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Why is gay sex so filthy and raunchy?

Pagey said:
^What? Why would gay men be more comfortable with themselves then anyone else? :?
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trust me you would be surprised just how many unfortunate souls accept a poor social life or sex life for "that's just how it is".

Gay men(and gay women, and bisexual both genders), unless they knew and accepted from a very early age (pff what are the chances) that they were sexually attracted to the same sex - it's something they have to immediately/very soon get over in order to have a normal/happy/satisfying sex life. Fuck it, me personally it's taken me 10 years to have a sex life which is fucking amazing - perfect in every way, dropping neuroses and social conditioning bollocks, some very deep and insidious - it's the same for other homosexuals. All sexual people have to go through a bit of experimentation and drama, but nothing like a homosexsuals I reckon. Accepting we like the same sex, which is not the social norm here, barely acceptable in the west, and you can get imprisoned or put to death in some places in the world for it still - yeah it's quite hard to come to terms with.

That's why everyone knows if you go to a gay club, it's full of people who know how to party - it's because they're not as sexually/socially awkward as if you go to a normal club - full of people still wrapped up in heavy narcissism of all kinds, not dancing happily and carefree - pure expression and joy - unless they're totally fucked up on drugs, go to any club and you'll see people dancing like robots instead of like flowing rhythmic humans - coz everyone's looking around "do I look cool?! I'll copy that guy's dancing! Do i look like Carlton Banks from Fresh Prince?!?do I look gay?! Do I look hot in this dress? Does my hair look good?" - probably not being real with themselves in so many more ways than characters you'd meet at the gay club.


As I said a lot of people go through life just accepting things..

Therefore it goes to show that queers who accept themselves, that they're not the social norm, love themselves, have less neuroses, take care of themselves more readsily than people who just went through life thinking they were" normal"/trying to be "normal".
 
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You're making massive generalisations B1tO'. Yeah, it's often harder for gays/lesbians/bis to come to terms with their sexuality and they don't all succeed in doing that as efficiently as you're suggesting. I've got a fair amount of gay friends and the majority of them are everything but comfortable with their sexuality, much less than my straight friends anyway.
Although I suppose this whole thread is kinda about making sweeping generalisations anyway...
 
No offence but you're in your sexual infancy, as I imagine are most of your friends. Such a small study group can't really comment to be honest. Sweeping generalizations can generally work. That's what's beautiful about the evils orf stereotyping and making generalizations - they work a lot. They don't work with exceptions to the rules though, something I always include in any of my points on any subject i make generalizations about - very carefully used words...so nah I stand by everything I say - I think I have enough experience to make them a valid point.

Plus yeah Rangrz is talking about gay porn - here the men aren't so narcissistic, usually got picked coz they have big dicks, not because their muscles are like this or that, unless you delve into sub catergories of things like bears and twinks and all that bullshit. No faked orgasms here neither, and generally just fucking. Whereas you watch most studio porn that's straight - you can tell the woman isn't getting off. It's pathetic. Too choreographed - whereas fag porn is like raw. Seriously Pagey lass, watch 10 random straight pornos(not airbrushed pros) and 10 random gay male pornos - tell me who seems more at ease. Hopefully you won't find too many straight guys getting paid to do gay pron (heard that happens...how hilarious)
 
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Well it's not as if we're talking about only a certain age group in the gay community so I think my reference to my early/mid-20 year old gay friends, some of whom have been having sex for 10 years, is perfectly legitimate. Yeah some people will end up stronger and more confident from the fact that they're 'different', but lots of people also won't, and that's applicable to way more areas in life than sexuality.
 
Pagey said:
Well it's not as if we're talking about only a certain age group in the gay community so I think my reference to my early/mid-20 year old gay friends, some of whom have been having sex for 10 years, is perfectly legitimate. Yeah some people will end up stronger and more confident from the fact that they're 'different', but lots of people also won't, and that's applicable to way more areas in life than sexuality.
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I don't agree - we're gonna have to agree to disgree here.
 
