16th issue General Heroin Discussion v hit it raw or bag it up?

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^^welcome to the club, i posted picks before of my bag of empty capsules that i had saved..ium talking a full sandwich bag that was 1000s of emptys that had residue in each of them. but since i stoppd buying caps and started buying raw i dont really have all those old bags leftover, so thats why i make and use a foil straw and smoke some dope to givce my nose a break on days when im sick but dont plan on getting high. cause come rainy days im able to uroll the foil straw and smoke the reddish residue and take the sick away like i used to do with my empty caps..i also use the same dollar bill so i can scrape that and i use the same mortar and pestle to break up my raw, so i can scrape those and pull some residue off them when needed.


djtiesto83187 said:
Those vials are cheap. I remember seeing them at the corner stores. You get 100's for a few bucks. They come in different sizes . One bood thing about em is you can see right inside them so you know if its rocked up raw or scramble. They are actually a cool little dope carrying case i think compared to bags.
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in highschool we used to steal vials from the science room and use them for storing our really good weed. but it came back to hurt me though cause i had the vial in my pocket one day at a party an the cops show up and i cuffed it and put it on what i thought wasa table and walked away and it was really an old coke machine wit ha rounded top and the glass vial rolled off and fell to the ground with a *clink, clink* and there was like 40 of us just standing and sitting hrere, wit hthe cops a around and so when it fell and hit the concrete EVERYONE heard it and the cops instanly threw me in cuffs. the shitty part was they prolly wrnt gonna search us, but i was just scared cause less then a month before that i had ben arrrested for having less then a gram on me and this vial had like half a gram in it too and i didnt want to go down with it. which i did anyways "cause i lied at the beginning" which is total truth but who wouldnt? i think they arrested me cause i had been arrested for it not even a month before and you all know thatsd how pigs do things. if you made a bad decision ib nyour past, the cops are the last one to give you a pass or a second chance. i mean they look at us as job security right?

saramajara said:
haha i just dont trust the vials. if im buying raw im buying weight... no one in their right mind is gonna hand me 25 vials. like wtf.. im gonna spend more time scraping that shit out that i am being high
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good coke and good raw dope doesnt really stick. when i get raw that stickes to the bag, its the cut that is sticking not the dope. the same with some good fishscale..its the cut that sticking, not sop much the coke
 
yesterday my friend told me he did dope for 2 weeks one time and didn't get addicted. I told him he'd get addicted sooner or later because it's a scientific fact you will get physically addicted with consistent use. He was literally convinced his body couldn't get addicted to anything....so fucking annoying dealin with ignorant people when ur tryin to help them from personal experience. Every addict goes in thinking they won't be addicted

Could u guys give me some help with a suboxone taper? I'm still doing dope and plan to start suboxone tomorrow or the next day depedin on how long this half g lasts me
 
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tomatalli said:
yesterday my friend told me he did dope for 2 weeks one time and didn't get addicted. I told him he'd get addicted sooner or later because it's a scientific fact you will get physically addicted with consistent use. He was literally convinced his body couldn't get addicted to anything....so fucking annoying dealin with ignorant people when ur tryin to help them from personal experience. Every addict goes in thinking they won't be addicted

Could u guys give me some help with a suboxone taper? I'm still doing dope and plan to start suboxone tomorrow or the next day depedin on how long this half g lasts me
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What kind of taper are you looking to do? Fast, slow, etc?
 
Fast taper, I wanna get off opiates and get my test level back to normal ASAP. I'm usually doing around a bun a day, also how long does it take for test levels to get back ticker opiate use
 
tomatalli said:
Fast taper, I wanna get off opiates and get my test level back to normal ASAP. I'm usually doing around a bun a day, also how long does it take for test levels to get back ticker opiate use
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If you wanna do a quick taper, (there are many variations) an example of what you could do is this:

1. Ween down as low as you can go on the dope. You said you're doing about a bun a day, see if you can get that down to 5 bags a day at least. This will make your detox 10x easier.

2. Take your last shot, preferably at night, go to sleep, wait until you're in full withdrawal the next day and take 2mg's of suboxone. Wait 2 hours.

