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Treacle said:
I think that's the nicest comment I've had on here, and I've been here for over a fucking decade! I'll reply to this tomorrow. Top track, by the way! Was watching their 2010 gig, earlier, and reliving me watching them. Yes, I saw them, and it was fucking insane. ;)
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Ha, you're very welcome. I think one of the main reasons i signed up to bluelight was to engage in spirited discussion with thoughtful people. I make a sharp distinction in my mind between this kind of interaction and an intellectual debate. I hate the concept and made a conscious decision to avoid so called debates many years ago, when i was about 19 if i recall. After all, what is a debate other than a verbal form of war far. The main emphasis seems to be on whether there is a winner and a loser, and half the time, you just get people using their intelligence to derail the other person, when they could have pushed for something more productive. Don't get me wrong, sometimes people are simply confused over a point and if perceived by me to be unreceptive to attempts to open their mind i will on occasion basically just loose it and go off on one. Yeah going off on one, i'm good at that.

Massively envious of both yourself and tangerine dream (nice post by the way!). I've always been in love with that band, their debut, Evil Empire and Renegades are all up there with my fave albums (battle of loss angeles didn't really grab me so i'm interested if people disagree, might spur me on to give it another go). I got the video they brought out after evil empire too. To this day i can't work out how tom morello can play the end riff to bullet in the head while bouncing around the stage like dave grohl (I love dave grohl but he is fucking loose as hell live, missing out any chord that doesn't take him from A to B in the straightest fucking line possible). The other thing that stuck in my mind was the entirety of Rock am Ring festival all jumping at the same time. Unheard of!

I've seen some cool bands but mostly past their prime. The pixies down in bend orgegan, pretty boring, holiday sounded ok but the rest was just not what frank black wanted to be doing - evidenced by the style of his solo albums that were coming out around the time. The deftones were an exception though. I saw them like a year ago. They started off pretty weak with some crap off any one of their last four albums but then they just turned it on like you've never seen. My own summer followed by lotion was just crazy. I was well prepared for the gig having downed a bottle of benylin dry coughs on the way down. It was just so sick tripping on DXM with chino about 6 foot away crouched down on the railing or some shit. It was like i was 16 again. Thats the show i missed - deftones supported by will haven back in 1997. Nevermid.

The best band i've ever seen by far were placebo on their without you i'm nothing tour. It was like one of those once in a life time shows. My favourite british band by a mile back then, having just peaked and touring the album for the first time. All i can remember was the pitch black stage and hair pin silence, then "duh duh" and "scared of girls" unfurled (sorry had to use a molko verb). The mofo had two marshall stacks! I'll say no more lest i be forced to admit to conscious awareness of having derailed the thread.
 
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The shade is a tool,
a device,
a savior
See, i try and look up
to the sky,
but my eyes burn

Cloud
Come (shove it) [x3]
Shove (shove it) [x3]
The sun (shove it) [x3]
Aside (shove it aside)

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Is it hard to aim an Ak when you're off your nut on smack? I'm not asking whether or not you have personal experience, but if you happen to know i'd be greatful. Might help me make my mind up on the whole Kurt Cobain suicide thing.
 
gayorstraight said:
Don't take this the wrong way, how come this doesn't happen in hotter countries/countries that are hot all the time? Maybe it does of course, do they do different hours, fewer hours?

This country kinda falls apart in summer and winter
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Boxers dry out to crazy levels in order to make weight for a fight. During the 30 hr period between the weigh in and the fight a fighter may often gain around 20 pounds (when fighting at middle weight which is 160lbs - so thats around 12 per cent of their body weight, most of which is water). In general they lose that weight over about 4 days gradually, however, you get some nutters like Julio Cesar Chavez Jr who managed to lose 22 lbs in under 24 hours in order to make weight. The thing with these guys though is that they are elite athletes who have bodies that can cope with all sorts of crazyness. Their resting pulse is so low due to the strength of their heart muscles that they don't wither and die as soon as there blood gets a little too sticky. They also train at altitude before the fight which means that their blood jam packed with oxygen.
 
gayorstraight said:
Don't take this the wrong way, how come this doesn't happen in hotter countries/countries that are hot all the time? Maybe it does of course, do they do different hours, fewer hours?

This country kinda falls apart in summer and winter
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Hotter countries are more prepared and don't expect people to walk round with 16kilos of mail on stepp hills DURING THE HOTTEST PART OF THE DAY. The prob is that RM are not altering duties to reflect the weather conditions. They should.

In Spain I used to get my mail before 8am, or after 4pm in the summer.

I can't remember about Turkey, think it was evening deliveries there too in the summer.

EDIT>>>anyway, got to get back out, just necked 3 pints of ribena, and prepared 2 litres in 500ml bottles to take out for the rest of the round, will be out till about 2, 3 more hours in the HOTTEST PART OF THE FUCKING DAY!! :!
 
