AL-LAD Now available in UK

[Marmalade]

MM/PTCH: please don't take my word for it being boring, knock's right tbh. I'm appear to be pretty broken when it comes to drugs and I doubt my experience is standard.

I will say tho, that even at a low functional dose of 1g, dried liberties still give me a nice body buzz and lovely colour enhancement and puts a smile on my face everytime.

I forgot to mention re AL LAD tho, that within 15 minutes of taking the first one, I got a lump in the side of my throat after I put it in my mouth, SL, And it pretty much stayed with me until I fell alseep. It just felt like it was stuck there; around the back of the tonsil or vocal chord area (it wasn't, and I later swallowed the tab after about 20 minutes SL). It was really annoying and impossible to forget about.

NerdB did a search and apparently someone else in one of the BL AL LAD threads mentioned the same thing happening to him, so maybe it was an allergy thing?

This happen to anyone else?

 

[knock]

That's weird, Marmz, and sounds pretty unpleasant. I had zero side effects both times.

Forgive me for my choice of words last night, I was just getting worked up that your comments were being taken the wrong way. I think what you said was totally valid, but people are reading too much into it, as they often do, and while I think that's always a mistake, I think in this case it's a particularly big one. AL-LAD is not LSD; there is much less in the way of wild revelations and reliving childhood memories etc., but most of the other stuff is present, especially visuals and humour, with it's own unique signature. That's how it is for me anyway.


The existence of poorly laid blotter is a concern, but 3 of my stash were at least what I expected, possibly more.

 

[brimz]

Yeah i have a had small Psychedelic Renaissance of late . I took the 2c,e in the last 10 days but haven't taken LSD since the the 90s .

Completely agree about the low dosing leading to a more uncomfortable trip.

And with your advice to brimz...specially since reading Marmz's opinions

Can you explain this MM . Are you saying i'm probably better off doing more than one blotter ? I was planning on taking one n a half as thats' all i have & there would be little point in having the half left over init .

, i only have 1 n a half & i'm sure they are from the same batch as the ones Marmz got ..

Thanx

 

[knock]

1 was exactly enough, 2 was too much. How is that inconsistent? Wouldn't you expect 2 to be too much if 1 was the perfect dose?

2 was more than I expected from 2. 1 was enough for my purposes when I took 1. When I took 2 I wanted a deeper, stronger experience, subjectively twice as much as I got from 1, but I got more than I expected. Make sense now?

 

[headfuck123]

if your experienced with psychs (which i'm guessing you are), take the 1.5 tabs. expect a quicker come-up than acid, different coloured visuals to acid that are just as pronounced if not more so than a similar dose of acid yet with more functionality and less confusion. Obviously set and setting is just as important as the choice of drug if not more so.

 

[knock]

Brimz, one and a half should be fine, fairly strong but not extreme.

Please mind what I've said about inconsistent blotter, it might be wrong, maybe there are just one or a few duff ones, we don't know,yet.

 

[Marmalade]

That's weird, Marmz, and sounds pretty unpleasant. I had zero side effects both times.

Forgive me for my choice of words last night, I was just getting worked up that your comments were being taken the wrong way. I think what you said was totally valid, but people are reading too much into it, as they often do, and while I think that's always a mistake, I think in this case it's a particularly big one. AL-LAD is not LSD; there is much less in the way of wild revelations and reliving childhood memories etc., but most of the other stuff is present, especially visuals and humour, with it's own unique signature. That's how it is for me anyway.


The existence of poorly laid blotter is a concern, but 3 of my stash were at least what I expected, possibly more.

I've sent the remains of my AL LAD off to be 'tested', so it'll be interesting to see what results come back from that.

I agree with your comments from earlier knock. I consider you far more knowledgeable than myself on psychs and your experience is vastly larger than my own. I've tried very few ... LSD and shrooms. I've got some 2cb here that I was gifted ages ago that I've not tried yet, so I think I'll give that a go soon and see how it suits me, so at least I've got another comparison for AL LAD.

Your description of 'candyfloss' was seriously spot on too. I just don't really go for candyfloss, hence why I thought it was pretty dull. I basically like drugs for the emotional connection they generate, also the extent they increase my thinking agility, and then how much they make me smile, and this didn't affect any of those elements that much for me, but not everyone takes psychs for the same reason so these things wont be a factor for the majority anyhow.

The ritalin possibly might have affected my trip also. I took about 20mg between 9-10am. It wasn't slow release but it may have hindered the trip.

I recon everyone should give it a shot at least. I can't see anyone having a bad trip on it, so it wont be a waste of cash. Going by this thread, the ratio of good reports seems to be at 90% in favour, and most of those peeps seem to have more experience with psychs than me, so anyone making the choice not to try it based on my feelings on the stuff, is probably gonna miss out.

 

[matt<3ketamine]

I've sent the remains of my AL LAD off to be 'tested', so it'll be interesting to see what results come back from that.

I agree with your comments from earlier knock. I consider you far more knowledgeable than myself on psychs and your experience is vastly larger than my own. I've tried very few ... LSD and shrooms. I've got some 2cb here that I was gifted ages ago that I've not tried yet, so I think I'll give that a go soon and see how it suits me, so at least I've got another comparison for AL LAD.

Your description of 'candyfloss' was seriously spot on too. I just don't really go for candyfloss, hence why I thought it was pretty dull. I basically like drugs for the emotional connection they generate, also the extent they increase my thinking agility, and then how much they make me smile, and this didn't affect any of those elements that much for me, but not everyone takes psychs for the same reason so these things wont be a factor for the majority anyhow.