3. Keep taking another 2mg's every 2 hours until you feel relief, but don't take more than 12mg's the first day.

4. Within a day or two, you should be stabilized on a dose... I don't imagine you needing more than 8mg's.

5. Once you comfortable on that dose, do a straight 7 day kick.

Day 1: 8mg's
Day2: 6mg's
Day 3: 4mg's
Day 4: 2mg's
Day 5: 1mg
Day 6: .5mg
Day 7. .25mg
Day 8: Hop off

As far as when your testosterone will get back to normal, that's different for everyone. But, most people start seeing huge boosts after only a week or two. It will actually be off the charts high and take time to settle down. You should be back to "normal" in 3-4 weeks.
 
^ Agreed. And don't expect to be back to 'normal' for about 2-3 days. Taking more suboxone won't help any, which is why it's not worth taking anymore than 12mg (I never go above 6mg but I was always ultra-conservative with it) and the longer you wait the better it will work.
 
some of the stamps I've gotten over the past 1-2 weeks

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mario bags were kind of mediocre to be honest, Time Line felt like it had me on a timeline though that's for true.

different shit, same toilet, it all evens out in the end really
 
So fucking angry. Got pulled over and swallowed 7 points. Didnt even end up getting searched but got questiomed about dope. Waisted my last $40 on swallowing dope. The only good thing is i learned a lesson, i dont wanna do dope anymore. Im 18, yeah i have chronic pain but dope isnt the answer.
 
tomatalli said:
So fucking angry. Got pulled over and swallowed 7 points. Didnt even end up getting searched but got questiomed about dope. Waisted my last $40 on swallowing dope. The only good thing is i learned a lesson, i dont wanna do dope anymore. Im 18, yeah i have chronic pain but dope isnt the answer.
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A lot of people with chronic pain that have stopped opiates have realized that their pain isn't as bad as they thought. It's like the opiates make your brain more sensitive to pain when they are leaving your system or something, and/or create a 'phantom pain.' That's not to say that your case may not be different, but there are a lot of people that never imagined living without opiates to treat their pain that now do so and are able to deal with the pain just fine.
 
^ill have to admit that my pain is proy worse cus ive been on opiates. Im still extremely angry i swallowed the bags and didnt end up getting searched, thatll sting for awhile

Atleast i just found the 8th bag i gave to my boy in the car just now, i shouldve put those other bags up my ass or something instead
 
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tomatalli said:
^ill have to admit that my pain is proy worse cus ive been on opiates. Im still extremely angry i swallowed the bags and didnt end up getting searched, thatll sting for awhile

Atleast i just found the 8th bag i gave to my boy in the car just now, i shouldve put those other bags up my ass or something instead
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Eh, yeah man that shit happens. Better to waste a few dollars than end up in the can.
 
tomatalli said:
^ill have to admit that my pain is proy worse cus ive been on opiates. Im still extremely angry i swallowed the bags and didnt end up getting searched, thatll sting for awhile

Atleast i just found the 8th bag i gave to my boy in the car just now, i shouldve put those other bags up my ass or something instead
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were you not able to regurgitate them? If that didnt work I would have bought something to make me shit them out as long as they were in plastic of course.
 
my old dealer used to say no amount of dope is worth going to jail over. thats why he would travel really light. used to package the dope in little glass vials with an orange top (that was like his brand) but after one of his guys got searched and arrested he started putting it in tiny ass zip bags. his guy had like ten vials on him and was actually able to swallow 9 of them and claimed the one was for personal use and basically ended up with a slap on the wrist even though he was a convicted felon. city cops dont get too bent out of shape about city resident buying drugs, seems like kids from the county and out of state have it the worst.

swallowing bags is no fun tho, i had to choke down 3 once and luckily was able to hide my guys dope from the cops. i was able to puke the 3 bags up and they actually totally fine. im not sure about the other end tho lol, id be freaked out about getting some kind of bacteria in my circ system. even though a lot of dope is body carried, its wrapped in like condoms and wax to prevent it from being digested. makes me queasy just thinking about how many times i loaded a shot with dope that came out of some dirty africans butt.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
Haha, for real. That's just one of those things you have to put out of your head as a dope fiend.
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LOL.. now that I think about it, that's absolutely disgusting.
Well, atleast it was packaged properly. It's not like there's any fecal matter mixed in with the dope.
 
Way back I used to get a lot of roxi 30s and for a while the dude would run em up from Florida in his ass. Big fat nasty dude (not that it'd be better with any other type of dude). It never even crossed my mind until he started offering me this bag of powder for a good deal. He said it was all the crushed and fucked up ones that didn't do so well during the transport so like an idiot I asked him how that could happen and he explained it to me. I mean they were in condoms with bags in em but, it's still fucking nasty. I instantly regretted asking and him telling me.
 
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