sean107
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So do people tend to like this more than 3-meo-pcp?
Dissociatives The Big & Dandy 3-MeO-PCE Thread
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i will be testing this soon (finally !!) and will be able to make a comparison
but would like to ask for someone who has tried all these - 3meopcp/pce, o-pce and ketamine - to which is 3meopce most similar ?
also is the dosage the same as with 3meopcp or is it less/more potent ?
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It's most like MXE, even though you don't mention that one, I'm sure you've tried it. Actually, it's a lot like MXE, just more stimulating, longer lasting, more smooth. It's been a long while since I took it. Main effects were like 6-7 hours, and coming down very gradually after that. But it actually took me several days to get it completely out of my system. I seem to be special in this regard though, since nobody else has reported anything similar. It's the main reason I've been hesitant to take it again.
It's less potent than 3-MeO-PCP. A good starting dose for someone without a tolerance would be 20-25 mg. My first time was 25 mg insufflated, and I was pretty new to dissociatives at the time. I loved it by the way, much more than MXE, which I had also just tried for the first time the week before.
I'd say this is a much safer alternative to MXE, than O-PCE seems to be. It's definitely not holing stuff, at least I don't think so.
I'm curious to see what all the MXE freax are going to think about it, know that it's available.
VIRGIN TEST: 3-MeO-PCE, 3-MeO-Eticyclidine, Methoxieticyclidine, Desoxy-Methoxetamine.
A buddy dropped by and dropped off a true treat: 100mg of 3-MeO-PCE, which is also called Methoxieticyclidine and which can be viewed as either Eticyclidine with a 3-methoxy slapped on or Methoxetamine with the ketone oxygen taken off.
THIS CAN ONLY MEAN ONE THING!
T0 = 13:13 PM
00:00h - The 3-MeO-PCE came as a granular powder, a bit saltlike. I weighed 8mg of it and dissolved in 1.5ml water. It was slow to dissolve. I sucked it in a 10ml syringe, lubed up and proceeded to dose intra-anally.
01:00h - I had an alert almost immediately, it felt similar to methoxetamine, it is very slow to come on, it took about this hour to rise, even anally. The effect! Whew!. MXE is, well MXE. My precious and benchmark reference. 3-MeO-PCP with me tended to cause uncomfortable stimulation at first followed by a DEEP PEACE with very little cognitive activity. 3-MeO-PCE is quite a different beast. Its.. Almost the opposite of 3-MeO-PCP. The mind is in turmoil, but in a good way. I'm in a state of excited euphoria, what dissociatives assayers tend to call "mania", and its here in spades. I am punched in the face with euphoria just like I would be on MDMA, but the euphoria is of a different nature. Its highly energetic. My mind bounces around like a Happy Tree Friend on a sugar high. I'm so fucking happy I didnt take 10mg at this point LOL. The PCP analog is peaceful euphoria, this is hectic euphoria. I'm rubbing my feet, excess energy. Heart rate slightly elevated (90/min) by the excitement. Shit's intense. Its like being on some MXE and a stimulant at the same time.
1:45h I have plateaued to a stimulated but not pushy bright euphoric dissociation, and I decided to add another 5mg, rectally. The ascent got uncomfortable, or rather, my body wanted to bounce just like my mind does but with my weight thats not an option. All smoothed out now, the ascent is more stimulant than the plateau, I saw this with 3-MeO-PCP too. Its much more energetic than 3-MeO-PCP though. I dont think a Hole state can be achieved on this, its too stimulant, you'd bounce off the walls before you got there.
02:45h - The redose didnt give the manic push. My heart is open, wide open. I am overflowing with a sense of love that moves inward and outward. The sun is shining, its heralding spring. I feel wonderful. There is no big stimulant push, there's some but, not as forceful as with the first dose. Excuse me while I kiss the sky: I will now add another 5mg intra-anally. I'm in a state of loving peace. Its different from MDMA but in some ways on par. Removing the ketone [3-MeO-PCE] of Methoxetamine retains much more of the "magic" than instead removing the methoxy [O-PCE]. At this point is too early to say but this molecule might possibly turn out to be every bit as much a treasure, but in a different way. O-PCE felt like a step down. Is this a step up?
