I agree and have no children for this exact reason. Most girls I know here are fun but not willing to make sacrifice of sobriety for 9 months. If you comprimise the childs safety before its born what kind of hell is the poor child in for down the road. I understand many diff circustances and not an easy subject. My opinion is crystal clear, if your taking anything your not having my baby. Even told girls I would go sober with them. Finding a real chick in NYC lol not happening. If subs is kicking your ass how can you fight for our child? I recently broke up with a girl because her substance abuse was effecting everything in a bad way. I'm far from a saint so if your habbits offend me lol homegirls living foul. Its the 30 year old female syndrome. Here in NY they go insane at 30. Have seen it wide spread but hopefully thats just a phase women going thru right now.
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I agree and have no children for this exact reason. Most girls I know here are fun but not willing to make sacrifice of sobriety for 9 months. If you comprimise the childs safety before its born what kind of hell is the poor child in for down the road. I understand many diff circustances and not an easy subject. My opinion is crystal clear, if your taking anything your not having my baby. Even told girls I would go sober with them. Finding a real chick in NYC lol not happening. If subs is kicking your ass how can you fight for our child? I recently broke up with a girl because her substance abuse was effecting everything in a bad way. I'm far from a saint so if your habbits offend me lol homegirls living foul. Its the 30 year old female syndrome. Here in NY they go insane at 30. Have seen it wide spread but hopefully thats just a phase women going thru right now.
Rod-you are misinformed. Going cold turkey is very dangerous for a pregnant mother and life-threatening for the baby. That is why pregnant women get moved to the top of the line as far as methadone maintenance.
Not seeing a doctor to be medically monitored and maintained properly is what is unhealthy. Many pregnant women who are being medically monitored need more opiates while pregnant to prevent withdrawal symptoms.
"Compromising the child's safety"--as you say it, would be doing exactly what you said in your other post-going cold turkey. You need to know this since you are posting as-if this is something that you would tell people to do. What you are saying is not only completely incorrect, it is dangerous.
Not seeing a doctor to be medically monitored and maintained properly is what is unhealthy. Many pregnant women who are being medically monitored need more opiates while pregnant to prevent withdrawal symptoms.
"Compromising the child's safety"--as you say it, would be doing exactly what you said in your other post-going cold turkey. You need to know this since you are posting as-if this is something that you would tell people to do. What you are saying is not only completely incorrect, it is dangerous.
Btw-an update on my situation. I am currently on day 4 of this "5-day detox" which my doctor's office says is their standard policy. FIVE DAYS of cutting-down after being on 16mg for five straight years. I never heard of this but right now I am fine. I also went cold-turkey from Thursday of last week 'til Monday and nothing terrible happened at all. Just anxiety, lethargy, loss-of appetite/mild nausea, and by monday stomach was starting to go bad.
I know that I still have a huge build-up of the stuff in my system but so far so good. I will update and let you all know how it goes.
I know that I still have a huge build-up of the stuff in my system but so far so good. I will update and let you all know how it goes.
I'm in the USA. There are methadone clinics in my area but so far I am determined not to do that. One that I spoke with said that they have 500 clients per day. I was really surprized to hear that.
Yeah-my whole treatment with this unplanned detox has been shady as heck and I've been documenting and taking names and I'm pretty sure that someone in a position to do something is going to hear about this. If the 5-day detox plan actually works anywhere near as easily as the dr's office suggests, yes i will be grateful, but still I have problems with the way my medical treatment has been overall concerning the whole situation.
Yeah-my whole treatment with this unplanned detox has been shady as heck and I've been documenting and taking names and I'm pretty sure that someone in a position to do something is going to hear about this. If the 5-day detox plan actually works anywhere near as easily as the dr's office suggests, yes i will be grateful, but still I have problems with the way my medical treatment has been overall concerning the whole situation.
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How dare you insinuate that I'm a bad parent because I continued taking my meds while pregnant?? I love my babies and do everything for them, always putting their needs before my own. It's easy for anyone to think, "Of course I'd stop taking anything if I were carrying a child." and what did I do the minute I found out I was pregnant-- called my sub doctor to ask how to taper quickly. He advised me to instead stay on as the risk of stress from w/d is worse on the mom & baby than the minimal effects from the meds. I did my research, thoroughly, and decided to continue.
