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Why is gay sex so filthy and raunchy?

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*disclaimer* Not being homophobic as such. I'm not judging filthy, raunchy sex as being bad/immoral/whatever. IDGAF what someone does in bed as long as it's consensual and not harming anyone. I know not all gay men in into filthy, depraved sex. But in my observation, a lot more of them are than are not, and a lot of more of them are than hetero people, lesbians or bisexual females (bisexual men for the purposes of this thread are going under gay men, you'll understand why when you read my post) So please don't strawman this thread as being a homophobic gay bashing fest. (I'm not, I'm not judging anyone for it) or whatever.

Like seriously, I've always wondered this, and Ms.G agreed with me and wondered it too.

Like I've been to bath houses (mainly for the lulz, also to find my friend tina back when I was really into her ;) ), and been in private with gay guys who where banging out, and watched gay porn..and like what the fuck! Legitimately every time I've seen it IRL, it's been pretty depraved. Bare backing strangers, jizzing up their asshole, sucking the jizz and lube out of their asshole and spitting it on their face. Ass to mouth, gagging them on the cock freshly out of their asshole and then blasting piss down their throats, rim jobs on a dude who was just working labor for 12 hours and did not shower let, laying on a dirty men's room floor, in the puddle of urine and water, sucking a strangers ballsack. Ridiculous dirty talk "OH YEAH FUCK MY SHIT HOLE STRETCH IT OUT BIG AND GAPE IT AND GAG THIS LITTLE FAG ON YOUR BIG SHIT COVERED COCK! Unnnhhh! AAAH!"

Gay porn...again, same shit. It's usually places an emphasis on the "dirty" aspects things. TBH so does a lot of hetero porn, however there exists a lot more hetero and girl-on-girl porn that places an emphasis on either affection and cuteness or just enthusiastic people having fun and getting off, vs emphasis on degradation, or grossness, or shit like 7 people's jism dripping out of a gaping asshole while they blast piss down the guy's throat. TL;DR..most gay porn appears to be like Max Hardcore but with men on men, whereas that is only subset of hetero and girl/girl porn.

I have this "Str8" friend (hence, why I'm placing bi guys under gay, more to follow) who likes to hook with guys. So, I've been at his place a few times when he's had guys over and they hooked up. As per above, every time, it was hours of animal like grunting and absurd dirty talk. Then like a few times after the dude left, I had to go get him up, and I'd find him passed out on the floor, condoms and jizz everywhere, depraved porno playing on a laptop, etc.

Ditto, Ms.G had a friend who did the same..."Str8" but putting up ads on Craigslist m4m casual encounters like " slut Bottom needs a BBC to ream his tight asshole out and make him his bitch. PNP++"

So, for the lulz, we decided to check craigslist m4m ads, and read them and compare how raunchy and depraved they are compared to m4w w4m and w4w.
The results of experiment confirmed our hypothesis that gay men really are far more filthy and dirty with sex than any other group. We also confirmed the "bi" aspect, as so many of the ads mention they are either "bi" or that they are "str8" or looking for "str8" guys.

Combined with our prior observations of IRL gay sex, which for me is quite a lot, and our observation of the nature of gay porn and the extreme difficulty of finding any that in anyway shows a hint of affection, we've concluded that as a population, gay men are far more likely to be inclined to this kind of sex than other groups. We're more or less convinced that lesbians have sex so infrequently as to make any analysis of it statistically insignificant and meaningless, so we used bisexual girls as a model for girl/girl homosex. Based on our large amount of experience with it- personally and via other people and media such (amateur) porn, erotic fiction and web forums where people post about their sexual stuff (like SLR), that girl on girl homosex is much less likely to be anywhere near as raunchy or depraved. We've also grouped heterosex as being approximately in the middle. It's not just the acts themselves we're gauging, it's also how they're done. I.e. it's not per se raunchy to rim someone, and it can be the total opposite and be really cute and romantic if done one way (think, like lots of touch and caressing and not yelling stuff out "uunh! clean my filthy asshole with your tongue!" to a stranger you just met up with in a men's room of a 24 hour donut shop via a CL ad), but the general trend we've observed is that gay guys aim to maximize the depravity of any given act.

So, does anyone have insight into this phenomena? Why do gay guys seemingly want to have the dirtiest, hardest, most degrading and depraved sexual encounters possible? While personally, I find this kind of sex really off-putting and do not want, I am not judging anyone for liking it, I am just curious as to why it seems to be such a big thing in the gay male population.
 
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wow, i almost dont know what to say to that. lol

i really dont know, im not into gay porn or any male gayness for that matter. that shit you wrote was raunchy as fuck and i just have no clue as to why someone would want to be that raunchy whether it guy on guy, girl on girl, or straight sex.
 
Probably because its not natural so that automatically regulates it to the sick, disgusting, filthy, and raunchy category.
 
