of self power and worth now and there is now way I would ever dive into the path of weakness again. Im glad I did what I did because its made me the stronger person I am today. I know right? what stupid amounts to be given out , haven't even opened them and wont until a restless night as clonaz has no rec value to me whatsoever. Now could you guys tell me the life (not half life) expiry date roughly? As I have 2x 100 bottles that wont be going down anytime soon, best palce to store them? etc. like ive said many times in my posts whoever is suffering from a benzo detox or wants to get off them, I am more then happy to provide my views and ways I handle it. Im not a spiritual person, I Didn't meditate , I just focused on looking at 'coming down' through a whole different way. never in my 3 weeks of hell did I ever crave a hit of something. please PM any questions, or want to hear experiences etc. 
laugh
Ex-Bluelighter
The money that could be made by dealers if only someone out there would import a massive amount of Alprazolam into Australia
there must be a heel of a lot gets knocked off from pharmacies, when i was living in Sydney it was easier to get on the street than via a GP.
Nothing fucked me (and i mean in a negative sense) up more quicker than going up on the crystal and forcing comedown with alpraz, temaze, diaz, particularly alpraz. It is such a hard game to play with your body and mind and totally unsustainable.
Yeah, hopefully lots more people knock heaps off from pharmacies before February next year
So there is a supply to last a long, long, long, time
Captain Brewster
Bluelight Crew
Usually mentions on the bottle, something like a 'cool dark place'.
Put them in a cupboard, that you don't open frequently, that's not near an oven/fireplace etc.
They'll last for years, expirations probably around 2015? But I know from experience they work past that date too, if kept correctly.
lovepsychadelics
Bluelighter
If you want to store them for ages put them in the fridge. This stops the oxidization process which is what breaks down the drugs rendering them inert. Stored in a cool cupboard in their sealed packaging/bottle they should last 4-5 years past the used by date with fairly little reduction in the potency of the drug. If they are stored incorrectly they will degrade far more rapidly.
Captain Brewster
Bluelight Crew
^ ha, dang! I forgot about the fridge.
Fridge is perfect, just keep moisture out of the container.
I noticed a drop in potency from leaving stuff in my car at high temps for a prolonged time. Forgot they were there for a year or so.
Fridge is perfect, just keep moisture out of the container.
I noticed a drop in potency from leaving stuff in my car at high temps for a prolonged time. Forgot they were there for a year or so.
indybreaker
Bluelighter
fridge it is then ladies and gents....now if only drone was still around and life would be bliss(Ive already helped out people far worse then me with clonaz that suffer from things like epilepsy and RLS so technically one bottle has been opened. but 590 to go ahhah.....sorry for the tease guys!
indybreaker
Bluelighter
Just a quik one , I hear a lot about etizolam whats your experience with it? im a guy that needs at least 60 mg for a valium buzz but not looking forward it just curious. also for bromazapam experiences?
Etizolam is very good, IME. It has some power to it - I mean you can feel it body and mind - but it isn't stupifying.
Also, it doesn't mess with your REM sleep as much as other benzos (or other thienodiazepines like etiz), so you can wind down in the evening with some and then have a decent sleep which isn't too corrupted.
Never tried bromazepam, but was lucky enough recently to try flubromazepam. A mate had some. Apparently it's quite pricey.
14mg was very pleasant. In fact, it was probably the only benzo I've taken and enjoyed for itself. Usually I don't enjoy benzos, I just appreciate them for their functionality. "Flubro" had a pretty long duration of effect, which once peaked seemed to stay at its peak for hours. It took a good two hours to get going, however.
Also, it doesn't mess with your REM sleep as much as other benzos (or other thienodiazepines like etiz), so you can wind down in the evening with some and then have a decent sleep which isn't too corrupted.
Never tried bromazepam, but was lucky enough recently to try flubromazepam. A mate had some. Apparently it's quite pricey.
14mg was very pleasant. In fact, it was probably the only benzo I've taken and enjoyed for itself. Usually I don't enjoy benzos, I just appreciate them for their functionality. "Flubro" had a pretty long duration of effect, which once peaked seemed to stay at its peak for hours. It took a good two hours to get going, however.
lovepsychadelics
Bluelighter
Etizolam is my favorite benzo. Supper chilled as it has a very potent anti-anxiety effect 1 mg etizolam is roughly 6 times the potency of diazepam. However you will find 2mg or 3 mg enough when using etizolam for the first few times even with a benzo tolerance. Etizolam has a 4 hour half life and is metabolized into another benzo which has a similar half life so your looking 8-12 hours of effect from etizolam.
Bromazapam needs around 12 mg (2 x 6 mg tablets) for hypnotic effect. Half life is almost as long as diazepam as bromaz metabolizes into another benzo invivo and it's half life is also quite long. Diclazepam has a strength 10x greater than diazepam and it's active metabolite is Delorazepam if Diclazepam undergos N-demethylation during metabolism. Delorazepam has a 72 hour half life.
Bromazapam needs around 12 mg (2 x 6 mg tablets) for hypnotic effect. Half life is almost as long as diazepam as bromaz metabolizes into another benzo invivo and it's half life is also quite long. Diclazepam has a strength 10x greater than diazepam and it's active metabolite is Delorazepam if Diclazepam undergos N-demethylation during metabolism. Delorazepam has a 72 hour half life.
fleabag73
Greenlighter
Totally understand, stateside where I live anyway, xanax has apparently turned into the new OC, it's bullshit, but they hand out ativan like it's nothing, same with klonopin, a benzo is a benzo, they just work a little differently, it would appear to be that xanax has become another fucking scapegoat, I'm a big fan of old school meds, they just work better IMO. I've been going the RC route and etizolam seems to work alot like xanax does, just food for thought, hope i didn't break any rules by saying that, if I did, I apologize in advance.
fleabag73
Greenlighter
@Indybreaker I use it regularly, and it's effects are much like .5mg xanax, I enjoy the hell outta it.
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Christ!
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It's good. I've managed to have it on hand and not get addicted to it, others might struggle though. It's like a short acting Valium for me. I get the pure powder and turn it into a liquid for easy dosing with PG.
I get it in these little glass vials. I like the fact it's so professional with the MSD sheet.
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