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Marijuana withdrawal symptoms.

If I smoke weed continuously for a few weeks and then stop abruptly, I have the following symptoms:

- anhedonia
- night sweats
- crazy dreams, disturbed sleep
- reduced appetite
- daytime grogginess
- memory lapses
- life feelings more challenging, even depressing

I don't have hardcore physical withdrawls like one would with a traditionally addictive substance such as opiates, but my body goes through an undeniable adjustment period. I can't speak for everyone else, but this is what happens to me.
 
Love a person who just called truth foolish and myself a fool?

I'm sorry, I don't have the ability to do that.


Also, I've learned to deal with the stubbornness of most potheads when faced with unfavorable aspects of their DOC. I do this by not pandering to their delusions and doing my damned best to shatter them.

Stop spamming and just be useful.

Edit: Oh, I love being a hypocrite!

But seriously, marijuana is addictive but I think any withdrawal symptoms are just rebound effects WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY WHAT HE MEANT SO GET THAT SHIT COVERED STICK OUT OF YOUR ASS ITS FESTERING

If I smoke weed continuously for a few weeks and then stop abruptly, I have the following symptoms:

- anhedonia
- daytime grogginess
- life feelings more challenging, even depressing
I get the same feelings from being an every day pothead. If I smoke as soon as I wake up and don't keep myself active I'll want to go to bed after only being up 6 hours.

I wonder scientifically, what the hell are these cannabinoids in weed doing to cause something so horrible as anhedonia and depression? I would love to know. I would love to stop if I knew these would get better. I love weed, but I can't deny that I am not happy or interested in ANYTHING.
 
He wasn't stating an experience. He made a concrete claim indicating that his post was factual, not anecdotal, and the "fact" he was spreading around and building an opinion around is conclusively false. I don't "spread the love" to people toting misinformation as fact.



Also, notice I said "truth," not "the truth." There was nothing singular or possessive about the statement. Leaving that aside, when it comes to addiction a person either knows what it is or they don't. In my mind, there is no grey area between comprehension and lack thereof. Again, they either get it or they don't but there's nothing stopping them from learning, especially on a website that almost specializes in addictive behaviors and lifestyles. It would be a waste for someone to believe something true when the information proving their belief incorrect is literally the press of a button away (all's he had to do was scroll up, for Christ's sake, didn't even have to leave the page.)



[EDIT: Besides, I just corrected an extremely similar misconception of yours in this thread as well. Do you think I should repeat myself over and over in this situation? I don't think I should. I do, however, reserve the privilege of responding to any and everybody that calls me a fool after making a ridiculously incorrect claim. The tone of my posting that you seem to have a problem with would've been avoided had the BLer in question refrained from using an incorrect belief as a stepping stone to insulting people who know (read: not believe) the veracity of his or her claim.]


:-)
 
I personally have been a HEAVY smoker and whenever I stop for a while I get irritable, my appetite decreases, and very anxious. I really believe this is more mental than physical. IMO MJ could be physically addicting but it would be nothing compared to any other physically addicting drugs I have withdrawn from.
 
I never was that really a heavy herb user but even when I would smoke daily I personally did not get any withdrawal symptoms that other people are describing. However I have never had withdrawal symptoms from smoking cigarettes or cigars even when I was a light daily smoker for about 2 weeks while on vacation as a teenager. I also did not get any alcohol withdrawal symptoms either despite drinking daily for a long period of time. I asked my doctor and medical professionals about this and they said I must be genetically lucky.

I no longer use anything but I do know people who are/were into smoking herb who do get withdrawal symptoms like feeling sick or nauseous if they don't smoke, or oddly enough some have told me how they can't sleep or eat food if they do not smoke or use herb. I have also seen people posting about this on this and other sites.
 
Stop spamming and just be useful.

Edit: Oh, I love being a hypocrite!