04:00h - Its very peaceful but also entheogenic. The mind is more mobile than I experienced on 3-MeO-PCP. I feel very sensitive and very hooked up to the universe in many ways. I'm calm, euphoric, weird body high. I did some spirit work, 3-MeO-PCE is inviting to it, it probably has some Dopamine D2 fortitude. I'm going to add 7mg via the backdoor and see where the combined total of 25mg takes me. Maybe I call it quits? Its been AWESOME!
06:00h - the pendulum has swung, yang has become yin. I find myself lethargic, melancholic, in an opposite state of where I was. energy seems low, mood is low. It needs something. I will add 5mg (total 30mg) and see what it does. Its like I'm having a comedown, all the Good turned upside down. Its psychosomatic, no doubt. There is a bit of nausea and vasoconstriction. Heart's calm. This change went synchronous with the sun going down, interesting. The mind is calmly at play.
07:00h - It cures what ails ya, its the medicine to its own affliction. Thats what I love about psychedelics and dissociatives, the cyclical nature of it all, up, down and up again! My mind smiles, my body smiles, I smile at the universe ad the universe smiles at me. The Yin and Yang of things, back in the saddle, I'm mostly Yang again. A homemade pizza took care of my physical hunger, and this here 5mg syringe will take care of my mental and spiritual hunger. I'm not crazed, dazed, just excitable yet calm. Slight vasoconstriction, heart rate maybe 80 bpm. Doing great stuff with my mind, it offers the mental workspace I get with MXE too.
08:00h - mmm delightful, I'm ascending into a beautiful, welcoming dreamlike state. The body is at peace, the mind is at peace and coiling itself in interesting ways. Its very enjoyable . Daydreaming, problem solving, drifting wonderfully in an ocean of mind. I'm in very welcoming territory now. Heart calmly pumping, vasodilated, body and mind are at rest. Fantasies intrude on me. Its that holiday feeling in powder form that I enjoy so much about arylcyclohexylamines. I wish I could take us all here, the whole world, in this feeling right here. Its just dreamy. I'll add 5 more mg, the same way.
26:15h - I stopped boosting 5 hours ago at a grand total of ~100mg, and still am at a roaring +++ I'm incredibly euphoric, definite "mania" but all is under control. I'm on fire with how euphoric I am. The body stays calm, heart rate 80 bpm, but my mind is SCREAMING WITH EXCITEMENT. I'm so up, so up! I am full of love and enthusiasm, inside and out. The sun is shining! I'm so happyyyy! I can't believe this chemical! My body is calm, slow, my spirit is SUPERSAIYAN 3 ^_^ Gloria in excelsis Deo! Woo-hoo! I will add something more meaningful when I come down a bit!
31:00h - I have come down considerably from the last entry and think I will sleep well this night. I kept redosing 5-6mg rectal doses all through the night finishing off the 100mg. This is a supreme drug, the big brother of methoxetamine. The higher I got it got more like MXE until of course the mania kicked in. That was superb. I had an AWESOME time Right now still excited and intoxicated but still 6 more hours to go to bedtime. This one has long legs!
36:00h - went to bed aided by 2.5mg haldol a few hours earlier to apply a bit of a brake. I managed to masturbate ferociously leading to a quite wet and fulfilling orgasm despite the skipped night sleep, the ton of dissociative and the haldol, this no doubt due to the strong dopaminergic stimulation. Sleep came swiftly.
42:00h - Slept 6 hours, woke up with No Sleep Till Brooklyn on my mind and still a bit cracked out by stimulating after affects. Crystal clear consciousness, I hope this will last all day or more. Throughout the experiment not a trace of the MXE delusions and psychosis, it was a very lucid kind of very MXE like effect. In bed, hallucinations were superb in gray, blue and purple.
So beautiful, so worthwhile. Its the big brother of MXE, 6mg rectal corresponds approximately to 30mg oral. More mental, more hallucinogenic, more lucid, less anesthetic though you could do surgery on this I think. A high dose would no doubt make you catatonic.
