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How many of you Inject?

Do You Inject?

  • Yes I inject

    Votes: 512 48.0%

  • No, I don't inject

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^ Haha my post was also directed at them ;) I didn't think yours was directed at me, just CH's.

Despite switching to IVing I still held down two jobs, went to school, kept my shit together, and no one would ever have guessed I was IVing. But it was still a very dark time for me and I was very much addicted. Personally though I don't like the word "junky" it makes all addicts seem dirty.. Addicts are people just like everyone else and I definitely didn't choose to have an endorphin deficiency. However, I DO have a choice.
 
blues hues - i don't think she (fairnymph) even argued that anywhere in her post. let alone any mention of it. looks like you're picking a fight with yourself, man.

she just pointed out she doesn't get the social stigma with IV use which is a different argument to defining junky behaviour.
 
thanks for your input mate.....I'm not picking a fight with anyone....

And the the social stigma of using needles to ingest drugs and the social stigma of being a junky are essentially the same thing!

why would there be a stigma to IVing drugs if it wasn't associated with being a junkie? It's essentially the same thing, unless you're talking about the needle phobia of IVing.....

It would like being saying that you don't understand why there's a stigma associated with free-basing cocaine.....Not everybody who freebases cocaine is an addict, but there's definitely a good reason why it's considered taboo by the the majority of people....

Come to think of it, even if you take the whole junkie/drug-addict out of the rquation, it really is still understandable why there would be a stigma to it, because for most people, finding a vein and poking into it with a hollow piece of sharpened stainless steel so that you can put the drugs directly into your bloodstream wouldn't be the first ROA that they'd think of when using a drug....It involves blood, puncturing your skin etc. It's considered more extreme because it is.
 
^Thank you, tentram, for conveying what I attempted to.

I've IVed a dozen different substances, including coke and meth in addition to heroin. All under a handful of times per drug, separated by years or months. I have small veins many of which roll or are quite elliptical so can easily be perforated, as well as low blood pressure. I definitely fetishize needles, especially injecting other people. It's quasi-sexual for me. But I also have alot of anxiety regarding IV, which developed after several nurses/phlebotomists couldn't seem to hit me and repeatedly injured me. I've never fucked up, but if I'm getting blood drawn, there's a 75% chance of damage. That in addition to a permanent tremor I developed after years on Prozac prevent me from IVing frequently.

Nearly every person, after meeting me irl, has told me how surprised they are that I inject. Many have told me they never would have considered IV or IM if it hadn't been I who was offering. Not that I recommend introducing people to the needle; I've never taught someone how to IV. There is a strong association between junkiness/abuse and IV but there doesn't have to be. I enjoy defying the stereotype.

ETA: Ive always considered smoking and to a lesser degree snorting to be far more dangerous/dodgy. Needles are routinely used medically, but how often are smoking or insufflating? Smoking in particular has never made sense to me & nearly all people who smoke fiend at least as badly as needle users. The girl who was my first heroin dealer also loved crack. She'd spend an hour looking for a vein to shoot dope and frequently miss because her veins were so damaged. She had abscesses and infections often; she was broke of course and she knew I kept a stockpile of antibiotics which she regularly begged me for. Ugly stuff. But the crack smoking was so much worse. She smoked off foil and fiended so hard she'd smoke while driving. You need two hands to smoke off foil. Eventually she got caught shop lifting aluminum foil at a convenience store, searched and course she had stuff on her. So fucking stupid. Many legal troubles ensued. Also, she wrecked a ton of cars.
 
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^Well, the only thing I was getting at... was that, it shouldn't be suprising to you that there's a stigma attached to IV drug use, given the way a lot of IV drug users behave/live their lives....

If it was a case where only 10 percent of IV drug users were lying, cheating, and stealing to get their fix, I'd say it was a huge injustice to pre-judge IV drug users, but unfortunately, I'd say the percentage of people who IV drugs and routinely engage in morally questionable behavior to get their fix is a lot higher than 10 percent!

It's not fair to judge everybody as being the same, but with something like IV drug-use, I think the stereotype is largely justified....

the good news is, if you don't tell anyone that you use needles, they'll probably never know anyway, unless you're so fucked that they somehow find out!!

I'm not about to march on the capital anytime soon to protest equal rights for IV speedball users! lol....
 
rhun said:
Despite switching to IVing I still held down two jobs, went to school, kept my shit together, and no one would ever have guessed I was IVing. But it was still a very dark time for me and I was very much addicted.
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Congrats on still holding down two jobs and going to school, it sounds like you were walking a tightrope and didn't fall. :)
 
Yeah I've been able to still keep it together for periods of time despite being heavily strung out. I still managed to finish highschool and college, keep jobs, complete other obligations, so It's good that my life hasn't been a total waste... but I still can't help but think about that, despite my successes even having been an addict, just how successful I'd be had I not gone down this path. :\
 
^You're not dead yet.....You can't just sit there and get high waiting for something to happen though because it probably never will....
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
Yeah I've been able to still keep it together for periods of time despite being heavily strung out. I still managed to finish highschool and college, keep jobs, complete other obligations, so It's good that my life hasn't been a total waste... but I still can't help but think about that, despite my successes even having been an addict, just how successful I'd be had I not gone down this path. :\
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I used to think of it like that, but what if you never used, had this great life for yourself, only to start one day? Then you'd still get addicted with that much more to lose, except you'd be older, and would have less time to get it all back together.

