'N-Bomb' believed to be connected to Scottsdale teen's death

severely etarded said:
n-bomb... I thought it meant "n*gg**" lol
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Not only our these new drugs a killer, they're also racist!



RobotRipping said:
ah shit now the nbome series will forever be known as the n-bomb haha. In my day, we called them n-bomb-e and prefixed it with 25x.

we really need to do some research and figure out why some people die from these drugs in particular at the same dose that some people do just for fun. I accidentally took over 15mg of 25i once and it was just a super strong trip yet ~1mg has killed people?

he was young but should have done a bit more research, you don't put drops of LSD up your nose, i guess you could but there's really no reason to. I'd ask, 'well why does it have to go up my nose? does it have poor oral BA? kind of like those nbome drugs?"

i've had bitter acid like 8 years ago and it was great, sometimes its just the ink on the blotter that makes it bitter. I didn't find 25i to be particularly bitter, especially when you can put over 10mg in a drop, to someone who doesn't know any better, there's no way in hell they'll figure out the difference.
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But I didn't see any mention of the dosage. I'm sure he was a nice kid and all. But what if he took what he thought was a 10 strip of LSD as opposed to dying from 1mg of an nbome drug? Unfortunate natural selection, honor roll or not.

I try to tell people all the time when I can if they get blotter and it tastes bitter don't take extra and be prepared for something that is not actual LSD. Don't try to gobble 8 blotters like you would be able to with LSD.
It's a pity when dealers mimic a drug to represent something more known. I do believe there is a market for nbomes. The word could be spread about them and people could have nice trips knowingly. It's worth trying to some. But I guess there's a good chance the dealers are just as gullible as the end user.
 
well he still would have lived with LSD most likely, almost definitely. LSD has i think 1 death attributed to it? from way back when someone shot 320mg or so of LSD somehow because they thought it was speed.

honor roll doesnt mean much i dont get why they mention that lol

it'd be cool if everyone selling 25x-nbome or the many new potent psychs that are coming out labelled the blotters with the chemical name or the structure or something, that'd be helpful. I'd pay for 25x if i knew what it was, but since i can't tell if it's LSD anymore or something else, i just won't buy any blotter. I'm sure others are like that and that has to have an impact on the sale of blotter itself. I don't really know how much your average kid researches these things though, as most people here on BL would know to be careful about blotter with the emergence of highly potent psychedelic drugs hitting the masses. If your average teenager is willing to just snort drops of liquid of an unknown substance without researching at all, then this is probably going to become a bigger issue.
 
RobotRipping said:
well he still would have lived with LSD most likely, almost definitely. LSD has i think 1 death attributed to it? from way back when someone shot 320mg or so of LSD somehow because they thought it was speed.
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I'm pretty sure there is another death attributed to LSD, although under highly controversial circumstances. I'm no conspiracy nut, but those secret U.S. experiments to find a "truth drug", where people were unknowingly dosed many different drugs are truly unbelievable when you read about them.
 
ebola? said:
It's pronounced, "n-benzoxy-methyl." :P Should clear up any confusion.

ebola
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haha thanks the only chemistry i've learned is from reading bluelight :)

^in any case, LSD doesn't seem to cause death unless under severe or unordinary circustmstances. While 2-(4-iodo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-N-[(2-methoxyphenyl)methyl]ethanamine (25i) has a death count that is rising. Hope i got that right this time :p
 
^2-(4-iodo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-N-[(2-methoxyphenyl)methyl]ethanamine (25i)

Jesus what the fuck happened to good old molecules like:
3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine MDMA
Lysergic acid diamethalide

No as if MDMA and LSD isn't synthetic enough. . Fuck sake. I say anyone calling this shit LSD and selling it should burn in hell.

God am I really that old where DOB isn't the adulterated acid of choice anymore? Fuck!
 
Noah was a good friend of mine and many of my mutual friends from Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale. He was in a band with one of my very closest friends (Who also took nbome that night, thinking it was lsd).

The other guys there simply took it orally. Noah took is nasally because Bell told him to cause the effects would be "better".

If you're taking analogues like this, you're just crossing wires in your brain that should not be crossed. It may be fun because you get to "trip", but fast forward 10 years and you're going to be at the bottom of the totem, mentally.

As far as being an honors student, you do not realize the seriousness in this comment. Noah was hanging out with a group of developed, domestic, intelligent people, and even within his group was known as an intellect. Don't be dumbasses. There are people who are genuinely affected by things like this happening. It's not just "a story on the internet". I lost a good friend. So did many others.
 
