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[MEGA] Cannabis Addiction & Withdrawal

Yeah I used to be a weed addict. People think there isn't a such thing, disagree. When weed begins to become your coping skill for everything is when it becomes a problem. Also a common misconception is that weed doesn't make you slow.. Well that is true, but when your smoking damn 10 blunts a day your gonna be retated all day. Moral of the post, use it as a reward, not as something to cope with.
 
^ definitely use it as reward, not as an escape for boredom. And hell yea weed makes you slow, stoners just never like to admit it haha. Learning new things and short term memory go out the window!
 
F1n1shed said:
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Whoa... so you're pretty much in a state of perpetual ignorance, huh? Shitty deal, man. I'd like to point out that just because you stopped learning new things does not mean you've lost the ability-- it's a choice, much like your choice to smoke weed.


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Jibult said:
Whoa... so you're pretty much in a state of perpetual ignorance, huh? Shitty deal, man. I'd like to point out that just because you stopped learning new things does not mean you've lost the ability-- it's a choice, much like your choice to smoke weed.


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Long term weed use affects (in most people) your ability to process thoughts, to learn new things, your critical thinking skills, your memory, etc. It is not a choice. It is ignorant to assume otherwise.

I have been told these effects fade however until you are normal again. I believe this to be true. Let's hope that I am right.
 
At the moment I cannot go over one day without weed.
In its absence I stress out massively and get panic attacks.
It is a cure to all of my ailments but I dont want to be foggy brained forever.
 
GenericName12 said:
Long term weed use affects (in most people) your ability to process thoughts, to learn new things, your critical thinking skills, your memory, etc. It is not a choice. It is ignorant to assume otherwise.

I have been told these effects fade however until you are normal again. I believe this to be true. Let's hope that I am right.
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It's most definitely a choice to not make an effort to learn something new everyday. Education doesn't just happen, you know-- you have to put an effort into it.


Anecdotal reference: I secured an AAS in Criminology and an additional AS in business administration in 5 consecutive semesters. I also obtained several letters of recommendation/merit and certificates of program completions, all in conjunction with my doubled-down majors (albeit on an Associate degree level). It's of importance in this conversation to note that I only remember being sober throughout the 5 semesters for two separate weeks (a week-long event called Riot Week that I attended on two occasions. Fun shit if you don't mind getting shot with baby powder "bullets" and mace while you try and beat the hell out of armed guards that are trying desperately to subdue the riot. There were a bunch of other things as well throughout the week but the actual riot was the best part both years.) Other than that? Smoked out day and night, before class and after.

Upon commencement, I was denied enlistment into the military due to my documented drug use. The CJ degree was foolish of me to pursue and I haven't done a damn thing with it. So, I got a job at Valvoline not knowing shit about cars. 7 months later I was assistant manager. That's hard to do when you can't learn anything, huh? A confrontation with a customer lost me that job (no details, sorry), so I picked up a job at UPS with the hope that I'll be able to put my business degree to use. Turnover rate is ridiculous and I managed to secure a week-long spot at Integrad for driver training so that I can be a cover air driver when the need in my hub arises and I still retain my initial position for when I can't drive. Fuck working on cars, I had to learn a retarded amount of depth of knowledge and DOT regulations/laws just to be qualified to drive a UPS package car.

Now, I say all that not to bore you to death as I'm sure I already have, but to illustrate the fact that if you're not learning things while you smoke weed, it's because you're choosing not to further your own personal education. Weed does not destroy a person's ability to partake in the learning process and you're not only ignorant but a fool because you're willfully so if you choose to believe that weed use means you'll be perpetually ignorant until you stop smoking.
 
GenericName12 said:
@Jibult

I originally made a much longer post but since deleted it because I don't want to get into a "whose e-dick is bigger" contest.

I have a very very strong academic background and I began getting high during my late university years and it seriously affected my ability to process facts, my memory and my critical thinking skills. It affected my ability to process a set of facts and derive a conclusion from those facts. I still graduated and went on with my life but it was much more difficult.

This is where you did not understand what I mean. Sure, with the right mindset weed use may not hurt your motivation, but you cannot deny long term use will affect your abilities even when sober.

I am clean now and I my brain is not yet back to where it used to be.
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This would suggest that one of our respective experiences is anomalous. I'm gonna go ahead and say it's mine because I find myself thinking "Huh?" when I read some of the claims people make regarding substances.

I do wish you hadn't deleted your initial thoughts, though. More often than not those are the most sincere, even if they're not exactly concise. You're absolutely right, though, this is all about semantics. I read what you posted here

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literally instead of interpreting what you were trying to say with unclear wording. Granted, my initial post was kind of dickish but I feel like I dropped that tone immediately with my second. Sorry if the first one got under your skin, though... I'm a natural antagonist, man, I have to work relatively hard to not let it creep into every conversation I have. :\
 
Glad we got that settled!

Also that wasn't me who made that first post that you just quoted.

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It was F1n1shed
 
GenericName12 said:
Glad we got that settled!

Also that wasn't me who made that first post that you just quoted.

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It was F1n1shed
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Oh shit! Well damn, I thought I was talking to the same BLer the whole time.


On that note, I think I should seriously reconsider you guys' point...
 
Jibult said:
It's most definitely a choice to not make an effort to learn something new everyday. Education doesn't just happen, you know-- you have to put an effort into it.