But seriously, marijuana is addictive but I think any withdrawal symptoms are just rebound effects WHICH IS OBVIOUSLY WHAT HE MEANT SO GET THAT SHIT COVERED STICK OUT OF YOUR ASS ITS FESTERING

Spamming? I.... I don't think that's what I'm doing....

I also don't think he even knows what a rebound effect is. Just another mindless pothead who relies on other people inferring what he means instead of learning to convey a thought successfully. It's symbolic, really...

I mean, you could ask him. I'm betting he'll still sing you the same story.
 
[EDIT: Super fast delete. Went hostile without warrant. Sorry if you saw that, RR.]

Yes, fuck comparisons. We're talking about dependencies and addictions here. We're not saying "Is cannabis as bad as heroin in terms of addictability?", nor are we pondering whether cannabis dependency overpowers addiction or anything of the like.


The question, put simply, was:



In answering that question, my new motto will be "Fuck comparisons" just for you, RR. Physical marijuana withdrawal symptoms do exist-- whether they're a manifestation of psychological ones is irrelevant. If a person habitually ingests marijuana over a long period of time, cessation of use will cause changes in their body to occur and, in that light, the only answer to the question posed in the OP of this thread is "Yes," or however you can answer that question that affirms the existence of marijuana withdrawal (you gotta admit, the question was worded kind of shakily).

lol i know they exist and are physical in nature as well as psychological, i've experienced them myself! Upregulation of cbd receptors and all of the sudden no external CBDs are entering the body, of course your body is going to experience some unpleasantness physically and mentally as you go back to baseline.

I used to be one of those people who whined about running out of cannabis and thought it was the end of the world, that was until i started using opiates/benzos/stims. It just changed my perspective but if you don't know any different and cannabis is all you use, yeah it may indeed suck for you. I've quit multiple times with no issues after long periods of use, simply because i actually wanted to quit. When i didn't want to quit, i got hit with vivid nightmares, night sweats, anorexia, nausea, irritability, insomnia and all the other symptoms everyone else experiences.

If you want to say fuck comparisons that's fine, just don't do it for me, do it because it's ultimately irrelevant to the cannabis user who is actually suffering when they are in withdrawal. The comparisons are meaningless really but for those suffering from cannabis w/d, it could be a hell of a lot worse.

kind of wish i saw how you went hostile on me lol
 
Spamming? I.... I don't think that's what I'm doing....

I also don't think he even knows what a rebound effect is. Just another mindless pothead who relies on other people inferring what he means instead of learning to convey a thought successfully. It's symbolic, really...

I mean, you could ask him. I'm betting he'll still sing you the same story.
Wow, you're spamming again. I'm guessing you get into a lot of personality conflicts with people in real life.

and no, I got what he's saying and everyone else did too. You did as well, you just wanted to be a spammy douche. and man, a spammy douche? That sounds disgusting.
 
I can quit literally every drug out there with the help of cannabis. Coincidentally, I need the help of pretty much every drug out there to quit cannabis just for a few months. My body forms a rather tight dependency and personally I get the shakes, shivers, sweats, spontaneous vomits, endless insomnia, loss of appetite and restless limbs (instead of restless legs, I get the same thing with my whole damn body, I HATE IT). It's pretty much exactly the same as opioid withdrawal for me, except quite a bit less intense than what opioid withdrawal can be at it's worst. It's no surprise, the brains cannabinoid and opioid systems kinda partially work together in synergy. I tend to smoke so much that I become almost immune to the high, then I take a break. Right now I'm preparing for my longest break from cannabis so far, I don't know if I can make it though as I kinda might need CBD as a regular anti-psychotic...
 
You did as well, you just wanted to be a spammy douche. and man, a spammy douche? That sounds disgusting.



So why do you keep saying it?

If what you post is true, though, you're fighting fire with fire and that's no way to cool off.


Are you confusing spamming with trolling? I assure you, I'm doing neither but we can carry this conversation if you'd prefer. It's funny, I got into this part of my conversation with HappyGuy (and by proxy, you) by refusing to spam the same message over and over... Strange...
 
