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[MEGA] Cannabis Addiction & Withdrawal
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the.nimble.pig
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I'd honestly err on the side of caution. All drugs are drugs. Absolutely everything psychoactive is a drug. All drugs have a good and bad side. Whilst it sounds like your experiencing the good side the truth is if you are a true addict you're not just going to be able to drop it like you seem to think. There's gonna be mega cravings, the rationalisations (I'll function better with a bowl anyways, who will even notice if I have a little bit at least I wont be a grump ect), there's gonna be probably a slight depression as you come back to normal from what friends of mine have said about it. Whilst whether or not marijuanna is PHYSICALLY addictive has been debated it is definitely psychologically addictive. I'd recommend spending at least a fortnight going slowly back to sober before you need to. Otherwise good luck 
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Spoken like a long term traveller. The OP would be wise to heed this advice as cannabis is psychologically addictive to some people (myself included).
Foreigner
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I view cannabis as an entheogenic medicine that is powerful and needs to be respected. It's not just some drug for me to get fucked up on because it feels good. I have very productive and meaningful inner dialogue after smoking, or outer dialogue if I'm with a good friend. I might go through a period where I need this medicine to integrate something in my life that I'm having trouble processing, or because I'm having social anxiety and need the novelty effect to see new ways through it. Other times, it's just for relaxation. Whatever the reason, I certainly have justification for short-term intensive use when need be.
Lately I've been smoking single tokes before going out and dealing with people, and it has helped me. Other times, I feel like smoking a lot so that I get to the point where my logic and reason are put aside and I can deal just with abstract consciousness.
It's always good to stop and ask yourself if you're becoming too dependent, but you also have to weigh that question with your intended uses. Look at the actual evidence of your use. Are you just getting fucked up and not dealing with anything? Is your day to day quality of life changing in negative ways? In those cases, maybe your use is not justified. But who am I to say? Sometimes getting lost is the best way to find yourself, I can't really judge another person's use.
Though, if you're asking people on a forum if your addiction is justified, then maybe you aren't so sure.
Lately I've been smoking single tokes before going out and dealing with people, and it has helped me. Other times, I feel like smoking a lot so that I get to the point where my logic and reason are put aside and I can deal just with abstract consciousness.
It's always good to stop and ask yourself if you're becoming too dependent, but you also have to weigh that question with your intended uses. Look at the actual evidence of your use. Are you just getting fucked up and not dealing with anything? Is your day to day quality of life changing in negative ways? In those cases, maybe your use is not justified. But who am I to say? Sometimes getting lost is the best way to find yourself, I can't really judge another person's use.
Though, if you're asking people on a forum if your addiction is justified, then maybe you aren't so sure.
Darksidesam
Bluelight Crew
Hey, im also an every day smoker,
Something important to realise is that at some point your tolerance will probably overtake and then you wont be able to afford your habit, so you will either have to cut back or if not just take breaks.
I do agree with you though that smoking weed is probably more better for you than taking anti depressants, or doing other drugs. How are your lungs? i just bought a nice new bong and i say vaporizers and bongs both kick arse.
Something important to realise is that at some point your tolerance will probably overtake and then you wont be able to afford your habit, so you will either have to cut back or if not just take breaks.
I do agree with you though that smoking weed is probably more better for you than taking anti depressants, or doing other drugs. How are your lungs? i just bought a nice new bong and i say vaporizers and bongs both kick arse.
Bob Loblaw
Bluelight Crew
Legit addiction doesn't quite work so you get fucked up all the time & then just stop when you feel like it. Though I don't really believe in cannabis addiction, so I'm not sure how this applies to you.
Darksidesam
Bluelight Crew
I dunno i use vaporizers, and follow my gut feeling, and my usage is not large amounts all of the time, just small use most of the time.
With cannabis you can honestly use or it abuse it.
OP does your appetite decrease when you stop toking? what about your sleep patterns and lastly your stress/ mood ?
With cannabis you can honestly use or it abuse it.
OP does your appetite decrease when you stop toking? what about your sleep patterns and lastly your stress/ mood ?
londoner81
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I did say I'm addicted. I'm dependent on smoking first thing in the morning to wake up and feel decent, and dependent on continuing to smoke every 2-3 hours throughout the day until last thing at night. Last time I tried a T-break (which I could only manage for three days) my appetite was substantially diminished.
xx001
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You are going to have to take a break of a least a week in order to learn more about the nature of your "addiction". If you find that you go through withdrawals and/or strong cravings, that might be a sign to lighten up on your usage and keep your tolerance down. You will likely find it helpful to taper off of the drug over the course of a few weeks to reduce these effects when you do finally decide to quit.
