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The EADD Linux Technical Gibberings Thread

Would still need to install it as Vista is what's currently installed. I can't imagine why ;)<3

Will plod and potter a bit longer but if it's gotta be Windoze then so be it. I really don't see why it needs to be though. My money's on me being a mong and just not doing summat insanely obvious 8)
 
knock said:
Ha!

http://cerescp.sourceforge.net/

Couldn't find any shambolic software :(

XP should be fine to get the phone software going if necessary, and if you can hold your nose for a bit!
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I approve of this imagery :
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Fuck fuck fuck! Vista will be fine too :p I'm sure I had problems with my old samsung but I don't think it even had bluetooth, so might work with a bit of perseverance. Bluetooth should just be fucking bluetooth and compatible across the board but some phone manufacturers have ways of making things just not quite right.
 
This is what I thought, Knock. Surely it's a Blootoof thing not a Windoze/LiKnocks kinda deal. Just seems odd that both pooter and phone claim to be on speaking terms but can't commit to sharing owt. Seems like there must be summat very simple I've overlooked. And no doubt is. But will persevere. Have not actually logged into Vista since I got this 'ere pooter so might encourage me to sally forth. Who knows - I might even like it over there 8o
 
I'm pretty sure you can access the same files in both Linux and Windows, so you could hop between them as necessary, or as desired.
 
Bloody hell this is boring. Have they exchanged a passcode, Shambles? 4 digit thing isn't it? I seem to remember having some kind of bullshit non-recognition of onboard blutetooth when I first installed Ubuntu but can't remember any specifics. Maybe it's that. Maybe you should just give up and find someone who you can post the bloody phone to, or failing that get whatever you're trying to transfer in a hex editor and dictate it down the telephone like everyone else.
 
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knock said:
Got to say I've been loving xbmc more and more since I set it up. It handles absolutely any video I throw at it, picture and sound are excellent. I get free live (and time-shifted) TV over the internet with TV Catch Up. 4OD, iPlayer and al-Jazeera work beautifully (had to find iPlayer as a separate add-on, not in the repository, but it's available and works great). Loads of other add-ons, there's even a forum add on compatible with vBulletin so I can access BL on it. Nice wireless remote that runs from phone or tablet. Can also use it for games with a bit of tweaking.
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Yep, I've been using xbmc since I chipped my original xbox about 8 years ago, when xbmc only ran on xbox! Can't believe how far the project has come. It's literally the only way I watch TV in this house with no working aerial, just use the TV Catchup app and all the on demand plugins, like you say you have to hunt around for them. I've got my big old media centre pc connected to a projector in the living room, running ubuntu but booting straight into the xbmc front end. On the bedroom tv I have a Raspberry Pi vesa mounted to the back of it, running openelec's xbmc, connected to the usb port on the tv so it starts as soon as I turn on the telly and is controlled by the tv remote using CEC> Have homeplugs to pipe the video and audio files on my NAS box to these devices, it's great!

Have a friend who runs emulators through it but I've not done this since the original xbox days, so no idea what thats like these days.
 
and they said raspberry pi's would open a world of innovation - what do people do?

use it to watch eastenders.
 
if only :)

Try crunchbang if you haven't already, it's Debian preconfigured with a very lightweight, nicely customised Openbox setup. I'm using it now, it's great.
 
Firstly, I'm an idiot. Have managed to bugger me Ubuntu in a stimhaze over the weekend (again :!). Stimhaze now cleared but now have to try to fix whatever it is I've done :|

How buggered it is I have no idea. Wasn't looking good at all yesterday - coudln't even log in - but have made some headway today. Most stuff is still out of reach but managed to log in and just now found a way to get Firefox running. Could really do with a lil (actually probably a lot) of techytips. Although am so fukkin useless with techy stuff I'm not even sure I'll be able to properly explain the situation. Any and all assistance would be very much appreciated cos have no fukkin clue wot to do other than maybe to download a fresh copy of Ubuntu (or some other distro) and reinstall. Would obviously rather not lose all my files but not like it'd be the first time :\