I can quit literally every drug out there with the help of cannabis. Coincidentally, I need the help of pretty much every drug out there to quit cannabis just for a few months. My body forms a rather tight dependency and personally I get the shakes, shivers, sweats, spontaneous vomits, endless insomnia, loss of appetite and restless limbs (instead of restless legs, I get the same thing with my whole damn body, I HATE IT). It's pretty much exactly the same as opioid withdrawal for me, except quite a bit less intense than what opioid withdrawal can be at it's worst. It's no surprise, the brains cannabinoid and opioid systems kinda partially work together in synergy. I tend to smoke so much that I become almost immune to the high, then I take a break. Right now I'm preparing for my longest break from cannabis so far, I don't know if I can make it though as I kinda might need CBD as a regular anti-psychotic...

This has to be in your mind, and if it's not then it's just very temporary. I really doubt cannabis is doing this unless it is laced. Make sure your dealer isn't getting you addicted to anything.
 
^i always found that my tolerance would flat line at a certain point, usually around 1-2 grams vaped/day, i couldn't get any higher, but i'd still get high. I would just switch up strains often and that kept everything perfect. I didn't like tolerance breaks because i'd get way too high the first few times then my old tolerance would be back anyway, just seemed pointless. If you are always high though, then you don't have anything to compare it to so you feel like it's normal and you don't feel that you are high, when it's most likely the case that you are indeed high. I used to just smoke at nights for that reason, worked out great.

i quit cannabis last year due to anxiety but every so often take a hit, had some purple kush the other day and holy fuck that is a great medical strain, if you need CBDs a pure indica is awesome, actually calmed me down instead of hitting my panic button.
 
Weed definetly is addictive to some extent, I've smoked daily for a 2-3 years now and I'm cravin a joint as we speak.. Like I'd do alot to get that joint.
It certainly is less hard to quit than pretty much everything else though.

But from experience, not any science or anything, I can say weed IS addictive to some extent, you will crave it if you love it like I do..
The worst part is life seeming boring or dull when not smoking.. playing games for example just sucks without weed now.
I wish weed was sold like alcohol to adults, that way I could probably smoke a little everyday and be fine


You're wrong.

1)I smoke a 1/4 a day, just got off a 9 hour shift and Ive eaten, showered, got on here, etc before I roll a blunt or something; I wouldn't suck a dudes dick cause i wanna smoke just like your "I'd do a lot...."
2) Life may seem boring because you dont get "stoned" off your ass everytime anymore it's like a healthy cig for anxiety tbh.
3) Quitting is all on the person, I have immediate 7 day stops that are mandatory and have trouble falling asleep fast and thats it.

If you seriously can't stop taking a pill, you're such a weak minded person; let alone unable to stop cannabis.
 
This has to be in your mind, and if it's not then it's just very temporary. I really doubt cannabis is doing this unless it is laced. Make sure your dealer isn't getting you addicted to anything.

It's not laced. Are you seriously posing that I have diarrhea, nausea to the point of vomiting and dry-heaving, extreme night-sweats (when I'm not even awake to consciously crave anything) slight muscle/joint pains just because I seriously desire to be high? Sorry, but that's plain ridiculous. My body is adept at adapting to the presence of various drugs, when those drugs are abruptly taken away from my body, it usually has to adjust again over a couple days/weeks. If it's too hard for you too accept that this is my individual reaction and that someone else out there might react the same, I don't know what to say.

But you're right about the temporary part, it usually lasts for a couple days to a week for me.

RobotRipping: I have had very similiar thoughts about tolerance and t-breaks myself as well.
 
It's not laced. Are you seriously posing that I have diarrhea, nausea to the point of vomiting and dry-heaving, extreme night-sweats (when I'm not even awake to consciously crave anything) slight muscle/joint pains just because I seriously desire to be high? Sorry, but that's plain ridiculous. My body is adept at adapting to the presence of various drugs, when those drugs are abruptly taken away from my body, it usually has to adjust again over a couple days/weeks. If it's too hard for you too accept that this is my individual reaction and that someone else out there might react the same, I don't know what to say.

