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Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCE Thread

i will never mess with this one again. I was already high from mxe little and i got 50mg with 3-meo-pce which was tan color(this was really long time ago, last years summer as i recall) so yea i snorted about 10 mg waited about 10 mins nothing happened atleast nothing that is noticable
i was only feeling mxe high, then after another 10-15 mins i was really wanting to redose and i snorted the rest of 40mg. and after few minutes i was passed out.
My mom said that i was trying to stand up but i didnt remember that. I wake up lying on the floor, since then i havent touched that chem. It feels dark! Atleast for me.
 
10 minutes is definitely too short to wait when dosing a new compound before going ahead and redosing, especially with going ahead and redosing 4x your initial dose on top of that one and the fact that you were already high on MXE.

It sounds to me like you did too much. If you revisit the substance again in future, I'd recommend starting with 10mg again but this time give it a full hour or two to see how effects develop before considering taking more. If you decide to take more, don't suddenly times your dosage by 5.. :)
 
i will never mess with this one again. I was already high from mxe little and i got 50mg with 3-meo-pce which was tan color(this was really long time ago, last years summer as i recall) so yea i snorted about 10 mg waited about 10 mins nothing happened atleast nothing that is noticable
i was only feeling mxe high, then after another 10-15 mins i was really wanting to redose and i snorted the rest of 40mg. and after few minutes i was passed out.
My mom said that i was trying to stand up but i didnt remember that. I wake up lying on the floor, since then i havent touched that chem. It feels dark! Atleast for me.
As jesus green said, you took to much, too quickly. Onset is more than an hour. a good first time dose would be like 20-25 mg.

^ Surely! That stuff was not just expensive, it was also hard to find. Have you tried it?
Yes, I have some. Seems to me that real MXE is getting just as scarce though.
 
a good first time dose would be like 20-25 mg.

10mgs without tolerance is more than enough i think. And yeah, good MXE doesn't seem to be easy to find, but there's absolutely no place offering 3-MeO-PCE anymore, so...

I really like it, especially it's long, pronounced afterglow.
 
This stuff seems nice. I liked MXE, it just didn't last long enough and I felt like I needed to take more, but I only wanted to take small doses. So this stuff seems like it may be a good alternative if I can find it...

It is an analogue of MXE right? Not of PCP or Ketamine? Because MXE remains legal here, while things like 2-meo-ketamine are more of a risk.
 
I'm pretty interested in this stuff and have a small quantity. However I do have this massive perennial K tolerance that seems to limit fun with MXE as well...
Do you think 5 mg I.M. would be a proper dose? Of course it couldn't hurt to start with 2 mg and wait a while...

Shaggy, MXE and ketamine are pretty much analogues of each other, these are all arylcyclohexylamines we are talking about. I am not sure where you live but it would seem strange to me if 2-MeO-ketamine or N-ethyl-deschloroketamine are considered analogues / homologues (of K) and MXE or 3-MeO-PCP or 3-MeO-PCE are not.
3-MeO-PCP is very close to PCP which is probably illegal just about everywhere. And 3-MeO-PCP is close to 3-MeO-PCE which is in turn close to MXE, which is in its turn close to N-ethyl-deschloroketamine. They are all to some extent close relatives.
 
I'm pretty interested in this stuff and have a small quantity. However I do have this massive perennial K tolerance that seems to limit fun with MXE as well...
Do you think 5 mg I.M. would be a proper dose? Of course it couldn't hurt to start with 2 mg and wait a while...

Shaggy, MXE and ketamine are pretty much analogues of each other, these are all arylcyclohexylamines we are talking about. I am not sure where you live but it would seem strange to me if 2-MeO-ketamine or N-ethyl-deschloroketamine are considered analogues / homologues (of K) and MXE or 3-MeO-PCP or 3-MeO-PCE are not.
3-MeO-PCP is very close to PCP which is probably illegal just about everywhere. And 3-MeO-PCP is close to 3-MeO-PCE which is in turn close to MXE, which is in its turn close to N-ethyl-deschloroketamine. They are all to some extent close relatives.

Well according to what I found searching Google, 2-meo-K will catch you a case if they find it in the mail, MXE only gets you a case if you sold it to someone and told them to eat it.

Methoxetamine is uncontrolled in the United States. This means it is generally considered legal to buy, possess, and distribute (sell, trade or give). If sold as a supplement, sales must conform to U.S. supplement laws. If sold for consumption as a food or drug, sales are regulated by the FDA.

