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Lysergamides The Big & Dandy LSZ Thread

After reading all these treads about AL-LAD & LSZ;
It seems that mixing Al-Lad and LSZ together would give you the LSD effects most are familiar with..
patiently waiting for that report to come out.
Cheers
 
LSZ is orally active so it is not 25C-NBOMe.

I would be wary of starting with two tabs (300ug) unless you're down for a rather powerful experience.
250ug of AL-LAD, whose potency is comparable, was way more intense than I wanted for the festival setting I was in.
 
i kind of doubt that mixing lsz with allad would "add up" to an lsd experience. it is very rare that chemicas interact in such a simple fashion.
i would still advise anyone trying to combine them to start with lowered dosages of both.

wonder how long it would last though. :)
or the triple combo (with lsd on top) :)
 
am I the only one who found AL-LAD extremely close to acid by itself? don't know why you would need to add anything to it to make it more lsd-like.
 
I retract my previous statements - people have sent me more chromatograms that do indeed look like LSZ. So maybe there are ballsy RC salespeople, another Pickard maybe, somewhere out there....

That above MS is not that of 25C-NBOME. [ref]
 
sekio said:
I retract my previous statements - people have sent me more chromatograms that do indeed look like LSZ. So maybe there are ballsy RC salespeople, another Pickard maybe, somewhere out there....

That above MS is not that of 25C-NBOME. [ref]
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Good to know. Thanks.
 
Hell yeah, thanks for the heads up Sekio.

I can't fucking wait for my LSZ to get here. I'm gonna have to hit up the AL-LAD soon too before it's gone.
 
Some people are claiming there is bad nausea, while others are claiming there is none whatsoever. I know everyone's different but that just doesn't make much sense to me. I honestly think some of this may have been some type of Phen. As far as being orally active goes, most people keep blotters in their mouth for 20 minutes or more so I wouldn't be surprised if it was just 25C, it can produce bad nausea. I think there is real LSZ going around, (hence the good nausea free reports) but I also strongly believe that some of these LSZ printed bloters have been 100% bunk. Just my 2 cents
 
Wayne C said:
Some people are claiming there is bad nausea, while others are claiming there is none whatsoever. I know everyone's different but that just doesn't make much sense to me. I honestly think some of this may have been some type of Phen. As far as being orally active goes, most people keep blotters in their mouth for 20 minutes or more so I wouldn't be surprised if it was just 25C, it can produce bad nausea. I think there is real LSZ going around, (hence the good nausea free reports) but I also strongly believe that some of these LSZ printed bloters have been 100% bunk. Just my 2 cents
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The stuff I got was real LSZ, no doubt about that. It's tasteless, orally active and lasts 8-10 hours. No noticeable stimulation, so it's not a DOC type psychedelic amphetamine. It apparently just effects people differently, causing nausea in some and none in others. People who bought from the same vendor as me didn't get nausea. I'm actually one of the few who have reported nausea. I get nausea from all psychs really, sometimes even LSD. I'm also the only one who reported tremors from AL-LAD, again from the same vendor as others used who had no tremors.
 
Wayne C said:
Some people are claiming there is bad nausea, while others are claiming there is none whatsoever. I know everyone's different but that just doesn't make much sense to me. I honestly think some of this may have been some type of Phen. As far as being orally active goes, most people keep blotters in their mouth for 20 minutes or more so I wouldn't be surprised if it was just 25C, it can produce bad nausea. I think there is real LSZ going around, (hence the good nausea free reports) but I also strongly believe that some of these LSZ printed bloters have been 100% bunk. Just my 2 cents
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No, that report was fairly isolated and it's to be expected because some people react sensitively to all psychedelics concerning the GI. Why someone who is prone to GI issues would order 100 blotters of a psychedelic they hadn't tried yet is beyond me, though...
 
Yeah, I had some GI issues on 225ug, but nothing untoward. No nausea was noted with low or staggered dosing.