But you're right about the temporary part, it usually lasts for a couple days to a week for me.

RobotRipping: I have had very similiar thoughts about tolerance and t-breaks myself as well.
I don't mean to offend you. Such claims are hard to believe, though. I've known many potheads and none have ever complained of any withdrawals. I've seen people post on the internet about weed withdrawals and their stories sounded exaggerated to me as well, however their symptoms were much more benign than yours'. I've just never seen proven evidence that cannabis can cause anything like this, so you'll have to excuse me.

Personal experience also tells me what you're saying isn't correct either, but that's only for myself I guess. People seem to vary in how much they say cannabinoids are addictive, some say AM-2201 had worse withdrawals than heroin and some say there were none. I'm guessing it's related to the personal physiology of the cannabinoid system within each person's body. Some people just don't seem to have any after effects of stopping use of cannabinoids, while others have some severe reactions.

However, the thing is, I've yet to see these severe reactions proven. That doesn't mean I think you're lying, I'm just not sure to believe you or not. I'm very skeptical so you will have to excuse that.
 
there is plenty of evidence, search google scholar or pubmed. It's well documented. I admit, they withdrawals aren't that bad but they do exist, physically and psychologically. I don't think cannabis is necessarily addictive though, but it does most certainly cause a physical dependency.

mindset has a lot to do with it too. as well if you're a casual user and quit, you won't feel a thing. If you're smoking an ounce a day for 10 years, you're going to feel like absolute shit for at least a few days. The last few times i quit, i had 0 withdrawal symptoms but when i was younger i would get all the typical effects and it seemed so horrible.

i've had some hefty synth noid habits and withdrawals weren't bad at all, but some people do actually have pretty bad withdrawals from synth noids, on the level of heroin withdrawals? i doubt it, but it sucks nonetheless.

night sweats and vivid dreams are two of the biggest symptoms, as well as nausea but that's a rebound symptom. night sweats aren't though, so there's your proof.
 
there is plenty of evidence, search google scholar or pubmed. It's well documented. I admit, they withdrawals aren't that bad but they do exist, physically and psychologically. I don't think cannabis is necessarily addictive though, but it does most certainly cause a physical dependency.

mindset has a lot to do with it too. as well if you're a casual user and quit, you won't feel a thing. If you're smoking an ounce a day for 10 years, you're going to feel like absolute shit for at least a few days. The last few times i quit, i had 0 withdrawal symptoms but when i was younger i would get all the typical effects and it seemed so horrible.

i've had some hefty synth noid habits and withdrawals weren't bad at all, but some people do actually have pretty bad withdrawals from synth noids, on the level of heroin withdrawals? i doubt it, but it sucks nonetheless.

night sweats and vivid dreams are two of the biggest symptoms, as well as nausea but that's a rebound symptom. night sweats aren't though, so there's your proof.

I smoke heavily and never had any withdrawal symptoms. An ounce per two weeks Id say.

Edit: You two below me have the wrong idea. That's not what I was saying. I merely had dobuts at FnX's case because it sounded so severe. I've never heard of withdrawal from anyone in real life so I honestly think you guys are overstating it. Maybe the weed in MS is just too shitty? Gets me very stoned though, so it's good enough for me. If you're having intense withdrawals from weed I'd suggest not to put so much THC in your body that you could fail a drug test for a year after you've stopped smoking.
 
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I smoke heavily and never had any withdrawal symptoms. An ounce per two weeks Id say.

Good for you but we are all different and therefore all respond differently to chemicals or lacktherof.

I don't doubt anything you say about your experience though but in my experience I get night-sweats, nightmares and get very irritable sometimes.

How can you say that just because you or your friends has one experience someone else can't have a whole different experience?