Methoxetamine is not a clear analog of any Schedule I or II controlled substance and is therefore not a controlled substance Analogue under the U.S. Analogue Act.

MXE:
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/methoxetamine/methoxetamine_law.shtml
VS
4-meo-pcp (sorry can't find another K "supplement" on erowid):
http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/4meo_pcp/4meo_pcp_law.shtml
 
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Do you think 5 mg I.M. would be a proper dose? Of course it couldn't hurt to start with 2 mg and wait a while...

I think 5mgs should be a good starting point, especially when you're having a tolerance to arylcyclohexylamines. Last time i ingested 10mgs orally i was blasted, but i don't seem to have much of a tolerance. But as with any other arylcyclohexylamines, you can work your way up if the dose wasn't high enough.

But be aware that this stuff takes some time to kick in. After taking 10mgs orally on an empty stomach, it took a good hour to notice effects beyond treshold. I think it was Shambles who said that even with I.M. it takes some time to kick in!
 
I'm pretty interested in this stuff and have a small quantity. However I do have this massive perennial K tolerance that seems to limit fun with MXE as well...
Do you think 5 mg I.M. would be a proper dose? Of course it couldn't hurt to start with 2 mg and wait a while...
For me 25 mg insufflated was a perfect dose, onset was more than an hour. I was more or less dissociative naive at the time, and kind of still am I guess. I've tried MXE ( a few times, original UK batch mostly), ketamine (personally I've maybe 6 grams under my belt), DXM (once) 3-meo-pcp (once), and I can tell you that 3-meo-pce is my favorite of all these BY FAR! The only downside for me was that it lingered for almost a week, quite inconvenient with work and such.

How much do you have to play with?

I hope you've stored it well, I had some turn inactive in 2 years time, but it was just kept in a capsule at room temperature, and even had to endure a 2 month trip to Thailand and India. Luckily I still have a little bit that I've stored better, I hope it's still good.

Methoxetamine is not a clear analog of any Schedule I or II controlled substance and is therefore not a controlled substance Analogue under the U.S. Analogue Act.
Seems your wrong as already posted by Transform in the MXE thread. MXE and 3-meo-pce can be seen as analogues of PCE, which is schedule 1 in the US.
Erowid is'nt always 100% factual knowing everything, they're basically just a bunch of people like the rest of us.
If you're selling grey area drugs through the internet in the US, and the law wants to bust your ass, that's what they'll do. And I think you'd need a shit load of money and lawyers to get out of a mess like that imo.
 
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The day before yesterday when I was about to leave home for a 2 hour train ride to my parents, I added another 2.5 mg 3-MeO-PCE I.M. shot in the shoulder at the last second. There was already a staggered 6.5 mg or so in my system from the evening and night before. (I had some insomnia from it at first and tried to look for the quality of the effects, I was at a + I think and surprisingly was able to fall asleep).

It was not that long before I started coming up, I was very functional but there was something very magical about the train ride even though it lacked very distinct typical drug effects. I couldn't really say I felt like I was dissociated or anything, just that I had a new found appreciation for everything.
True beauty looking outside at mundane things (although the sunshine that finally arrived made a big difference)... Astonished by the realization of riding smoothly but very fast through the country in a big tube like thing on wheels. Hopping around like a child on the train platform even though I was heavily encumbered with luggage.

While 3-MeO-PCP was extremely Zen and removed me from everything in a way and even though it was profound, this was much more real. I was still in contact. Probably from the limited dose and because I heard that such is the nature of 3-MeO-PCE.

The developer of MXE said that these 3-MeO-PCX compounds are very special and I am agreeing with that more and more.
There was something relieving and naturally transforming about this day and I understand more and more why my housemate is doing 3-MeO-PCP medicinally.

I drank about 6 pints of beer at night, among other things watching the brilliant movie In Bruges (watch it, and Seven Psychopaths as well while you're at it). I realized there was no way I could sleep and had an unknown amount of diazepam (some semi ethanolic solution made with diazepam powder that has precipitate in it that gets rather concentrated... I might have ingested a bit of powder with the measured mini-cap I drank.). These following two mornings I have been able to resist the somnolescence though and got up after 8 hours of sleep, so either I am not used to typical amounts of diazepam anymore or there is another reason why I feel so heavily -pammed, still).
Then I had a horrible and vivid nightmare in which I was insane/possessed and got smacked and beaten by something inside me, rolling around in corridors. It was one of the most brutal things ever and so very real to me, even when I woke up it left me in tears. Approaching night terrors even, which I used to have now and then as a child.
 