Also, in lieu of the dealer involved (now arrested obviously) - back in 2012 I visited his apartment for the first time and could tell he was out for a quick buck. He cared a lot about money, would flash it around like some sort of big player and was very materialistic. A substance like LSD should not ever be sold by someone holding such ego-infused personal traits... Talk about bad karma, bud.
 
severely etarded said:
2-(4-iodo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-N-[(2-methoxyphenyl)methyl]ethanamine
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These names are a lot more comprehensible if you describe it in terms of the phenethylamine backbone.

No as if MDMA and LSD isn't synthetic enough. .
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Calling a pure compound 'more' or 'less' synthetic is meaningless.

ebola
 
Not to mention LSD's IUPAC name is (6aR,9R)-N,N-diethyl-7-methyl-4,6,6a,7,8,9-hexahydroindolo-[4,3-fg]quinoline-9-carboxamide and MDMA is (RS)-1-(benzo[d][1,3]dioxol-5-yl)-N-methylpropan-2-amine


braden_909 said:
Noah was a good friend of mine and many of my mutual friends from Phoenix/Tempe/Scottsdale. He was in a band with one of my very closest friends (Who also took nbome that night, thinking it was lsd).

The other guys there simply took it orally. Noah took is nasally because Bell told him to cause the effects would be "better".

If you're taking analogues like this, you're just crossing wires in your brain that should not be crossed. It may be fun because you get to "trip", but fast forward 10 years and you're going to be at the bottom of the totem, mentally.

As far as being an honors student, you do not realize the seriousness in this comment. Noah was hanging out with a group of developed, domestic, intelligent people, and even within his group was known as an intellect. Don't be dumbasses. There are people who are genuinely affected by things like this happening. It's not just "a story on the internet". I lost a good friend. So did many others.
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Very sorry to hear about your friend.. every once in a while you hear about a 25i death where they snorted large lines of powder, these cases are FAR more tragic.
 
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severely etarded said:
^2-(4-iodo-2,5-dimethoxyphenyl)-N-[(2-methoxyphenyl)methyl]ethanamine (25i)

Jesus what the fuck happened to good old molecules like:
3,4-methylenedioxy-N-methylamphetamine MDMA
Lysergic acid diamethalide

No as if MDMA and LSD isn't synthetic enough. . Fuck sake. I say anyone calling this shit LSD and selling it should burn in hell.

God am I really that old where DOB isn't the adulterated acid of choice anymore? Fuck!
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Isn't it sad? The most researched and 'safer' chemicals are all outlawed and will send you straight to prison yet the most dangerous unresearched ones are out there and legal.
I know this is a cliche argument for these substances but everything should be legal. Of course it wouldn't stop people dying because you got retarded kids doing fat lines of whatever is handed to them but keeping these illegal will ruin even more lives.
'If you put your life at risk we will ruin it for you'
Humans are fatally attracted to mind-altering substances and it'll stay that way for ever unless some sort of 'I dont want pleasure numb my brain please' chemical is developed and pumped into the world water suppl- oh, wait...
 
Racial slurs are not appropriate for bluelight.
 
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plmar said:
some sort of 'I dont want pleasure numb my brain please' chemical is developed and pumped into the world water suppl- oh, wait...
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The society capable of achieving something so spectacular would be the most impressive in human history. The human resources, the financial resources, ingenuity, and knowledge required to do this are mind boggling. I deduce mass distribution of a chemical in this manner would begin as a defence mechanism and evolve from there.

Decades down the road unpredictable consequences would start to surface. The water table in urban areas would become a "jeffery" as the chemical used changed and decades of different drugs built up in ground water through artificial irrigation. Despite thorough attempts to control the quality of exports problems would pop up thousands of miles away with trade partners, the majority of the population of Earth doesn't consume municipal water. As the human body attempted to adapt to the chemicals birth defects would become a huge social problem (autism, schizophrenia, obesity, ect.)

The only society more impressive than the one to implement such a policy would be the one to rectify the mistake. The strength and honour to accept the responsibility for mistakes made by their grandfathers would only be surpassed by the bravery to bare the enormous financial and human cost required to save future generations.

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plmar said:
Isn't it sad? The most researched and 'safer' chemicals are all outlawed and will send you straight to prison yet the most dangerous unresearched ones are out there and legal..
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This isn't sad, man, it's just plain evil, & it's wrong on so many levels I'm actually getting very Goddamned angry about it! & I'm usually very good at holding my temper because I also know how vicious it is.

Condolences to those who lost a friend.
 
Anyone else notice the great majority of these NBOMe deaths stem from insufflation? Maybe people should well....stop being stupid and insufflating these compounds 8). They kick in fast anyways so the risk/reward ratio of insufflation to buccal doesn't seem worth it.
 
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