Perhaps it is because girls are supposed to be all sweet and naive and gentle and all that stuff? (I'm meaning stereotypically of course.)
 
modern buddah said:
Because loving, passionate sex is, like, so 20th century!

How this bear on the over representation of gay sex in this category then? Hetero sex and lesbian sex should therefore be equally as depraved, given that we're all moving though time at more or less the same rate, due to our more or less co-moving reference frames and lack of relativistic propulsion systems.

smoketoke420 said:
wow, i almost dont know what to say to that. lol

i really dont know, im not into gay porn or any male gayness for that matter. that shit you wrote was raunchy as fuck and i just have no clue as to why someone would want to be that raunchy whether it guy on guy, girl on girl, or straight sex.

I don't know why either. I'm not, despite being kinky as fuck, it's never raunchy or gross like the way most gay sex I've seen has been.

akautonomics said:
I think they might be doing it for the lulz

But babe, you and I do everything for the lulz, yet our sex is always always closer to being sickeningly sweet and romantic than it is to be nauseatingly raunchy and depraved. Even when it's BDSM, it's still cute. Even when it's a locking bathroom on campus, it's affectionate and loving.

lysis said:
It's two men together, so it's men squared. This explains it all. I haven't seen raunchy lesbo sex.
Explain? I own a cak, but I don't like that kind of sex. It's not that I want to do it but am constrained by girls not wanting to do it, I genuinely don't want to do it. As you can probably tell from my posts in this forum, I LIKE really, really, affectionate and cute and romantic type sex. So that does not seem to solve the question. Plus, like sure, there is shit like max hardcore and bang bro's and stuff for hetero porn, but there is a lot of porn that is more soft/cute/not gross/etc. Similarly, girl on girl porn is still mainly aimed at heterosexual men, and yes, it has raunchy side too, but a lot of it (indeed, most of it I've seen) is really the opposite of gay porn. There is lots of kissing, and touching and it's usually not presented to be viscerally gross, or present pain, degradation, lack of consent, or coercion, or otherwise try to present it a way that makes it dirty. Yes, I know porn is not real life, but it caters to people's fantasies and desires, and it seems that gay men desire far more raunchy and filthy sex than any other group does. The industry, like any other, caters to demand, so the abundance of hetero and girl on girl porn that is not raunchy most indicate that target group (hetero men, to a lesser extent hetero and bi females) fantasize about raunchy sex way less.

bagochina said:
Probably because its not natural so that automatically regulates it to the sick, disgusting, filthy, and raunchy category.

Is it super-natural then? Does it violate the laws of physics in some way? Is it even something that requires significant human technological and scientific resources to make (like the way that it requires a helluva lot of industrial capacity to make synthetic chemicals and plastics and smelt iron)? Is it uniquely human? (Bonobos do it, so do lots of animals...it's natural in the sense of being a common, non-socially induced behavior of mammals).

ignoring that, still why is it that male+female can do "non-natural" sexual acts ( by which I'm presuming you mean non-normative or not related to basic penetration of vagina with penor) and still be really cute and even romantic? i.e. Ms.G and myself do all sorts of fetishy and BDSM stuff...but it's always pretty fucking cute and there is always a lot of affection and kissing and caressing and all that romantic shit.

How about girl on girl sex? Why then would it not be in the "sick, disgusting, filthy, and raunchy category."?

The same exact acts can be done, but sans raunch. A blow job is a blow job. But it seems hetero couples are less inclined to be all like "UUUNH YA BITCH! Gag on my thick rod!" *ram into throat hard, gagging/wretching...starts pissing down her throat* "Swallow my piss you dirty pig!" *smack*...yeah, it happens, but less often.

Why can girl be nomming another girls ass, but it, again, be really cute and soft. Like they'll be petting each other and making eye contact, and not yelling shit like "uuunh! yeah, lick my dirty fucking fudge factor clean you cunt!" ... they'll be more like "enh! that tickles.* *gasp* "That feels really nice!" and then like cuddle each other in a bed with clean sheets and stuff after.

Trust me on that one...I've seen a lot girls playing with girls IRL... cause I've dated a good number of bisexual girls...they have the like the most adorable and affectionate and cute sex possible. For whatever value of "un-natural" you are using, girl on girl must be equal to man on man, as it's still homosex.

llama112 said:
Perhaps it is because girls are supposed to be all sweet and naive and gentle and all that stuff? (I'm meaning stereotypically of course)

That does not explain why guys have to be as raunchy as possible. Actually, it doesn't really answer the question at all...it might have something to do with how girls would ideally have sex/do have sex/what their fantasies are. But it does not explain anything about the question, which involved only sex with males, or why there exists so much pr0n targeted at males that like girls, which is not raunchy, arguably demonstrating that, as a group, they have at least some demand for sweet and gentle sex, in terms of their fantasies (after all, one watches porn that indulges one's own fantasies. So if they're watching the non-raunchy hetero or girl/girl porn, which there is a lot of, they must have fantasies of that kind of sex.)
 