I remember RM changed the system a few years back, where they used the size of parcel as the main criterion for on-foot mail delivery instead of its weight. Maybe i got that wrong, however I'll never forget the day that my 90 cannisters of nitrous turned up on my doorstep having been delivered by a guy about 5, 6" and about six months short of retirement. I was openly concerned as to why they hadn't given it to a van driver and his reply was where i got the idea that they changed the rules or something. I did not feel good about the situation and refrained from ordering any more nitrous cannisters. I guess now i might just make sure to order it by special delivery which should have ensured it was dropped off by van, but I'm still not a hundred percent on that.

It's also worth remembering that in past situations involving the most dispicable of working conditions, like forced labour for instance, workers were dropping dead from anywhere between the old U.S.S.R and the Spanish colonies of south america. Obviously its an extreme example, however, it stilll counts as work even in none of the workers got payed. To pick the two worst examples i can think of, namely the sugar trade in barbados (british / american colonies, african slaves) and the silver mines down in peru (spanish colony, indiginous workers), the number of "workers" involved could not easily be compared with the number of slaves working on tobacco plantations in good old golden virginia, the reason being that in peru and barbados a turn over rate was required instead due to the fact that many workers failed to make it beyond even 5 years. It was forced genocide and reading the material as part of my studies on american history a few years ago was one of the hardest things i've had to do to be honest. That aside for a minute, it does shed light on the fact that even indiginous people who are perfectly used to extreme climates will not survive if the working conditions are barbaric enough.
 
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No, special deliveries are delivered on foot, unless they are huge...

I'm finished now, just got to take van back to the depot and come home....

I stink.
 
green fields of france and the band played waltzing matilda. the american economy relies on war and I 'd say the british economy does too. Incidentally, switzerland, a neutral country in the middle what's all that about?

I don't know what it's all about. what makes the poppies grow? BLOOD BLOOD BLOOD. what shall we do to the enemy KILL KILL KILL.
 
Mailmonkey said:
No, special deliveries are delivered on foot, unless they are huge...
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That's fucked up man. I guess the only way to make sure would be to order like 5 packs or something. Its not good a good thing for me to have too much nitrous lying around anyway - brings the innate fiend out in my. That said its hardly the mostly crippling of addictions and is much cleaner than ether IMO. I generally just use solvents to get me back to sleep if i wake up at night, especially if I'm on a withdrawal and my legs have gone all dead and suff.
 
Swarm said:
They also train at altitude before the fight which means that their blood jam packed with oxygen.
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Well, the idea of training at altitude is for the body to become accustomed to performing in absence of oxygen, similar to a fight where you have limited air intake because of your gum shield and the environment.

But this is quite different to the case here, because the boxer can choose to quit the session any time they wish.
 
so how're you getting on mailmonkey, passed a postie meself the other day, with the sun beating down - felt somewhat sorry for the guy


you aint yamming stims to get you through or owt stupid like that am ya? if you are, at least let me know so i can loot your house in good order upon being told of your sweaty demise
 
raas_2012 said:
Well, the idea of training at altitude is for the body to become accustomed to performing in absence of oxygen, similar to a fight where you have limited air intake because of your gum shield and the environment.
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(Just a quick heads up - the fourth paragraph down maybe a little stomach turning for some people).

Absence of oxygen sure, and how do we get oxygen to our vitals? Through the bloodstream. When you get dehydrated your blood volume reduces - called hypovolaemia - and doesn't circulate around the body so easily.

Thats why prior training at altitude can help you should you become dehydrated. Even though your blood isn't circulating particularly fast, the increased amount of oxygen in the blood makes up for this. To give an example, Juan Manuel Marquez trains at 10, 000 feet in the mountains above mexico city many times in preparation for a fight in Vegas Nervada - approximately see level.

This is why I dropped in that placebo track "haemoglobin" incidentally, but I wasn't sure if people would get it or not.

Hypovolaemia from dehydration constitutes a low oxygen environment. Having to wear a gum shield doesn't though - I leave mine in when I go running all the time. What produces a low oxygen environment in boxing is having to go another 6 rounds with a broken nose. Boxers don't like to breath through their mouths as an open mouth can easily leave you with a broken jaw - (you actually want to bite down on your shield hard when you take a shot). However if your nose is full of blood you got no choice but to breathe through your mouth- only trouble is that the blood also collects inside your mouth and throat and can stop you breathing that way too. That's why the cutman uses the minute between rounds to push those swabs right up inside the fighter's nose. Those swabs are dipped in adrenaline solution, which helps stop the bleeding.

Training at altitude doesn't just negate the ill effects of a low oxygen environment, but works equally well at increasing your ability to perform in a standard or typical environment. Its the legal version of blood doping, where track athletes of by gone eras would extract blood 2 weeks prior to a race, let their volume return to natural levels, and then inject the extra blood back into their circulation to increase their red blood cell count. Ill advised due to the fact that you end up with too much blood in your system if you don't do it right. It does work though.
 
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