I was not just talking about pr0n roughjack, I was talking about my IRL experiences having gone to bath-houses (just procure drugs, but never the less, seeing what is going on), from my gay/bi friends, and from advertisements on places like Craigslist.

My best guess so far, taking into account the replies on this thread, is what I see is a combination of "typical" male sexuality, drugs, and the lack of an emotional bond between people who are just hooking up in a bath-house or via Craigslist.
 
B1tO'RoughJack said:
I don't agree - we're gonna have to agree to disgree here.
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Sorry, didn't realise only those who had reached their 'sexual prime' could voice their experiences. :|
Which btw, going by your pictures you haven't either so....

Plus considering you mentioned gay clubs I think I'm entitled to talk about the age group that goes clubbing most :) and yes, I do have a ton of experience with gay clubs being as my gay friends bring them to me a lot.
Also if we do take what you're saying for true (but I reiterate, I disagree), then sure, let's say gay people are more at ease in clubs or whatever than straight people are. Whyy exactly would they be more so in bed? I really don't see how fitting in the societal norm makes you less okay with yourself, at all....
 
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I don't think we can assume Pagey's friends are just excluded from the "gay population" just because they are a bit younger than B1tO's friends. I think this just proves that these generalizations can't be made. I've seen gay people who are very comfortable with their sexuality and gay people who are not.
 
B1tO'RoughJack said:
That's why everyone knows if you go to a gay club, it's full of people who know how to party - it's because they're not as sexually/socially awkward as if you go to a normal club - full of people still wrapped up in heavy narcissism of all kinds, not dancing happily and carefree - pure expression and joy - unless they're totally fucked up on drugs, go to any club and you'll see people dancing like robots instead of like flowing rhythmic humans - coz everyone's looking around "do I look cool?! I'll copy that guy's dancing! Do i look like Carlton Banks from Fresh Prince?!?do I look gay?! Do I look hot in this dress? Does my hair look good?" - probably not being real with themselves in so many more ways than characters you'd meet at the gay club.
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^ true story
 
Illyria99 said:
That's quite an assumption. But it could also qualify as an insult. :p
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Not really - I literally meant no offence, as I was just making an observation. She took it as one though, considering her personal jab at my pictures, which doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Not an assumption - I know how old Pagey is.

Rangrz - yeah I know you ain't talking about porn. There is still a seedy side to meeting men from what I understand - cottaging and bath houses, toilets with gloryholes etc, dogging, but that appears to be only a side of it. All of that comes with the territory.

Pagey - you make a pop at me? pshh - you're right I'm not in my sexual prime just yet - a couple of years to go, then I'll be fucking so many women I'll be laughing all the time when I step into a room and look around at how many of them are mine whenever I please. Saw a nice indicator of it last night though. But hey that's just a fantasy right now, I gotta wait before it comes into reality. I honestly couldn't give 2 shits if anyone think that's arrogant - I know it to be true, I intend to take advantage of the gifts I was given.

Also - your friends are within a 10 year age grouping - I hang out with people from 16 - 60, so nah your group just doesn't qualify yet - the 20's people are generally still coming into their own.
 
How is it a personal jab? You're clearly young. I don't see how that's an insult. Also sexual prime =/how many women you can fuck when you walk into a room. And do you seriously feel the need to brag about that on a drug forum? :\

You basically just ignored my point completely and wrote a paragraph complimenting yourself instead...I'm not very convinced.
 
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B1tO'RoughJack said:
Not really - I literally meant no offence, as I was just making an observation. She took it as one though, considering her personal jab at my pictures, which doesn't bother me in the slightest.
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I'm quite sure that her "personal jab" was also an "observation."

And if it didn't bother you, you wouldn't have mentioned it.
 
Let's get this back on topic guise...

So how about them raunchy and filthy homosexuals? =D

Are there any lesbians who want to assert they have raunchy/filthy sex? Because as it stands I don't believe anyone has contended so in this thread so far.
 
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Like I've said, I've seen a lot of bi girls going at it ( I use to date two bi girls who where dating each other and me.) and while it was often kinky as fuck and they did a lot of drugs, it was rarely -if ever- raunchy.
 
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