Weed affects everyone differently. Some people find it psychologically addictive and some don't, even if they love the effects. Some people experience withdrawal symptoms after regular use others don't. I have gone through periods of time of smoking multiple times a day, every day for several months and then suddenly stopping for about the same amount of time with no negative effects. The first day or two seemed a bit boring, but there were no cravings or withdrawal symptoms. Hopefully you will have the same experience when you quit.
I don't smoke as often as I used to anymore. Now I will use daily for a month at a time at most and then try to take a month off. I like to keep my tolerance down. Toking up every day is still nice, but I find it is more enjoyable to get higher but with less frequency. It seems more novel and enjoyable that way.(not to mention cheaper) I weed was legal and more socially acceptable, this might be a different story though.
Weed affects everyone differently. Some people find it psychologically addictive and some don't, even if they love the effects. Some people experience withdrawal symptoms after regular use others don't. I have gone through periods of time of smoking multiple times a day, every day for several months and then suddenly stopping for about the same amount of time with no negative effects. The first day or two seemed a bit boring, but there were no cravings or withdrawal symptoms. Hopefully you will have the same experience when you quit.
I don't smoke as often as I used to anymore. Now I will use daily for a month at a time at most and then try to take a month off. I like to keep my tolerance down. Toking up every day is still nice, but I find it is more enjoyable to get higher but with less frequency. It seems more novel and enjoyable that way.(not to mention cheaper) I weed was legal and more socially acceptable, this might be a different story though.
Scottadone
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I have an interesting 'theory' i guess you'd call it, but it's pretty obvious. Being a methadone/opiate addict, I found myself strangely addicted to marijuana. Clearly I know the difference between a physical and 'mental addiction', which i always considered as bullshit as I never had a problem or withdrawal symptom after months of use of every mentally addictive substance. But marijuana I hate to say it, can be extremely addictive if you're already an addict. I was smoking 2 - 6g daily strictly through bong which isn't even THAT much, but the irritability was still the most prominent 'withdrawal' symptom. However, also being a smoker/nicotine addict, the irritability + opiate rage of not being baked was sometimes overwhelming. Other than that, it was pretty standard. Couldn't eat or sleep unless stoned. However the main difference I noticed now being a stoner junkie vs. just a stoner, is that I was also very nauseous with vomitting, body temperature wasn't regulating with goose bumps, and other things evident of opiate wd, though I was on my methadone so I knew it was the bud.
Basically, the cannabis 'withdrawal' greatly exasperated feeling shitty from other addictions.
Basically, the cannabis 'withdrawal' greatly exasperated feeling shitty from other addictions.
Yes, and I'm ecstatic that after voicing a vague observation I was proven completely wrong.
I think he was trying to make an independent assessment and/or help a person (in this case, you) think through their position with variables he or she may not have considered before making this thread.
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What the...? When'd you get a modstick, Foreigner? Don't get me wrong, I feel like you're a great person in that position but I just haven't noticed that Mod-status next to your name until just now.
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Foreigner
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^ Couple month's ago or so...
True shit. Well I'm glad you're one of the Chosen Few.
Didn't even see this before I made my last post. Fucking right I've been on the road forever, and lately I've been Flintstoning it without being able to stop. My feet ache, I can barely hold the damn car up anymore and my voice is hoarse from all the "Yabba-dabba-doob's!"
It's strange, I love weed.... but if I could go back to 2001 and change one thing, it would be refraining from indulging for the first time. I would never, however, under any circumstances intentionally go into any kind of addiction knowing that addiction was the outcome. That's akin to voluntary and personal enslavement, in my mind, to an inanimate object. My two cents are that it's a fucking stupid thing to do, but, you know, as they say on all those TVland 50's/60's shows: boys will be boys.
Didn't even see this before I made my last post. Fucking right I've been on the road forever, and lately I've been Flintstoning it without being able to stop. My feet ache, I can barely hold the damn car up anymore and my voice is hoarse from all the "Yabba-dabba-doob's!"