Anecdotal reference: I secured an AAS in Criminology and an additional AS in business administration in 5 consecutive semesters. I also obtained several letters of recommendation/merit and certificates of program completions, all in conjunction with my doubled-down majors (albeit on an Associate degree level). It's of importance in this conversation to note that I only remember being sober throughout the 5 semesters for two separate weeks (a week-long event called Riot Week that I attended on two occasions. Fun shit if you don't mind getting shot with baby powder "bullets" and mace while you try and beat the hell out of armed guards that are trying desperately to subdue the riot. There were a bunch of other things as well throughout the week but the actual riot was the best part both years.) Other than that? Smoked out day and night, before class and after.

Upon commencement, I was denied enlistment into the military due to my documented drug use. The CJ degree was foolish of me to pursue and I haven't done a damn thing with it. So, I got a job at Valvoline not knowing shit about cars. 7 months later I was assistant manager. That's hard to do when you can't learn anything, huh? A confrontation with a customer lost me that job (no details, sorry), so I picked up a job at UPS with the hope that I'll be able to put my business degree to use. Turnover rate is ridiculous and I managed to secure a week-long spot at Integrad for driver training so that I can be a cover air driver when the need in my hub arises and I still retain my initial position for when I can't drive. Fuck working on cars, I had to learn a retarded amount of depth of knowledge and DOT regulations/laws just to be qualified to drive a UPS package car.

Now, I say all that not to bore you to death as I'm sure I already have, but to illustrate the fact that if you're not learning things while you smoke weed, it's because you're choosing not to further your own personal education. Weed does not destroy a person's ability to partake in the learning process and you're not only ignorant but a fool because you're willfully so if you choose to believe that weed use means you'll be perpetually ignorant until you stop smoking.
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I agree that weed doesn't prevent you from learning, as long as you smoke moderately. I would even say that when used in a specific way, weed can improve my learning abilities. I've learned a lot while high and I studied countless exams while high, yet I was allways sucessfully learning.

What I do to get a high that helps me concentrate and learn the most is:
a) only take a few hits, or whatever gets you moderately high
b) Use a vape. Vaping doesn't make me feel as tired and unmotivated, it gives me a clear-minded high.
c) Use a sativa dominant if possible.

I also assume that it takes a signifiant amount of tolerance to be able to function while high (ex: a new smoker with no tolerance would get way too high and the effects are much more psychedelic when you have no tolerance, which would prevent him from properly learning.
 
Jibult said:
Whoa... so you're pretty much in a state of perpetual ignorance, huh? Shitty deal, man. I'd like to point out that just because you stopped learning new things does not mean you've lost the ability-- it's a choice, much like your choice to smoke weed.


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Dude i didn't mean it is literally impossible to learn new information while smoking weed every day. It should have been obvious i was being slightly sarcastic. How ever it is well known heavy long term usage of cannabis hinders learning ability and short term memory (as well as other things). Yes you can still learn new things and be successful , but it will take more time to learn it. This is from personal experience, and from research i have done. Do not be an ignorant stoner, which is what i was talking about earlier. I hate it when people think smoking weed all day has no consequences. Yes it is way less harmful than other drugs, but weed has its issues to.

I get in altercations with stoners on youtube all the time because they refuse to believe anything can go wrong with weed. It's quite childish, just because they are smoking daily they refuse to admit any negative side effects and believe it is the holy herb.
 
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F1n1shed said:
I get in altercations with stoners on youtube all the time because they refuse to believe anything can go wrong with weed. It's quite childish, just because they are smoking daily they refuse to admit any negative side effects and believe it is the holy herb.
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Are you implying that I fit this category? Just because I disagree with your conclusion on one instance doesn't pigeonhole me into the category you describe. That's actually a pretty fuckin' stupid inference to draw from a single post of mine, and you can even continue your self-professed research on Bluelight yourself to learn just how wrong you are not only in this case but the one that initially started this conversation as well.

If you don't mean what you say/post, you should find other words to better fit your thoughts. I'm not a mindreader here and no BLer should be expected to be one.
 
Let's make this easy since you seem to be hard headed. You are butthurt, longterm heavy usage of marijuana is KNOWN to cause learning disabilities as well as other things.
Go do some research on various sources besides biased marijuana papers saying it promotes growth of new brain cells with out explaining how it alters them in negative manners as well.
You're the one who came at me with an attitude right from the get go, and you are clearly a biased user so you can fuck off.
 
Can it happen?

So I was talking to my friend, and this kid that annoys both of us was there and he was all like ya guys I'm so addicted to weed and I smoke so much weed. I personally smoke and consume pot myself, so I told him you couldn't really become dependent on something like pot, and he got really mad and started an argument. So ya can you really get addicted to marajjuana?
 
i have quit it for 4-6 months and i really dont think its addictive. i find video games to be more addictive
 
You cannot become physically addicted to Marijuana, though you can form a habitual habit and some people for a form of mental addiction.
 
weed is the best sleep inducer for me and fever and body pain.....it didnt made me slow...it makes me mellow though
 
just be glad you are addicted to marijuana and not something that is hellish to be addicted to. You've got a whole summer to do nothing but smoke weed in, sounds like the summer after my senior year of highschool, and I took full advantage... If you keep smoking weed you may continue on with life as normal and everything will be dandy or you may start a slow gradual slide into a boring unfulfilled life, but you won't die, you won't be broke, you won't risk disease anymore then the average person, you may eat too much... weed is psychologically addicting, as is anything that gives pleasure be it food or whatever, if you like it your brain will convince itself you need it and will be uncomfortable if you don't have it, so keep a grip on yourself and take enough breaks so you don't feel hopeless/helpless without it and have fun this summer seems like it should be a good one...
 
of course you can. the physical component isn't nearly as severe as with drugs like benzos or opioids, but there are a lot of habitual smokers who have difficulty reducing their use even when it is obviously causing negative consequences in their lives. frankly, i think the impression that marijuana is harmless makes the psychological component of addiction that much stronger.
 
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