IT IS SO INCREDIBLY EUPHORIC. My first encounter with true dissociative "mania". The body was calm, the mind, wild, yet a controlled blast.
I feel blessed. Its much stronger so respect the fuck out of it, but its on par with MXE, with approximately 5x the gram potency, on par with PCP.
A buddy dropped by and dropped off a true treat: 100mg of 3-MeO-PCE, which is also called Methoxieticyclidine and which can be viewed as either Eticyclidine with a 3-methoxy slapped on or Methoxetamine with the ketone oxygen taken off.
THIS CAN ONLY MEAN ONE THING!
T0 = 13:13 PM
00:00h - The 3-MeO-PCE came as a granular powder, a bit saltlike. I weighed 8mg of it and dissolved in 1.5ml water. It was slow to dissolve. I sucked it in a 10ml syringe, lubed up and proceeded to dose intra-anally.
01:00h - I had an alert almost immediately, it felt similar to methoxetamine, it is very slow to come on, it took about this hour to rise, even anally. The effect! Whew!. MXE is, well MXE. My precious and benchmark reference. 3-MeO-PCP with me tended to cause uncomfortable stimulation at first followed by a DEEP PEACE with very little cognitive activity. 3-MeO-PCE is quite a different beast. Its.. Almost the opposite of 3-MeO-PCP. The mind is in turmoil, but in a good way. I'm in a state of excited euphoria, what dissociatives assayers tend to call "mania", and its here in spades. I am punched in the face with euphoria just like I would be on MDMA, but the euphoria is of a different nature. Its highly energetic. My mind bounces around like a Happy Tree Friend on a sugar high. I'm so fucking happy I didnt take 10mg at this point LOL. The PCP analog is peaceful euphoria, this is hectic euphoria. I'm rubbing my feet, excess energy. Heart rate slightly elevated (90/min) by the excitement. Shit's intense. Its like being on some MXE and a stimulant at the same time.
1:45h I have plateaued to a stimulated but not pushy bright euphoric dissociation, and I decided to add another 5mg, rectally. The ascent got uncomfortable, or rather, my body wanted to bounce just like my mind does but with my weight thats not an option. All smoothed out now, the ascent is more stimulant than the plateau, I saw this with 3-MeO-PCP too. Its much more energetic than 3-MeO-PCP though. I dont think a Hole state can be achieved on this, its too stimulant, you'd bounce off the walls before you got there.
02:45h - The redose didnt give the manic push. My heart is open, wide open. I am overflowing with a sense of love that moves inward and outward. The sun is shining, its heralding spring. I feel wonderful. There is no big stimulant push, there's some but, not as forceful as with the first dose. Excuse me while I kiss the sky: I will now add another 5mg intra-anally. I'm in a state of loving peace. Its different from MDMA but in some ways on par. Removing the ketone [3-MeO-PCE] of Methoxetamine retains much more of the "magic" than instead removing the methoxy [O-PCE]. At this point is too early to say but this molecule might possibly turn out to be every bit as much a treasure, but in a different way. O-PCE felt like a step down. Is this a step up?
04:00h - Its very peaceful but also entheogenic. The mind is more mobile than I experienced on 3-MeO-PCP. I feel very sensitive and very hooked up to the universe in many ways. I'm calm, euphoric, weird body high. I did some spirit work, 3-MeO-PCE is inviting to it, it probably has some Dopamine D2 fortitude. I'm going to add 7mg via the backdoor and see where the combined total of 25mg takes me. Maybe I call it quits? Its been AWESOME!
06:00h - the pendulum has swung, yang has become yin. I find myself lethargic, melancholic, in an opposite state of where I was. energy seems low, mood is low. It needs something. I will add 5mg (total 30mg) and see what it does. Its like I'm having a comedown, all the Good turned upside down. Its psychosomatic, no doubt. There is a bit of nausea and vasoconstriction. Heart's calm. This change went synchronous with the sun going down, interesting. The mind is calmly at play.