This is definitely NOT some dodgy NBOMe or whatever. I swallowed straight away & had the same effects from buccal dosing!
 
I took about 400ug of LSZ at Shambhala music festival this year..
Product i ordered myself,
With 140mg of 5-apb and oh my god, that had to have been one of the most viscerally enthralling and highly sustainably visual and complex trip i'd ever been on.

I actually wished i was indoors. I cannot even begin to communicate the divinely intricate hallucinations and feelings i had thrust upon me.

When i say, complete and total, ego death. I mean, i was a Levitating ball of energy who floated from place to place.
I could see into peoples minds and feel their happiness.
Communication was hard. I could not speak. But then again i'm fairly certain i was speaking using only my mind.
To other telepaths//empaths who were there.

No substance or combination of substances has even been able to shy as remotely close as that combo.
*tips imaginary hat*

That is an Epic Combo. and here i thought i was the only one.
 
IamMe90 said:
No, that report was fairly isolated and it's to be expected because some people react sensitively to all psychedelics concerning the GI. Why someone who is prone to GI issues would order 100 blotters of a psychedelic they hadn't tried yet is beyond me, though...
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Because there's nothing else to buy for psychs that doesn't cause nausea anyway, and it turned out I made the right move because LSZ is the only psych RC that doesn't cause tremors. So you see, I won by getting rid of one of the worst effects of RC psychs, the tremors. With only nausea to deal with, I can simply use diphenhydramine with it. In fact, I'll also take some Motherwort tincture to prevent vasoconstriction and other adrenergic effects. Getting high on psychs isn't as simple as swallowing a hit. You have to take the proper "cocktail", in this case the Motherwort/Diphenhydramine/LSZ cocktail.
 
Tried this at about 225ug. Mostly like LSD, not sure i could tell the difference... maybe clearer head? Less jitters.. Same color enhancement and feel as LSD but with less body load possibly. Feels like its on the "same frequency" as LSD, where AL-LAD is tuned off a bit... (which for now makes it the more interesting one for me just because its novel).
 
It seems pertinent to point out that the GI discomfort and nausea on these could be related to 5HT3 agonism. In which case, a small dose of ondansetron would be the logical pharmacological answer. Easier to find 5ht3 antagonists are Mirtazapine, or also Trazodone in US, which have a lot of other effects as well which may affect the action of the first compound. Tremors should be fairly easy to fix with Clonazepam small dose. Can't wait to try or hear reports of 150mics of LSZ combined with 150mics AL-LAD.
 
LSZ is a fucking amazing substance, that's all there is to it.

I took 300ug and it was great - I felt physically wonderful, no side effects at all, music sounded awesome, but the trip was JUST verging on where I really wanted to go. So I topped it off at the peak with 100ug of 25c nasally - and OH MY GOD, this was one of the most fucking orgasmically amazing trips I've ever had. EXTREME O and CEVs, INCREDIBLE, I mean I really can't stress enough, INCREDIBLE music enhancement, everything sounded out of this fucking world. I had zero side effects. No GI discomfort, no uncomfortable tension, nothing.

LSZ is one of the cleanest drugs I've ever taken, possibly the cleanest. It's cleaner than good old L itself.

I've ordered 10 more blotters, and I also ordered 10 AL-LAD blotters because I'm extremely interested in that chemical as well.

By the way, the duration was about in line with that of LSD.

Everyone, get ahold of as much of this drug as your finances permit while it's still around. It's a fucking winner. It may just be the best psychedelic drug I've ever taken. I plan to take 450ug next time as I felt it could have easily been taken much higher.
 
Don't forget the dose-response curve is not linear. 450ug will be very strong indeed.
 
Oh, I'm aware, haha. I have quite a bit of etizolam on hand if anything goes wrong.

Luckily, though, I think things will go well. The drug was so physically benign that I can't imagine having problems - every single difficult psychedelic experience I've had has been due to bad setting or body load.
 
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