That's why I'm glad I got the party out of my system while I was still relatively young.
 
Some of you may remember me from the summer of 09. I crushed 10 50mg tablets of demerol, slammed it, got off...then crushed 10 more & missed the shot because I was fucked up from the first 1. I ended up losing the fingers of my left hand because the binders and shit lodged in the microcapillaries of my fingertips and cut off circulation. I didn't go to the hospital until the next day. I had to live with black, dead fingers (dry gangrene) for a couple of months until they could determine where to CHOP MY FINGERS OFF! I had pictures on here of the nasty damage it did.
I shot demerol dozens of times before this accident and got a bad abscess once. I told myself that I was done with IVing once that finally healed. Well, obviously, it took loosing my fingers to make me quit.
If you choose to IV your stuff, just be aware that bad shit CAN HAPPEN!
My screen name was nomofosho & the thread was titled "losing my hand to demerol" After over 10000 hits on the thread, I deleted it because I was beginning to obsess on the hit count. That 1 shot changed (nearly ruined) my life forever. I damn sure don't put a needle in my body anymore!
 
Iv is my administration of choice depending on the drug. Heroin for sure and coke I would definitely rather iv then sniff. I have iv'd a few roxys also but haven't done that in quite awhile. I always use fresh needles and filters and use sterile procedures as often as possible
 
I never injected in almost thirty years of opiate use. I don't fear the needle, and I'm such a squeaky clean person overall that I doubt my injecting technique would be problematical. I never did it because I almost died a few times, simply mixing opiates and benzos and other CNS depressants, and something in the back of my mind told me in no uncertain terms that injecting opiates would make me OD eventually. Only ONE mistake, like a little too much of the substance, or injecting street shit because you're desperate (even if you never did it before), or injecting shit with fillers and binders, again because you're desperate (even if you never did it before) could lead to death or extremely bad consequences. I'm glad - and kind of proud! - that I never gave in.
 
swmo said:
Some of you may remember me from the summer of 09. I crushed 10 50mg tablets of demerol, slammed it, got off...then crushed 10 more & missed the shot because I was fucked up from the first 1. I ended up losing the fingers of my left hand because the binders and shit lodged in the microcapillaries of my fingertips and cut off circulation. I didn't go to the hospital until the next day. I had to live with black, dead fingers (dry gangrene) for a couple of months until they could determine where to CHOP MY FINGERS OFF! I had pictures on here of the nasty damage it did.
I shot demerol dozens of times before this accident and got a bad abscess once. I told myself that I was done with IVing once that finally healed. Well, obviously, it took loosing my fingers to make me quit.
If you choose to IV your stuff, just be aware that bad shit CAN HAPPEN!
My screen name was nomofosho & the thread was titled "losing my hand to demerol" After over 10000 hits on the thread, I deleted it because I was beginning to obsess on the hit count. That 1 shot changed (nearly ruined) my life forever. I damn sure don't put a needle in my body anymore!
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Rough deal. But, proof that IV'ing pills isn't something to be trifled with.
 
The pictures I posted were quite graphic. Maybe they need to go up again just to show what those binders and shit can do. I had them under a NSFW tab at the request of staff. Many people found them to be a deterrent...as least that's what they said.
 
swmo said:
The pictures I posted were quite graphic. Maybe they need to go up again just to show what those binders and shit can do. I had them under a NSFW tab at the request of staff. Many people found them to be a deterrent...as least that's what they said.
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I wish it would deter me. :(

I'm far too gone, and might never recover from this. I'm hoping I can, but for now I know I enjoy it too much.
 
^From all your posts, I gather that you take every precaution when you use drugs IV.....You do have quite a few posts on the topic! Being safe and clean reduces the chances of complications from IV drug use to the point that it becomes relatively safe....

Of course, that's just speaking of the act of injecting, and reducing the chances of viral or bacterial infection....Nothing can save you from the inherent danger of the drugs themselves if you choose to use them.....
 
BlueHues said:
^From all your posts, I gather that you take every precaution when you use drugs IV.....You do have quite a few posts on the topic! Being safe and clean reduces the chances of complications from IV drug use to the point that it becomes relatively safe....

Of course, that's just speaking of the act of injecting, and reducing the chances of viral or bacterial infection....Nothing can save you from the inherent danger of the drugs themselves if you choose to use them.....
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Yeah, I am like that now. When I first started, I would deliberately carefully re-cap the needle every time so I could re-use it 4+ more times (some working well for 6+ times) - horrible anti-HR type stuff (I had a system of feeling for a hook on both sides of the bevel very carefully, so I could determine if it would pierce the skin at all) that I resorted to out of being unable to afford new needles or being unaware I could do this easily. Eventually I switched to using a new needle every time, and I started to cut back. I wish I was done with this already.

I always use micron filters for most drugs (I don't come across pre-made vials), but at first I wasn't.
 
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