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The day before yesterday when I was about to leave home for a 2 hour train ride to my parents, I added another 2.5 mg 3-MeO-PCE I.M. shot in the shoulder at the last second. There was already a staggered 6.5 mg or so in my system from the evening and night before. (I had some insomnia from it at first and tried to look for the quality of the effects, I was at a + I think and surprisingly was able to fall asleep).

It was not that long before I started coming up, I was very functional but there was something very magical about the train ride even though it lacked very distinct typical drug effects. I couldn't really say I felt like I was dissociated or anything, just that I had a new found appreciation for everything.
True beauty looking outside at mundane things (although the sunshine that finally arrived made a big difference)... Astonished by the realization of riding smoothly but very fast through the country in a big tube like thing on wheels. Hopping around like a child on the train platform even though I was heavily encumbered with luggage.

While 3-MeO-PCP was extremely Zen and removed me from everything in a way and even though it was profound, this was much more real. I was still in contact. Probably from the limited dose and because I heard that such is the nature of 3-MeO-PCE.

The developer of MXE said that these 3-MeO-PCX compounds are very special and I am agreeing with that more and more.
There was something relieving and naturally transforming about this day and I understand more and more why my housemate is doing 3-MeO-PCP medicinally.

Nice you finally got around to trying it :)
I too think it's a very special compound. In many ways I think it's the dissociative that I've tried that in many ways reminds me most of a traditional serotonergic psychedelic. You really should try a larger dose at once, though. And yeah, I also was fully functional all the way through my trip.
 
let's hope it's the real deal. It's hands down the best dissociative I've tried, so would sure be awesome to have this one available :D
 
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Finally got around to trying this. My sample has lain untouched, inside an airtight box, kept (mostly) in the dark since I acquired it, probably around 2 years ago?

Started off with ~10mg sublingual/oral at 7pm. After an hour, when I was feeling only minor effects, I took another ~10mg. During the next hour the effects ramped up considerably. Visual effects were quite strong, everything looked very sharp and precise, almost hyperreal, and at the peak I was having open eye visuals I would associate with a low dose 5HT2A psychedelic - not geometric patterns exactly, but field of vision made up of many tiny pixels which had a faint rainbow/kaleidoscopic halo around them. Physically my body felt wonderful, tingling and a strong desire to move - felt like this would be great for dancing, sex or low level sports.

I felt intensely stimulated during the peak, which lasted around 3-4 hours, with a kind of seething, forceful focus that had a strong manic edge. Prior to dosing, I had planned to top up with maybe some MXE, but at the peak I had a definite warning feeling that anymore would be pushing towards a psychotic edge. The intense focus was almost too much, like a pressure in my mind. I spent an hour trying to remind myself of the various plot-lines in Game Of Thrones, skimming and re-reading short excerpts of volume 3 in an attempt to remind myself what had happened. I was definitely impaired at this, reading was a struggle - re-reading anything more than the simplest sentences several times. I was both acutely aware I was struggling, and at the same time extremely driven to try and understand. At the back of my mind I was also very aware that spending so much time over a complex fantasy drama of limited literary merit was a grand waste of time - which led me to meditate on the amount of time I (and people in general) spend on trying to remember and understand fictional worlds that really aren't that worthwhile, which proved useful and insightful.

4 or 5 hours in and it was easing off, but I was still feeling the effects til the early morning. I slept around 6am after 1mg etizolam - probably could have gone to bed earlier but I was enjoying watching films.

I also had a strong desire to be OCD neat (which is pretty out of character for me) - in the kitchen, late at night, I went to mix myself a cocktail, and laid out all the required items as precisely as possible, and then proceeded to make the drink deftly with a minimum of wasted action, which was highly satisfying.

I felt a lifting of my depression / de-motivation which persists during the day after. In conclusion, pretty pleasurable all round although I would say I had slightly too much. I guess around 15mg would probably be a sweet spot for me with this.
 
Sounds really nice, I agree it sounds like probably the edge of too much. Wish I could try this one. Glad I've got MXE though.
 
With the upcoming EU ban on MXE and MXM not being that popular/available we might see a revival of 3-MeO-PCE (Methoxieticyclidine) ;)
 
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