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PRISM stuffs

Snowden is now being arrested under "espionage" charges. He looked at the data that the government gathers and that makes him a spy...
 
But... He was a spy... That was his actual job... For the same employers who are now charging him with... doing his job properly... :sus::?:sus::?:sus:

Are they also gonna charge all their other employees or is he just a special snowflake? :D

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Marmalade said:
Jebus christmas, it's all 'appening.

The Guardian just posted a video of their interview with the whistleblower, Ed Snowden, who just came forward. What a national fucking treasure. Big lubs to the guy <3



Anyways, interesting stuff all round. Very much looking forward to hearing Hague deny any involvement or knowledge of, tomorrow, lulz ... he was meant to be visiting the states tomorrow apparently but the US cancelled ... 'UK embassy in DC says our tea with foreign secretary William Hague tomorrow is off due to 'Parliamentary business at home' .. hah!

The Guardian coverage is fucking awesome on a minute by minute basis as usual for major news breaks.

Thoughts, opinions, predictions?

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I lol'd SO HARD at that meme.

But yeah it's a long time coming.

They can nab your fingerprints, audio, video, etc. AD INFINITUM from your phones as well as unsecure email addresses at their wish. Been doing so for a long time.

Search "Remote Access Terminal."
And those are just perverts who download programs to fuck with you.


Imagine the capability the worlds largest spy agencies could do.

Well, that's why I've been booting pendrive linux OS's in truecrypt and operating on VPN's in darknet for 2 years now. Lord knows what even THAT gives them, I'm sure they're far more advanced than we could even imagine.

Guess it's back to cave paintings and navaho code for the good fight, folks, eh?
 
as I have said a million times on here, I would not touch TOR with a bargepole, and here is one of several reasons why :

"Using online anonymity services such as Tor or sending encrypted e-mail and instant messages are grounds for U.S.-based communications to be retained by the National Security Agency, even when they're collected inadvertently, according to a secret government document published Thursday. ...The memos outline procedures NSA analysts must follow to ensure they stay within the mandate of minimizing data collected on U.S. citizens and residents. While the documents make clear that data collection and interception must cease immediately once it's determined a target is within the U.S., they still provide analysts with a fair amount of leeway. And that leeway seems to work to the disadvantage of people who take steps to protect their Internet communications from prying eyes. For instance, a person whose physical location is unknown—which more often than not is the case when someone uses anonymity software from the Tor Project—"will not be treated as a United States person, unless such person can be positively identified as such, or the nature or circumstances of the person's communications give rise to a reasonable belief that such person is a United States person," the secret document stated.'"
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;)
 
Nice. And he absolutely is a national hero. They don't have many honest-to-goodness heroes over there at the best of times but somehow I doubt their government see it that way and all the signatures in the world won't make a damn bit of difference cos he's gonna be butffukked beyond belief when they get their hands on him :\
 
Could it be that Gareth Brown was going to let the cat out of the bag on this one (Tempora) before it was 'fully operational' and ended up stuck inside a bag instead?
David Cameron had the task of informing Putin in Sochi about the upcoming 'revelations.' To which Putin said "no problem Dave, we've found all the data you've been collecting highly informative. The Chinese also send their regards." ;)
 
Gareth Williams was 31 years old when his body was discovered in a padlocked sports holdall submerged in 'a fluid' in the bath of his top (3rd) floor flat at 36, Alderney Street, Pimlico, London Map on the afternoon of 23 August 2010. He had last been see alive in London on 15 August 2010. Police reported that the body "was in an advanced state of decay" when found and this made establishing the cause of death problematical. A 2012 review concluded that he 'probably locked himself into sports bag'.
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Hahahahahaa! Cos people padlock themselves inside holdalls then drown themselves in baths filled with "fluid" all the time :D

And in TMN update news, it's still mostly searching for crappy female pop stars and actresses, cars, US airlines and stuff... but the current one is pure gold: "enslaving the disabled" =D
 
Shambles said:
Hahahahahaa! Cos people padlock themselves inside holdalls then drown themselves in baths filled with "fluid" all the time :D

And in TMN update news, it's still mostly searching for crappy female pop stars and actresses, cars, US airlines and stuff... but the current one is pure gold: "enslaving the disabled" =D
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Ha ha. Mine knows me well. "Zimmerman real Listing with" Zimermann = creator of PGP and ZRTP
 
Ceres said:
as I have said a million times on here, I would not touch TOR with a bargepole, and here is one of several reasons why :
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I ran a very high traffic exit node for a number of years. I think it's a great project, but far from perfect. In combination with other technologies it is highly effective against 'blanket surveillance' IMO. The more mud in the water, the better. As you have stated many times, the technology isn't the weak link, it is generally the human interacting with it. TOR is actively developed and is constantly improving. Trusting you secrets with it isn't a good idea. Be smart.
 
hahah fuck running an exit node. Good for spying on people ;) , not so good if you end up having childporn running through it. I believe someone was arrested in australia last year for that very reason.
 