Righty, brief precis of the situation is that I got rather fukked on 2-FMA over the weekend and had a bit of a potter about trying to prettify and customise and generally faff about with my setup cos haven't bothered to do any of that since I got this pooter. Of course the haze of stims meant I got a bit carried away and lost whilst installing and removing what can only be described as a shitload of assorted software. I barely remember what most of the changes were but was a lot and done totally carelessly without any real checking of what was going on. Eyes tend to be bigger than belly when browsing potential installs when all stimmed up. Considerably bigger :\

Anyway, the long and the short of it is that I've clearly managed to break probably several rather vital bits somewhere along the way and don't know how to fix it. Can't find any obviously broken packages on Synaptic or Aptitude (those being the only package managers I've been able to get back into so far) so dunno if it's that or summat else I've broken.

I also installed a variety of desktop environments to play with but none of 'em were working last night when it went tits up other than when I logged in via IceWM. Couldn't get Firefox or any other web browser working on that but tried to reinstall Gnome, Xfce and Cinnamon cos am most familiar with those ones and now I can't log in to any of 'em properly (nor any of the others installed). I actually don't know which environment I'm on now cos had to log in from Terminal cos I kept getting an error message - summat to do with xset but can't remember the exact wording. Obviously. Eventually got onto a graphical desktop using command 'startx' but all I seem to have access to is Nautilus and Terminal. Got no menus or panels anywhere and buggered if I know how to get 'em up again.

The thing that I am pretty certain is broken is summat to do with permissions (I think) cos another error message I keep getting is stuff about ICE authority... but of course I can't recall the exact wording. I really should write this shit down. It's a very common error message (for me anyway :!) and I know I've fixed it before but was ages ago and buggered if I can recall how now. And I'm not sure if that still applies cos I've gotten this far and usually it comes up when trying (and failing) to log in via Terminal (cos graphical login won't let me in... well... one of 'em did but it got replaced by the current one (think it's called lxdm (?)) when I reinstalled stuff earlier.

Bugger. Am but rambling cos I just don't know how to explain the problem properly. Am hoping one of you more techy types can get a better idea of the situation with the application of techy stuff I have little to no idea about cos don't know wot to ask. Not even sure what to look for in the Ubuntu forums cos don't know exactly what I've done. But basically, I can't log in at all at the moment other than typing "startx" into Terminal (I'm sure that's a deeply shitty way of doing it but I really don't know where else to start :\) and even then I have very limited functionality. Fingers firmly crossed one of y'all has an idea or two cos (as you can probably tell) am a bit lost :!
 
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Ooops! Yeah startx isn't the most convenient way to get into a desktop environment. I think we can have a go at sorting this though.


When you start the computer, does it boot all the way to a login window with the list of available desktop environments? (this is the "display manager"). Is it upon putting your username and password in here that you get the xset error? Or is the display manager not starting - is it booting to a console login window? I'm thinking it's probably the latter but please can you confirm, cos it'll be one set of troubleshooting steps if the DM is not starting and another if it is starting and the xset error happens when you try to login.
 
Learnt today how to subvert privilege separation, by writing a C wrapper round a command that needs to be run as root and making it setuid.

Of course, you need to be root to do chmod +s on the file in the first place. But it's possibly slightly safer than sudo, because you can only run whatever is coded into the C program.

Also, writing C makes me feel like a proper 1337 h4xx0r chick.
 
You could also just do a chmod +s on the actual command you want run as root :) maybe take a copy of it if you want it to be a "secret".

Reckon sudo is pretty safe if it's configured correctly; you can tie it down to specific executables for specific users/groups too. The way it ships in ubuntu, for instance, is wide open but that's just their very unrestrictive default settings.

But if it gets you writing C, more power to you! One of the reasons I have failed to become a 1337 h4xx0r is I almost always find a way to do what I want without resorting to C...
 
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knock said:
Ooops! Yeah startx isn't the most convenient way to get into a desktop environment. I think we can have a go at sorting this though.