The ritalin possibly might have affected my trip also. I took about 20mg between 9-10am. It wasn't slow release but it may have hindered the trip.

I recon everyone should give it a shot at least. I can't see anyone having a bad trip on it, so it wont be a waste of cash. Going by this thread, the ratio of good reports seems to be at 90% in favour, and most of those peeps seem to have more experience with psychs than me, so anyone making the choice not to try it based on my feelings on the stuff, is probably gonna miss out.

Take the 2c-b on a night out, it's an amazing chemical, in my top 5 definately

 

[knock]

Marmz, you should be happy at how seriously people take what you write, even PT worships you really :D

Such power is a dangerous force.

 

[Marmalade]

He's just been looking for anyone to confirm what he thought he already knew about it.

That and just annoy folks.

Same old .. etc.

 

[knock]

Oh yeah you're right, he does that

 

[RC Enthusiast]

It is definitely much more hedonistic than most other psyches. Probably more like 2cb than mushrooms. Super duper 2cb, but 2cb none the less. That's not to say it's not really fucking powerful, because it is.

I can't really understand this umming and arring over at max a tenner. Judging on a lot of people's reports you could have a really good time, or at most according to like 10% of people you could have a bit of a meh time. Personally I wouldn't want to miss out on this stuff, because it's not something the illegal market is going to take over if/when it is banned. So it's worth a try, and if you like it worth hoarding a shit load of it in your freezer.

I'm beginning to wonder if I got a very powerful hit, or i'm just a light weight. My friends took more from the same batch and they said the 2nd time, using just 1 blotter, they blew their top. If the vendors are laying it themselves it could so easily be varying potency's.

 

[knock]

Yes it's a shame powder isn't (obviously) available. I don't trust the doses now will need to sample a few more of my batch before being sure of what I've got, but so far they don't seem underdosed, which would be a less acceptable error :D

 

[parttime crackhead]

2 was more than I expected from 2. 1 was enough for my purposes when I took 1. When I took 2 I wanted a deeper, stronger experience, subjectively twice as much as I got from 1, but I got more than I expected. Make sense now?

No. That just shows that it doesn't have an exponential dose-reposnse curve (bumped that patter from Transform, typos, the lot) not that they're inconsistent

 

[knock]

No. That just shows that it doesn't have an exponential dose-reposnse curve (bumped that patter from Transform, typos, the lot) not that they're inconsistent

It doesn't prove it, but it is a possibility, one I mentioned in a post weeks ago...

I just want to want to say that 1.5 it was actually 2 ( I think? Might have been more.) of these beautys proved to be a little more than I bargained for; wasn't exactly the best set or setting, after filling my head with 240mg MXE ("layered") a couple of mg etiziolam was supposed to send me to sleep. Hell no it just gave the me confidence to munch more drugs. So I munched AL-LAD. Despite "knowing" that "benzos would kill the trip".

And did they fuck kill it! The floor beneath me disappeared and the voices of the damned in hell seemed to call me to jump into the Abyss! I could snap out of it easily enough and be in full control for at least 3 tenths of a second at a time. It was actually fun, except I'd gone completely insane. Mission Accomplished! Bring the Boys Back Home!

Somehow I must have benzoed myself to sleep, either the first dose kicked in properly or I somehow managed to eat more, as I just woke up, still tripping. I have propped an empty hot water bottle over a toilet roll stand (you know, the ones that are just a vertical rod) in my bathroom to form a kind of ad-hoc flag, maybe it was to signal my submission to the forces of AL-LAD? I don't know, but those forces do seem fucking powerful when you step up the dose. Exponentially so.

Still no bodyload whatsoever but I can't comment on the mindfuck, there was, sadly, not a lot of mind involved in the experience. This is, apparently, what happens when I spend the afternoon at my parents.

How not to do drugs, by Knock, 3rd Edition.

So thanks for your wisdom but it's not news.

 

[Transform]

The powder was available and I would suggest that different set and setting were more likely than inconsistent laying if you had the official blotter. I can't speak for resellers who laid their own but the official ones seem to have been very well laid.

Doesn't it being more than twice as strong suggest it does have an exponential dose response?

 

[knock]

Yes it does, and that is probably the answer, but suggestion is not proof, there are other possible explanations, and we have one person who had no effect whatsoever from a blotter (I know from a PM).

It might be both, exponential dose-response and dodgy blotters. And set and setting.

 

[parttime crackhead]

Doesn't it being more than twice as strong suggest it does have an exponential dose response?

Sorry that was me being a spazzy and not fully understanding what I'd just copy & pasted. You're right.

 

[mrcientist]

Well... Me and Mr(S)cientist tried this last Thursday in a beautiful open space, I had 500ug and she ~280ug because of slight stature and relative inexperience.

An hour in, slight mood lift, and some undulating grass. Things got very intense very quickly after this. Very little insight compared to the old LSD-25, but wow...

The visuals closed in and in, until we were surrounded by onion-like layers of existence.

3 hours of intense synestesia, ego death, time dilation followed, before things eased off. After a tricky journey home, the last astonishing effect was watching my well worn front door biodegrade, collapse and be reformed immaculately.

One day, I shall go into more detail, but these were the most important points.

A thoroughly enjoyable, very visual experience.

NB, the tabs were immediately swallowed, ruling out NBOMe, with which i have (somewhat neutral) experience with

 

[B9]

I would suggest that different set and setting were more likely than inconsistent laying if you had the official blotter. I can't speak for resellers who laid their own but the official ones seem to have been very well laid.

Doesn't it being more than twice as strong suggest it does have an exponential dose response?

I'd agree I reckon it's consistently laid, deceptively powerful, & set & setting are paramount.