I'm sure you'll counter by saying how the doctor is trying to take my money, but whatever. Your statement was ignorant on so many levels. You must assume everyone on subs is a hair away from using hard drugs again or something. This is the type of thinking that perpetuates the stigma attached to subs. Ugh.
Finding a girl while partying to get sober with & then have a baby sounds like a MUCH more responsible plan. Good luck with that.
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Captain.Heroin
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I wouldn't do the shot. I would utilize non-opiate drugs to keep me going.
Ellua---I don't think that you should take what Rod said personally. You did the right thing for your babies and you know it. What I worry about is his mythological girlfriend or any woman, person, reader...who would follow his line of thinking or take his advice. His misperception and ignorance is actually a common idea. Probably the "drugs are bad"-type of thinking and labels, stereotyping, with no real medical knowledge.
Maybe the facts about how detoxing and withdrawal are more dangerous for pregnant women, should be publicized more? Hopefully most moms will be pointed in the right direction, (a health care professional who knows the facts).
Maybe the facts about how detoxing and withdrawal are more dangerous for pregnant women, should be publicized more? Hopefully most moms will be pointed in the right direction, (a health care professional who knows the facts).
Mr.Scagnattie
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Yes, I have known a bunch of women who where pregnant who were dependent on opiates, and the doctors never recommend you withdrawal cold turkey. The stress on the fetus/baby is much more dangerous than that of being on maintenance meds. I mean, obviously it's preferable to not have to be on anything and have no worries, but it's looked at as basically the lesser of two evils because it's still safer than putting a baby through cold turkey withdrawal.
BlueHues
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Being born with an opiate habit has gotta suck! Talk about being pre-disposed to becoming a junky! You use opiates years later and it gives you flashbacks to when you were a fetus!
I've always wondered how much easier it would be to detox from opiates if you didn't know you were in withdrawal...I guess a baby being born addicted would be one example of it, but what about someone who's used painkillers for years and then stops without thinking about the WDs, it's gotta be different than someone who's sitting there expecting to get hit with horrible symptoms...
I've always wondered how much easier it would be to detox from opiates if you didn't know you were in withdrawal...I guess a baby being born addicted would be one example of it, but what about someone who's used painkillers for years and then stops without thinking about the WDs, it's gotta be different than someone who's sitting there expecting to get hit with horrible symptoms...
Mr.Scagnattie
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Yeah for sure there is a big difference. Ignorance is bliss. A lot of people say that early on, their first ever habit, they were able to detox no problem as they didn't know what was happening so they figured they were just normal sick and let it run its course. Once you find out what's going on though.. you build it up in your head, stress out about it, and the mental aspect makes it 10x worse.
Of course, your actual symptoms get worse and worse as time goes on and the longer you use, so that doesn't help.
I really don't care if anyone gets offended that was my opinion on the sitution like it or love it. You can handle yours anyway you like. All the best to you and your baby. In my situation no girl would be a candidate for a baby if using anything. Thats never going to change and I am very informed and experienced with everything. If you want to do drugs with baby on board then keep it movin, no sweat off my back.
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Fire&Water
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Wow...you actually snagged the words right out my little cyber-sea, tidal pool !
I would have to agree in this case, that ignorance (and lack of withdrawal experience) would be complete and total "bliss"
Yea thats how it starts and subs are very helpful getting off dope. The next step is loosing the needle habbit and you can still get good effects from subs. You don't want to be on subs for life. The system will systematically kick you out eventually. Usually when your not ready and force you into a decision. Quit or go back to old lifestyle. Everyone has to battle their own demons but alot of experienced sub users on here and willing to help.
i got jumped off at 2mgs, it was horrible...
Ya I agree, tried to jump off on 2mg tabs. Fought it for a couple weeks but ended up back on subs for another year. Then switch to films and could taper much lower and it was an easy jump this time. Now I clean for 7-8 weeks and feeling much better. No lingering wds, and energy levels higher now than when I was on subs.
I was recently switched from subutex 8mg to the 8mg strips and am very unhappy about it. Main issue I have with the strips is versatility. I can't snort a little bump here or there if I feel its necessary. I refuse to shoot either one but I would have at least considered shooting the H.T subutex.
Oh well, I guess this will make it easier to get where I am supposed to be.
Oh well, I guess this will make it easier to get where I am supposed to be.
Mr.Scagnattie
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Just take the sublingually... the strips dissolve way more efficiently than the pills and are 10x easier to split into small doses, as small as you want.
If you really feel the need to snort something.. just waterline them.
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