07:00h - It cures what ails ya, its the medicine to its own affliction. Thats what I love about psychedelics and dissociatives, the cyclical nature of it all, up, down and up again! My mind smiles, my body smiles, I smile at the universe ad the universe smiles at me. The Yin and Yang of things, back in the saddle, I'm mostly Yang again. A homemade pizza took care of my physical hunger, and this here 5mg syringe will take care of my mental and spiritual hunger. I'm not crazed, dazed, just excitable yet calm. Slight vasoconstriction, heart rate maybe 80 bpm. Doing great stuff with my mind, it offers the mental workspace I get with MXE too.
08:00h - mmm delightful, I'm ascending into a beautiful, welcoming dreamlike state. The body is at peace, the mind is at peace and coiling itself in interesting ways. Its very enjoyable . Daydreaming, problem solving, drifting wonderfully in an ocean of mind. I'm in very welcoming territory now. Heart calmly pumping, vasodilated, body and mind are at rest. Fantasies intrude on me. Its that holiday feeling in powder form that I enjoy so much about arylcyclohexylamines. I wish I could take us all here, the whole world, in this feeling right here. Its just dreamy. I'll add 5 more mg, the same way.
26:15h - I stopped boosting 5 hours ago at a grand total of ~100mg, and still am at a roaring +++ I'm incredibly euphoric, definite "mania" but all is under control. I'm on fire with how euphoric I am. The body stays calm, heart rate 80 bpm, but my mind is SCREAMING WITH EXCITEMENT. I'm so up, so up! I am full of love and enthusiasm, inside and out. The sun is shining! I'm so happyyyy! I can't believe this chemical! My body is calm, slow, my spirit is SUPERSAIYAN 3 ^_^ Gloria in excelsis Deo! Woo-hoo! I will add something more meaningful when I come down a bit!
31:00h - I have come down considerably from the last entry and think I will sleep well this night. I kept redosing 5-6mg rectal doses all through the night finishing off the 100mg. This is a supreme drug, the big brother of methoxetamine. The higher I got it got more like MXE until of course the mania kicked in. That was superb. I had an AWESOME time Right now still excited and intoxicated but still 6 more hours to go to bedtime. This one has long legs!
36:00h - went to bed aided by 2.5mg haldol a few hours earlier to apply a bit of a brake. I managed to masturbate ferociously leading to a quite wet and fulfilling orgasm despite the skipped night sleep, the ton of dissociative and the haldol, this no doubt due to the strong dopaminergic stimulation. Sleep came swiftly.
42:00h - Slept 6 hours, woke up with No Sleep Till Brooklyn on my mind and still a bit cracked out by stimulating after affects. Crystal clear consciousness, I hope this will last all day or more. Throughout the experiment not a trace of the MXE delusions and psychosis, it was a very lucid kind of very MXE like effect. In bed, hallucinations were superb in gray, blue and purple.
So beautiful, so worthwhile. Its the big brother of MXE, 6mg rectal corresponds approximately to 30mg oral. More mental, more hallucinogenic, more lucid, less anesthetic though you could do surgery on this I think. A high dose would no doubt make you catatonic.
IT IS SO INCREDIBLY EUPHORIC. My first encounter with true dissociative "mania". The body was calm, the mind, wild, yet a controlled blast.
I feel blessed. Its much stronger so respect the fuck out of it, but its on par with MXE, with approximately 5x the gram potency, on par with PCP.
headfuck123
Bluelighter
Thanks for the great report! have sample of this and its pcp version on the way since ive sorely missed MXE although had access to good ketamine but at too high a price. I loved mxe for its slightly manic and motivating nature, so in theory I should like this one. After and allergy test I'll jump in at 5 - 10mg and report back. I was interested in o-pce but it sounds a bit to crazy and sounds more dangerous than this one. Looking forward to having a wee test run!
Thank you. We need solid methodical trip reports so people know what they are potentially getting into. Someone has to do it. I want to be the one to help others make better choices. First O-PCE report was mine too and I think it helped people make informed choices. Lets keep each other safe.