When you start the computer, does it boot all the way to a login window with the list of available desktop environments? (this is the "display manager"). Is it upon putting your username and password in here that you get the xset error? Or is the display manager not starting - is it booting to a console login window? I'm thinking it's probably the latter but please can you confirm, cos it'll be one set of troubleshooting steps if the DM is not starting and another if it is starting and the xset error happens when you try to login.
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I actually haven't logged out or switched pooter off since I finally got in yesterday but last time I did it booted up to the display manager. I'm not 100% sure which one it is due to all the fuckabout with desktop environments but it's defintely not gdm. I'm fairly sure it's lxdm. But whatever it is it doesn't work. If I just click on my name (the default) then it switches to a screen with just the background wallpaper image and nothing else for a moment, then goes to a black Terminal-type display which flashes by pretty quick but says something about Apache 2 not being able to fully resolve the domain name and something (in red no less) about a speech programme not being present (can't recall the exact title cos it goes by quickly). Then back to the display manager. Earlier on in my attempts I could get onto a desktop if I manually typed in my username without the capital at the beginning (the default is capitalised). I'm not sure how relevant that is though cos it no longer works and the same thing happens as when I just click the default. Basically, nothing.

What I actually did to get in was to switch to one of the other displays using the Fn keys and login using my normal (non-capitalised) username and password. Then use 'startx' to get to the semi-desktop I currently have. As I say, on this semi-desktop I basically only have access to Nautilus (cos there are a coupla folders on it I can get into) and Terminal (using CTRL-ALT-T) from which I'm running Firefox. Presumably I could also access other software through Terminal (if I knew the command to start it) but is obviously not a great situation.

The xset message was something that came up regularly when I was initially (incredibly feebly) trying to see wha' g'wan through Terminal. Was exhausted yesterday and semi-braindead recovering from stimhaze so actually can't recall specifically what it was coming up for. Am assuming that by starting X it is now set but may well be entirely wrong in that assumption :D

Somewhat self-evidently, command line is not exactly my forte. Just don't need it for what I use me pooter for. Would like to learn enough to be able to do at least a few basic things though cos at the moment it's a rather tortuous process of trying to find a man page for stuff and trial and error... considerably more of the latter than the former. Some man pages are very useful but lots are just plain confusing for the likes of me :!

I'm sure it's eminently solvable but given the sheer quantity of more or less random changes it's likely to be a bit of a mess in there :!

PS: Of some relevance is that this display manager only offers a choice of desktops after you put in your username. You have to click or type that then it switches to ask for password and offers choice of desktops. However, I'm not getting that screen cos is just reverting back to login username screen after moment of excitement thinking it may work this time. Last I looked, my account had been set to logging in automatically without a password. Not sure how that happened cos isn't how it was set up before. Can only presume I changed summat whilst faffing. Dunno how to access account info from Terminal though so can't check that is still the case.
 
Shambles said:
I'm sure it's eminently solvable but given the sheer quantity of more or less random changes it's likely to be a bit of a mess in there :!
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This is my problem with Linux, I like to tinker. It's also the reason I do fresh installs quite frequently.
 
Hehe. Yeah, I was always a tinkerer. It's when I'm on certain stims I tend to get drawn in to pottering about for hours on end in a bit of a daze. I love the fact that it's all so customisable. Have had it set up sooooooooooo sweet sometimes. But then I've always managed to screw it up at some point and had to reinstall. As such, I've tried a gazillion different distros - often had two or three set up on different partitions to play with. It's another thing I love about Linux - the sheer variety. There really is a distro for every lil niche you can imagine and then some.

My current pooter was nicely setup for me by somebody considerably more techinically proficient than I... not that that narrows it down much cos that applies to pretty much everybody. I suspect the technically proficient setter upperer may be somewhere in the vicinity of this thread though :sus:

At worst I'll obviously have to reinstall and start from scratch. Would be great if that weren't necessary though. Don't think it will be but am very much gonna have to rely on the kindness of a techy-type or two to walk me through it. Really do need to learn a bit for myself. Anyone know of a good beginner's guide to using command line? Found a great one a couple years back but long since forgotten what it was called. I do kinda pick bits up as I go along but as I so rarely use Terminal that's a very slow process and I tend to just forget stuff as I don't use it often enough :\
 
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