There are so many biological factors that make us all very different.
 
yes indeed, unless you can show every single person that smokes heavily does not have any withdrawals ever, you cannot make the statement that there is no such thing as cannabis withdrawals. The evidence is already out there anyway.

A better argument is whether cannabis is addictive or not.
 
I haven't missed a day since February - my last month long break. I have also gotten into dabbing oils during this time period, which certainly has not helped my tolerance, nor concomitantly my withdrawal symptoms. And my withdrawal is very much rooted in real, valid, and debilitating physical symptoms - it's not just wanting to get high. My body gets rocked, fucking completely fucking owned when I don't smoke weed, in similar ways to what FnX described. It is agony.

Today, I have been suffering all day. Usually life is great, but today is garbage, because I am addicted to weed and chose not to smoke any today, which has been one hell of a willpower battle. I am on this website typing just to keep myself preoccupied, because the present state of my body is in sheer chaos and torture. I have not had anything to eat in 24 hours, and I usually consume a lot of food. I have insane gut rot, constantly feel like I am going to spew, and my anxiety is so bad that I really just want to fuck off and go catatonic. The anxiety is so bad that it is manifesting as physical problems seemingly unrelated to my messed up mind. But I know that everything is 100% due to the lack of thc. I can't remain still though, I always have to keep moving. But I just tried to down a light blueberry milkshake, to no avail. Puked it right out...

I can only imagine what "sleep" will be like tonight. Try tossing and turning while exploring the various ways in which I have ruined my life through abusing cannabis again. I don't even think melatonin could knock me out, I'm pretty manic. I've been having such a great time lately though, that I am due for some crap in my life. You can't just get all that magic and euphoria out of a plant for nothing. This will be worth it in the end, because getting baked a month or two down the road, without feeling like total shit after and needing to blaze again, is going to be great. And my health will improve.

But I will not allow myself to smoke cannabis again, until I can live a normal day without it. This is far from normal, it is damned misery. My reasons for getting baked should be valid. Warding off miserable withdrawal symptoms from hell, and inevitably further strengthening them in the end, is not a good reason to get baked. And if you're really smoking a lot of weed these days - as in, you actually notice and it's hard if you try and limit yourself a bit and not take a hit for 3 hours - then you can definitely expect some shit like this down the road, especially after blazing that hard for a good while. For those who keep it to evenings, and even for those who don't have the urge to take bong tokes all the time when they are already baked, you'd never experience anything remotely like this. It really takes some serious, heavy long term usage to completely fuck yourself over like this. You have to get addicted first - it is possible to develop a compulsive urge to smoke more weed even though you're already high and it doesn't make any sense for you to do that. You've just been using it too much for a while, probably more often than not, so that's what ends up happening with an addictive substance after awhile. Then comes the withdrawal. Otherwise, drug dealers wouldn't work so well because you'd just say "fuck this shit" at the very first tinge of withdrawal without having the cravings to keep you coming back.

Weed withdrawal really sucks, it is one of the most miserable things I have ever known, and it is real enough that it has pretty much ruined a great deal my life. It is real enough that giving into it has cost me tens of thousands of dollars. It is real enough that I cannot eat food, or get any sleep without being baked for an extended period of time. It is real enough that I have sacrificed my previously stable mental health for it. And that is sure as hell real enough for me. I have tried many things, and have known one addiction. I don't even know what addiction is for things other than weed. That doesn't make any sense to me, to myself addiction is, and always will be, one problem. It is a crazy battle with a plant that I really truly deeply love and I have allowed to merge with the core of my being to the point that I am a wreck without it. Imagine that, having to smoke a lot of weed just in order for your body to function. Seems like it could be pretty disturbing, right? I mean, being stoned is way different than being sober - my personality completely changes - and I was naturally born into a sober state, but I've become a different person and it's near-impossible to get back to my good old self - that fluid, laid back guy who remembers a lot, can actually sit down and focus, and enjoys talking to strangers. It just takes everything out of me to get back there. But the driving force, the urge to use is a very powerful beast and it owns my life right now unfortunately.
 
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