Differences between American and European drug culture

[drug_mentor]

What I have never really understood is the militant hate towards mixing tobacco and weed that comes from a lot of purists. Fair enough if you don't enjoy it, but I see so many people saying shit like it is an abomination and you are tainting your herb and it is a waste, etc. etc. I really don't get why certain people are so concerned with how other people choose to enjoy their cannabis. I have never encountered anyone who mixed cannabis and tobacco who seemed offended at the notion of smoking cannabis on its own but online it seems I often run into this attitude coming from pure cannabis smokers against those who mix. (Not saying this is you purplekush just generally speaking)

 

[Tryptamino]

I smoke my weed with tobacco almost 100% of the time and i'm american

 

[shimazu]

I don't personally mix rolling tobacco with weed in a blunt, kind of puts a damper on each hit IMO

I also don't care how other people smoke either, especially since I don't even really smoke it much myself anymore

 

[PurpleKush1]

What I have never really understood is the militant hate towards mixing tobacco and weed that comes from a lot of purists. Fair enough if you don't enjoy it, but I see so many people saying shit like it is an abomination and you are tainting your herb and it is a waste, etc. etc. I really don't get why certain people are so concerned with how other people choose to enjoy their cannabis. I have never encountered anyone who mixed cannabis and tobacco who seemed offended at the notion of smoking cannabis on its own but online it seems I often run into this attitude coming from pure cannabis smokers against those who mix. (Not saying this is you purplekush just generally speaking)

Oh no dont get me wrong, i respect other people who mix them together, well xcept for some of my european buddies who mix a quarter of a G with a a cig and a half and roll it in king sized paper L because they want a long joint and its pretty much a nasty fat cig lol. Tbh, i find it gives a dirtier high, ruins the weed taste and it fucks up my lungs alot more then just a joint of pure followed by a cig. Maybe because of the no filter on the cig. I dont even smoke anymore because it makes me go in a panic state for days since i ate a roll that was some toxic weapon, but when i did i simply chose not to smoke with people who mix in tobacco when i had weed.

But i have to admit, when i smoked, and i was a straight pothead, minimum an eigth of dank a day, if more then more a day lol, and when i didnt have money and had to wait to get some, i did some fiendish shit. I would heat up the stem of the bong to make the resin come out and smoke out of the bong again, also would roll roaches with a bit of tobacco. I fucking hated that taste, but i was trying to relax while i got the real shit. THe nastiest ive done, and that happened one time and never will again, was smoking a joint that consisted of weed roaches mixed with indian contraba cigs, i puked because of the fucking taste. But this was in tough moments, i never mixed with baccy when i had a choice.

I don't personally mix rolling tobacco with weed in a blunt, kind of puts a damper on each hit IMO

I also don't care how other people smoke either, especially since I don't even really smoke it much myself anymore

I have to say, the only thing that worked for me that included tobacco and weed mixed together was a blunt. But just weed and the baccy paper, mixing weed and tobacco while rolling it a blunt paper is like level 10000000 of abomination for me. I made the mistake to give a gram to a guy from europe, to roll in a blunt. Well i go get some vodka, i come back and the mother fucker put like .4 - .5 in it with me and added like more then a cig. I demanded the money back for the gram. Yes i am a dick when you fuck with me. He told me he would cut the same thing as me, seeing as he had double my weeed, and not put any tobacco. GOt my money back and never heard from his dumb ass again lol.

 

[One Thousand Words]

Tobacco or not, Americans generally roll rubbish joints compared to most europeans. European spliffs are tight trumpets with a decent roach that hold their shape for the whole smoke. Most American joints are soggy, limp affairs by the time they reach the end.

In a lot of Europe bongs are considered very ghetto. Personally I would prefer to sit at the bow of a yacht and share a spliff than pass a bong back and worth.

European...

American

 

[shimazu]

ok bro

not even going to get trolled on that one

blunts > joints anyway

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

Tobacco or not, Americans generally roll rubbish joints compared to most europeans. European spliffs are tight trumpets with a decent roach that hold their shape for the whole smoke. Most American joints are soggy, limp affairs by the time they reach the end.

In a lot of Europe bongs are considered very ghetto. Personally I would prefer to sit at the bow of a yacht and share a spliff than pass a bong back and worth.

European...

American

I won't contest that Euro's are better rollers, they just roll more often. This French kid was in town showin off his one-handed rolls. I even had him draw up a bunch of spliffs for me. And yeah, Americans love our bongs and glassware in general (although I've noticed some black guys will have negative associates with crack when it comes to anything glass. I got told I was smokin out of a glass dick in college by some black hall mates too and most wouldn't touch it, was later explained to me that the kids dad was a crack addict).

But you can't get around that fact, that a pure joint, rolled well, to the average person (not a Euro whose body is 14% nicotine and dirt already) will taste better. Tobacco is more of an acquired taste, just like alcohol. Weed can taste like fucking blueberries if you get the right med grade. Baccy and alcohol aren't suppose to taste good but eventually do because your body eventually associates the good feeling drug along with the shit taste.

And don't even hate on bongs, they do their job well.

 

[shimazu]

Germany does make a damn good vaporizer that's for true

 

[weekend addiction]

^Yes they do. Why isn't big pharma making sure Europe gets plenty of medication?

 

[PurpleKush1]

Tobacco or not, Americans generally roll rubbish joints compared to most europeans. European spliffs are tight trumpets with a decent roach that hold their shape for the whole smoke. Most American joints are soggy, limp affairs by the time they reach the end.