It's strange, I love weed.... but if I could go back to 2001 and change one thing, it would be refraining from indulging for the first time. I would never, however, under any circumstances intentionally go into any kind of addiction knowing that addiction was the outcome. That's akin to voluntary and personal enslavement, in my mind, to an inanimate object. My two cents are that it's a fucking stupid thing to do, but, you know, as they say on all those TVland 50's/60's shows: boys will be boys.
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^ I know what you mean by if you could go back to 2001 (1992 for me). I have found there is a distinct difference between those who indulged heavily in their teen years & those who started in adulthood in the way they abuse cannabis.
Darksidesam
Bluelight Crew
i consider myself addicted, however i can wait for hours before a toke usually. I dont have to smoke as soon as i get up, what makes me end up toking 9/10 is nausea so i smoke to get rid of it,
best advice to you is to get down to a certain amount a week and cut back.
So many people are heavy tokers then try and quit just like that overnight.
I really dont think cannabis addiction works like that i have never personally seen that method work ever. I admit myself, that when i smoke less (but not none!) then i am overall more happier, and i get a lot more done. But Its very easy to warrant that overindulgence i know.. .lol
best advice to you is to get down to a certain amount a week and cut back.
So many people are heavy tokers then try and quit just like that overnight.
I really dont think cannabis addiction works like that i have never personally seen that method work ever. I admit myself, that when i smoke less (but not none!) then i am overall more happier, and i get a lot more done. But Its very easy to warrant that overindulgence i know.. .lol
rave_itsrealfun!!!
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Found this to be the case for many people, including myself. When I first smoke I almost immediately began smoking constantly. Did that for a long time, it wasn't until the side effects ramped up that I slowed down. I didn't notice any withdrawal symptoms, but many of the times I quit smoking marijuana it had taken a back seat to other more dangerous substances. I have said it before but for years I considering just smoking and drinking (rather then using other things as well) to be "doing good". Looking back on that I was just "doing better because I was not using downers". That is obviously a very different then then having ones shit together. At the time, I was in college and doing very well with little responsibilities. So I was able to get away with this routine for years. Go to class, go to library and finish work, get home have a puff and a few beers while watching TV. Wake up and repeat. That doesn't work anymore and I do find myself feeling nostalgic for those days sometimes.
For many years I needed bud and like 2 beers to be able to sleep. To be honest, if it was legal I would use cannabis as a sleep aid more frequently. I have found that nothing works better and I refuse to get on things like ambien (though I have tried other sleeping meds).
To the OP - It sounds like you are discovering cannabis and enjoying it. However, it being a mind altering substance, it can cause negative consequences if abused. I am a huge legalization advocate, but I am not one of those who pretends marijuana does not have downsides too it.
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^ agreed, after a while weed wasn't giving me that euphoric high, it'd get me high but it wasn't really pleasurable. I would then go on my journey to find new drugs and of course mix those with weed but that's another story.
What you need to know about 'weed addiction' is it is real but it is all psychological. A strong psychological addiction that is, it is pretty harmless on the body but can be harmful on the mind when used extremely heavily. I remember i started to feel loopy after a while, i would lash out and get angry when i wasn't high, anxiety went up, became more anti social, less motivated etc. These are all things to look out for with weed 'addiction' the good part is it takes a long long time of smoking to get all those negative side effects.
So it is always good to take a few days break in between to clear some of that mental fog and haziness. Another danger with weed is , as everyone thinks... o its a plant it's harmless. That encourages them to keep smoking for as long as they can. And even when they notice a negative impact on their life , they still put it off and ignore it which is where it can be a harmful substance. Have fun.
What you need to know about 'weed addiction' is it is real but it is all psychological. A strong psychological addiction that is, it is pretty harmless on the body but can be harmful on the mind when used extremely heavily. I remember i started to feel loopy after a while, i would lash out and get angry when i wasn't high, anxiety went up, became more anti social, less motivated etc. These are all things to look out for with weed 'addiction' the good part is it takes a long long time of smoking to get all those negative side effects.
So it is always good to take a few days break in between to clear some of that mental fog and haziness. Another danger with weed is , as everyone thinks... o its a plant it's harmless. That encourages them to keep smoking for as long as they can. And even when they notice a negative impact on their life , they still put it off and ignore it which is where it can be a harmful substance. Have fun.