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whataboutheforests said:
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haha awesome

how are yall PD peoples doin?

tried goin back n attemptin to catch upo but i keep noddin in n out so readin is becoming increasingly difficult

UPDATE: i mosty just wanted to come back in here for any of yall who remember my little LSD in the freezer predicament

well i was so pissed about the situation n just didnt wanna fuckj anything uo so i decided to just let it go for awhile, well today i finlly decided to just go at it n hope for th best. i decided to just chip awau at the snow/ice with a hammer n a chissle.

ANyways, i was forunate enough that i had properly sealed the bags the last time i put them away, and actually apparently i had eben double bagged my goods so i was able to recover my blotters n my 4 ACo w/o ripping the bag or getting moisture into it (hopefully having the bag encapsulated in ice didnt get any moisture in there but i doubt it) so yea all went fairly well n i hope that my blotters n my powder havent had any detrimental effects to thier potencies

:)

thanks again for yalls help when i was freakin out

take care
 
LOL nice one..

Damn, bought a second graphics card (passive cooled) so that I can use dual monitors plus big screen TV from a guy second-hand... When I installed it in my case and turned on the power again it was not recognized, when I rebooted for some reason there were damaged molex cables (which had nothing to do with the rest I did) that had stripped wires that were exposed and shortcircuited (wtf) with a lot of smoke and shit. Initially there was no apparent damage but then after I removed the broken cable and after another try to get it to accept my new card by seeing if I could turn on my other PCI-E slots - which I couldn't - my OS was fucked (again wtf).
Now I have to wait to backup my local documents and restore some OS image... and I should probably count myself lucky if there is nothing broken let alone if my graphics card is accepted.

This isn't the first time shit like this happened, I always get a lot of complications when I try something. I am the worst tweaker in the world.
 
SONN- I think we are each others doppelgängers. Our drug experiences mimick each other to the t, even with being cheated on and try to trip the pain away. Send me a pm or hit me up on aim sometime, I'm really interested to get to know each other!

Solipsis- don't feel bad, I'm so computer illeterate that I have to get a friend or take my of in everytime I have a problem or want to upgrade. It's so bad that I usually just skip the pc and surf on mobile, even though I hate using a tiny touch screen.
 
Reading PD is beginning to depress me. The 25 Me/OH series have taken over and so many new poster are incredibly reckless with these untested compounds. It worries me greatly.
 
entheo said:
Reading PD is beginning to depress me. The 25 Me/OH series have taken over and so many new poster are incredibly reckless with these untested compounds. It worries me greatly.
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They have taken over because they are exciting. People are being reckless because they are idiots. Our role here is to provide a solid knowledge base for people to base their experimentation on. Maybe there should be a sticky with PiHKAL style dose and experience information as an easy reference. A curated project to formalise suggested ranges would be particularly useful

One way to go about this would be to gain experience with the related 2c compound at the minimum and maximum doses recommended by Shulgin and then titrate the corresponding 25x to achieve similar subjective intensities. If enough of us do this, we can double check each other's results and form a consensus.

For instance. I would say that 20-40mg dose range of 2c-c suggested in PiHKAL correlates to 250-850μg of 25c-NBOMe
 
^ exactly these guys are snorting like 8mg of 25i, that just can't be safe. I'm afraid someone is going to die, PEA's areole physically likely to cause harm than tryptamines. Vasoconstriction and tachycardia are what I expect to be the culprit when it finally happens.
 
It won't be pretty that's for sure.

Crashing said:
https://soundcloud.com/copelandia_crashing/just-a-shitty-old-idea

Check out my short little ditty if you so desire, most lyrics are based around my psychedelic use n abuse. that page is all rough cuts/ideas<3

If you find "egyptian junkie" you may like that too, i figured maybe someone here in PD might appreciate the lyrics or music more than in NEMD
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Yeah man, I'm listening now, you have a very contemporary vocal style. Wouldn't sound out of place coming out of my car radio. The vocal is the strongest element, haunting, melodic and in tune. Good stuff man. <3
 
entheo said:
^ exactly these guys are snorting like 8mg of 25i, that just can't be safe. I'm afraid someone is going to die, PEA's areole physically likely to cause harm than tryptamines. Vasoconstriction and tachycardia are what I expect to be the culprit when it finally happens.
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Do we agree though that one of the problems is a lack of definitive reference source?
 
^ of course, I 100% agree that we should have a sticky of the 25 series, they have become so prevelant and easily available. In the sake of HR, I think it would be a great idea.
 
The research needs to be done first though. My methodology would be something along the lines of each interested party chooses a different 4-substitution (i,b,c,d,e,p,n,etc), takes three doses of the corresponding 2c; one at Shulgin's low end, one at Shulgin's high end and one precisely in the middle, and then titrates buccal NBOMe doses to achieve the same effect.

That would give good information about both the lower and upper dosage limits in a format that we are all used to and also an approximation on whether 25x dose/response curves are flatter or steeper than those of the 2c series.

Would an excercise such as this be against bluelight rules?
 
Anon0631 said:
The research needs to be done first though. My methodology would be something along the lines of each interested party chooses a different 4-substitution (i,b,c,d,e,p,n,etc), takes three doses of the corresponding 2c; one at Shulgin's low end, one at Shulgin's high end and one precisely in the middle, and then titrates buccal NBOMe doses to achieve the same effect.

That would give good information about both the lower and upper dosage limits in a format that we are all used to and also an approximation on whether 25x dose/response curves are flatter or steeper than those of the 2c series.

Would an excercise such as this be against bluelight rules?
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dosing the 2c-x's to correlate them to their 25-x counterparts is an unnecessary step imo

shulgin didn't do things like that, he judged each compound based on its own effects... the only correlations he drew was as a starting point for dosing.... and even after he theoretically guessed at the lowest active dose for a new compound he still started with a dose 10% that size or smaller.

the best way to do it IMO is to start with small doses and titrate upwards with successive experiences until you find the highest dose you feel should be done (just like shulgin did)
 
Shulgin was a bit of a lightweight though. His suggestion of 4-6mg for 5-meo-mipt for instance is extremely under dosing in my opinion I found a good starting level to be at about 9mg
 
he listed lower doses some of the compounds that had stronger/worrying physical side effects

his upper range for 2C-E is 25mg which is a pretty big dose to a lot of people
 
^ If you take psyches as often as Shulgin does, then it's too disorienting and discombobulating to aim for mind-shattering breakthrough trips every time. You have to dose lighter. Whereas if you trip once every 5 or 10 years, then you want each trip to be something really special.
 
Ben So Furry said:
Maybe his chemicals were of a higher quality/purity?
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this is also pretty likely :)

he probably tended to test them shortly after they were first synthesized, so they were not subject to as much degradation as a baggie of powder that was shipped half way across the globe and stored in less-than-ideal conditions along the way.
 
TheAppleCore said:
^ If you take psyches as often as Shulgin does, then it's too disorienting and discombobulating to aim for mind-shattering breakthrough trips every time. You have to dose lighter. Whereas if you trip once every 5 or 10 years, then you want each trip to be something really special.
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Very true, but by the feel of it 30mg of that would have been a VERY light +. I guess he just didn't have time/didn't care to explore it more?
 
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