Ceres said:
hahah fuck running an exit node. Good for spying on people ;) , not so good if you end up having childporn running through it. I believe someone was arrested in australia last year for that very reason.
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Safe harbour principle applies in this case. Otherwise ISP would also be held accountable. I have dealt with a number of complaints in my time.
 
tragiclemming said:
Ha ha. Mine knows me well. "Zimmerman real Listing with" Zimermann = creator of PGP and ZRTP
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Do you have to use Google (or the other search engines it uses - I have it set to just Google though as that's the only one I've ever used regularly before) in order for it to "learn" your preferences and tailor its searches a bit? I've hardly used Google recently cos been trying that StartPage one I mentioned earlier of late instead (which it turns out is pretty good and am quite happy to continue using it rather than Google itself). Or does it go for what sites you look at? Or D) None of the above? Cos mine seems to still think I'm mostly an American teenage boy. Although it's chucking in a few that seem to fit the kinda stuff I've been browsing of late - largely in relation to this thread, as it happens. Although searching for "John McAfee NSFW" when I was posting in the peev thread was almost spooky in terms of pure comedy sychronicity :D
 
Shambles said:
Do you have to use Google (or the other search engines it uses - I have it set to just Google though as that's the only one I've ever used regularly before) in order for it to "learn" your preferences and tailor its searches a bit? I've hardly used Google recently cos been trying that StartPage one I mentioned earlier of late instead (which it turns out is pretty good and am quite happy to continue using it rather than Google itself). Or does it go for what sites you look at? Or D) None of the above? Cos mine seems to still think I'm mostly an American teenage boy. Although it's chucking in a few that seem to fit the kinda stuff I've been browsing of late - largely in relation to this thread, as it happens. Although searching for "John McAfee NSFW" when I was posting in the peev thread was almost spooky in terms of pure comedy sychronicity :D
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It uses an RSS feed to build the keyword queries from. I have mine set to use Al Jazeera & Khaama Press (Afghan) among others. The helicopters keep flying over, but none have landed yet insha'Allah.
 
Doh! Of course it does. I even saw it in the options but didn't occur to me to change it even though it was mostly all US media stuff 8)

Got rid of the shitiest ones and added a few bobz I found pottering about on http://www.rsssearchhub.com/ - eyes got bigger than belly quite quickly so had to stop looking for more. Although I guess the more the better in terms of throwing up random oddities. At least to a point. Am now all excited about what it's gonna go looking for next :D

Think I'll celebrate every search that makes me actually properly snigger by coating Gideon Bibles in ricin and leaving them at airports and stuff <3
 
what you should do is find some of those terrorist magazines and download them repeatedly and share them on bit torrent

(or maybe not, they put people in jail for that shit)
 
Ha! Occasionally spewing ridiculously dubious faux absolutely real threats of global terrorism (in this thread and nowhere else due to being a bit of a pussy) is as edgy as I get in when it comes to stuff like that ;)

I do really like the idea of adding random trigger words/phrases to any and all communications just to swamp the buggers. Whether it would actually do owt beyond minor irritation at best I don't know but presume probably not. Not unless vast numbers of people were doing it anyway. But if they want to have access to every communication anybody makes ever then let them have it. Would take balls and/or gross stupidity to make a habit of it, unfortunately. Which presumably is the point of creating so much fear around having to watch what you say to try (and quite probably fail) to end up on some watchlist somewhere simply for exercising free speech.
 
they probably actually look at peoples communications based on who they are communicating with or otherwise linked to, mapping networks of people etc. there would be so many false positives with keyword triggers it would just be unmanagable. I believe this has been a complaint since 11/09 NYC attack and the setting up of 'intelligence fusion centers' in the US.

in the UK with GCHQ id imagine they have a lot of input from places like SOCA or MI5 in terms of information sharing and improving the efficiency of their intelligence work.

have a look at cryptome.org if you haven't already. lots of goodies on there.
 
That makes much more sense actually, Ceres. Have never been totally convinced about the whole keywords thing. Had no end of people over the years trying to convince me that there are certain keywords (mostly IRA 'n' bombs 'n' that but also anything to do with drugs) you mustn't say on the phone cos it triggers... stuff. Always assumed such things must be bollocks. Although I guess it would be more doable now with digital communications, mass data storage and better voice recognition technology and the like. Doable but still seems somewhat unlikely if only cos you'd end up with ridiculous amounts of dross to sift through.

Also, nice linky - all sorts of interesting-looking intelligencey stuff then suddenly a block of random pr0npix. My kinda site - masha’Allah! :D

EDIT: First TMN search that's tickled me fancy since changing the source feeds: "Marijuana crops threaten Californian forests" :D
 
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Skynet rising: Google acquires 512-qubit quantum computer; NSA surveillance to be turned over to AI machines

Reese: Defense network computers. New... powerful... hooked into everything, trusted to run it all. They say it got smart, a new order of intelligence. Then it saw all people as a threat, not just the ones on the other side. Decided our fate in a microsecond: extermination.
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Sarah Connor: What did he just say?

Gas Station Attendant: He said there's a storm coming in.

Sarah Connor: [sighs] I know.
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