I really wasn't about to read all that,
But it seems like you should stop watching gay porn?...;)
Umm yea by the way why do you care what 2 men r doing?...just Curious...?
 
Probably because its not natural so that automatically regulates it to the sick, disgusting, filthy, and raunchy category.

Somebody didn't even manage to read as far as the first paragraph! You win the thread!

And the word you were looking for was 'relegates'.
 
Why do gay guys seemingly want to have the dirtiest, hardest, most degrading and depraved sexual encounters possible?

Well if you take into consideration the rampant drug use too it would seem to suggest they are possessed by pleasure/desire. But why it seems to become a filth fest.. the only thing I can think of is a comparison to obsessive masturbators who need progressively filthier porn to get off, and that the common factor is the lack of real emotional connection and actual natural purpose to the sex. Nature wants us to fuck and have babies, and not to get the pleasure in spite of that fact.

As a side note I think a lot of gay men are suffering from mental illness as a result of their homosexuality, due to that lack of emotional connection and purpose to their pleasure. And the ridiculous drug use.
 
I really wasn't about to read all that,
But it seems like you should stop watching gay porn?...;)
Umm yea by the way why do you care what 2 men r doing?...just Curious...?

did you read the first paragraph either?

Notice I said
IDGAF what someone does in bed as long as it's consensual and not harming anyone.
I'm not judging them. I also don't generally speaking, watch gay porn.

The question is mainly just interest and is in light hearted academic sense. I'd just to like to know, and I don't need a reason beyond that.

Just like I don't need any reason beyond "I'm curious" to do science and look at high energy particle scattering or ask what in the hell is it that can generate so much energy so quickly in such a small area to cause a gamma ray burst.
 
It's two men together, so it's men squared. This explains it all. I haven't seen raunchy lesbo sex.

Probably because its not natural so that automatically regulates it to the sick, disgusting, filthy, and raunchy category.

I think it is the combination of these two things. Men have a kind of perversion that women don't have, hence why lesbian couples are completely different and hetero couples are somewhat different. With gay men, they are able to relate to the sexuality of their partner in a way that doesn't happen between a man and a woman and it is much more understood what the other likes. Taboo sex is clearly a common male perversion and that is the perversion that is being well-communicated and thoroughly spammed by gay men (or so it seems...)
 
What do you mean by taboo sex?

As I said, I've seen the exact same "taboo" acts done by two girls, and yet it was still not at all raunchy. I've done them with my partner, and the same thing. It's a qualitative difference in how exactly they go about doing the acts.
 
did you read the first paragraph either?

Notice I said I'm not judging them. I also don't generally speaking, watch gay porn.

The question is mainly just interest and is in light hearted academic sense. I'd just to like to know, and I don't need a reason beyond that.

Just like I don't need any reason beyond "I'm curious" to do science and look at high energy particle scattering or ask what in the hell is it that can generate so much energy so quickly in such a small area to cause a gamma ray burst.

Ill leave this thread alone....8)....LMAO. Oh and yes i read the first paragraph. Just not the rest of the B.S.
 
Gay sex is filthy. Because I am heterosexual. I don't judge my gay friends but i fuuken hate it when they start doing homo-shit in front of me and/or pinching my ass.
 
Nice thread man. You get so much testosterone in a room and god only knows what'll happen...

Also men are more aggressive, so if you're not worrying about hurting your partner because he's big and strong why not piss in his eye and shit on his chest while you cum?
 
It's two men together, so it's men squared. This explains it all. I haven't seen raunchy lesbo sex.

i laughed into tears upon reading this. when you have men cubed is when you get into real problems8(

the thing is men are bad enough for being hornbags now imagine more than one. nuff said

but slutty gay hiv spreading behaviours are not in the majority unless you get into meth land. which i had a glimplse into tonight ( i didn't have any myself). the whole experience was more disconnected than it usually is and i killed time by canning this dudes G. made me realise i want love more than ever. and paranoid stim sex is lame "my flatmates can hear us" "yeah because in the real world poor people have to listen to people in their house fuck all the time! get over it and while your there get it up on no wait thats never gonna happen..."

Gay sex is filthy. Because I am heterosexual. I don't judge my gay friends but i fuuken hate it when they start doing homo-shit in front of me and/or pinching my ass.

they probably pinch it because it looks so tight and fabulous. you cant blame them for you having a fabulous ass! thats your own fault
 
@Disraeli:Cause I don't want to? Like legitimately find all of that kind of a turn off.

I really like to pet and kiss my partner and watch her reactions as I nom her and see that she is feeling good. I don't want to do stuff that makes my partner feel degraded or dehumanized and don't want to have sex or be intimate with anyone I would like to hurt/degrade/humiliation/dehumanize, etc.

@poefacedhoe...true, it could be the world of pnp, craigslist bath houses and the people in that world that are just plain gross and raunchy, not per se gay men. But, it's a pretty big part of the gay world it seems.
 
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