In a lot of Europe bongs are considered very ghetto. Personally I would prefer to sit at the bow of a yacht and share a spliff than pass a bong back and worth.

European...

American

I agree that joints are better than bongs, but my joint look exactly like the one in the first picture, only sometimes it has less than cone shap when i feel like it. I always use a mouth piece at the end of the joint. But not like europeans, i put it last. LIke i roll my joint in the paper,then i cut some cardboard and roll it very thigh, so my mouthpiece is thight and no weed goes trough.

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

Germany does make a damn good vaporizer that's for true

And lets not forget RooR was founded by a German glass blower.

It's funny Euro's aren't into bongs as much... while most every American stoner yearns for a top of the line RooR bong, even if they're overrpriced. I even has a $500 RooR stolen from me while I wasn't home, a fucking break in, and I can't really think of anything else of value stolen off me ever.

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

I have never encountered anyone who mixed cannabis and tobacco who seemed offended at the notion of smoking cannabis on its own but online it seems I often run into this attitude coming from pure cannabis smokers against those who mix. (Not saying this is you purplekush just generally speaking)

I guess there's two reasons to mix.

1. You just like to mix and really like tobacco
2. You're cheap/don't have much money/don't have much weed

Now with 2., you can even see Euro's picking on other Euro's who do a 70/30 or more mix that's mostly tobacco. It's cheaper and you get less stoned.

And when you say words like "abomination" (I used that one), you have to realize this "militant hate" is more "tongue-in-cheek" than anything. You're an Aussie... this America/Europe ragging on each other thing goes far back and beyond how we like our weed.

 

[PurpleKush1]

I guess there's two reasons to mix.

1. You just like to mix and really like tobacco
2. You're cheap/don't have much money/don't have much weed

Now with 2., you can even see Euro's picking on other Euro's who do a 70/30 or more mix that's mostly tobacco. It's cheaper and you get less stoned.

And when you say words like "abomination" (I used that one), you have to realize this "militant hate" is more "tongue-in-cheek" than anything. You're an Aussie... this America/Europe ragging on each other thing goes far back and beyond how we like our weed.

IMO anything thats above 60 weed 40 tobacco is an abomination hahaha weed is suposed to be smoked alone, well except if your low on weed or cash then i think it justifies it ...

 

[Fuzati]

As a frog who spent 3 years ins the USA for my studies (and before that, 1 years in Hollad) , I met quite a bunch of smokers.
A good portion of muricans, would roll fat, ugly joint with pure weed that wouldn't consume properly (and these "dudes" had been smoking or years, blew my mind), I concur. But after they smoked a spliff most of them changed their habits.
It was kind of cute, like in a "ah, silly americans..." kind of way.

Oh, and muricans can't hit the bong for shit. What's the point of doing a bong if it's not the real way (aka the european way) of smoking it, all in one big drag?
That kind of shit wouldn't fly in Paris.

Bisous de France

 

[One Thousand Words]

I agree that joints are better than bongs, but my joint look exactly like the one in the first picture, only sometimes it has less than cone shap when i feel like it. I always use a mouth piece at the end of the joint. But not like europeans, i put it last. LIke i roll my joint in the paper,then i cut some cardboard and roll it very thigh, so my mouthpiece is thight and no weed goes trough.

If you mixed a little tobacco in with your spliff it would burn better and you wouldn't have to suck it like a thick shake, thus eliminating any draw through the roach

All this talk of how wonderful the taste of cannabis is obviously from someone who has never tasted bong water. It is no chocolate brownie no matter how much hippy bullshit you try and sprout.

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

Oh, and muricans can't hit the bong for shit.

Good weed is plentiful in the land of excess. Not internationally smuggled up someone's ass. We can spare the ass end.

What's the point of doing a bong if it's not the real way (aka the european way) of smoking it, all in one big drag?
That kind of shit wouldn't fly in Paris.

Bisous de France

That might be the European way, but isn't the French way to bathe in the bong water after? No waste. You know, get yourself smellin a bit better for the week.

 

[Fuzati]

Good weed is plentiful in the land of excess. Not internationally smuggled up someone's ass. We can spare the ass end.

I meant that your fat asses probably can't take a proper hit a from the bong because of your "mu freedum-of-eating-sugary-shit-all-day-incapacited breathing/stamina/" .
Finishing the bong with one hit is the superior way, the European way.
Sorry (well i'm not all that sorry at all, but you know) if my english is confusing.

 

[NerdOnDrugs]

I meant that your fat asses probably can't take a proper hit a from the bong because of your "mu freedum-of-eating-sugary-shit-all-day-incapacited breathing/stamina/" .
Finishing the bong with one hit is the superior way, the European way.
Sorry (well i'm not all that sorry at all, but you know) if my english is confusing.

Why are the French always the least funny when they try to be..

Can I get a Brit to make a better comeback? He's just going to surrender anyways.

 

[shimazu]

we didnt roll joints in my group of associates it was always a blunt

Fuzati youre sounding like a complete douche fyi, a lot of people don't know how to really smoke weed properly I could find plenty of French people who do the same shit

 

[SirTophamHat]

the purpose of rolling tobacco in papers is to slow the roll and get it to burn more evenly... any stoner over the age of 13 knows that pure weed joints are unpredictable and not worth the smoke they're rolled with. in my own opinion of course the taste of a bacco/pot mix is superior to either by themself anyways. putting additional tobacco in a blunt makes no sense, the tobacco is already in the leaf. you're fucking up the ratio doin it like that and it's not even fun to smoke...

it was not my intention to start another amero-euro shitfest i just wanted to point out that you dont have to live in europe to appreciate the almighty spliff.