Xorkoth
Bluelight Crew
Wow, sounds amazing. I look forward to the day I get to try this.
great to hear that it is similar to mxe ! does that mean that it is possible to hole on it ? edit: never mind i missed that you already answered this question "It's definitely not holing stuff, at least I don't think so. " so how far can it be taken in your opinion? because with 3meopcp it is still possible to "hole" it's just not so "out of this world"
wow 25mg... i thought dosage was similar to 3meopcp rather than mxe.
Can anyone confirm this dosage ?
wow 25mg... i thought dosage was similar to 3meopcp rather than mxe.
Can anyone confirm this dosage ?
NMR-Chemist
Greenlighter
I took it 3 times (no tolerance, nasal):
3x 4 mg withing 60 minutes was mellow but very nice. Similar to 15 mg of MXE.
25 mg was a little too much for social interaction. I was quite dissociated but still felt very good. It just wasn't perfect for the situation because too many people were around.
16 mg turned out to be my sweet spot (similar to 25-35 mg MXE). Nice body buzz, changed headspace, enhanced creativity while still retaining clarity. Social interaction were almost unimpaired.
Incunabula
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I have no idea. It's longer lasting and more "stimulating" than MXE, so that's why I think it will be even more unsuited for holing than MXE. I mean, some people do manage to hole on MXE, but a lot of people already find that difficult to achieve.
I agree. It obviously depends on the setting. My 25 mg trial was definitely a +++ that would have been too much in a different setting. I actually wrote a pretty detailed trip report on page 4 of this thread. It's the only long one I ever wrote, it's probably not very good english though, lol. Usualy I don't need more than a couple of lines to convey how something was.
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Is this a new batch that is being sampled or have you stashed from old ones?
I sampled this a few years ago and really enjoyed low doses.
I remember it being quite potent and very euphoric.
I really couldnt get into 3-meo-pcp, but this was way better.
I sampled this a few years ago and really enjoyed low doses.
I remember it being quite potent and very euphoric.
I really couldnt get into 3-meo-pcp, but this was way better.
New batch. I cant and wont name sources but the product was granular like salt and had a bit of an etherlike smell (I suspect THF). What I didnt say in the report but what I think was evident is that I liked low doses much better than high doses. The comeup of high doses (>7mg) was unpleasant, whereas that of low doses (5-6mg) was quite pleasant.
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Bless you indeed, for taking the time to share. Detailed reports like this are much appreciated!
You mention strong dopaminergic stimulation, and hints of an anhedonic comedown. How have you been feeling the following days? I ask because there's an strong "stim vibe" to your report, and i am quite sensitive to the nasty after effects of most stims.
That was my worry, I react severely adversely to stimulants (amphetamines and cathinones, even coffee and piracetam) with lots of heart unpleasantness and stomach turning comedowns. None of that was the case here. I had strong stimulation effects but other than skipping a night (an anticipated and welcomed effect, I enjoy 2 day dissociative events for having the sleep deprivation delirium blend in with the dissociation) there was no real price to pay. I called it dopaminergic but maybe it was more serotonin based, as it was ragingly euphoric and the body remained fairly calm. Haldol curbed it well. as expected, but it also acts on sigma receptors. With low repeated doses it was more serotonergic than dopaminergic I guess. The "mania" was something wonderful. My heart was wide open.
Hexagon Sun
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If I would designed a profile for a disso would be almost exactly as 3-meo-pce. So intrigued to test it.
Please keep reporting.
Please keep reporting.
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Personally i hate stims, except a good roll maybe once a year tops.
However the incredible boost of energy this chem gives is wicked.
I remember a walk i had 2years ago during the spring.
I was on maybe 10mg of this lovely material.
Also once i had a solid dose and went to the cinema.
Before the movie i had a solid bump of K in the bathroom.
The effects of these two was very similar to mxe but cleaner somehow.
I hope the batch that is going around shows up locally soon.
However the incredible boost of energy this chem gives is wicked.
I remember a walk i had 2years ago during the spring.
I was on maybe 10mg of this lovely material.
Also once i had a solid dose and went to the cinema.
Before the movie i had a solid bump of K in the bathroom.
The effects of these two was very similar to mxe but cleaner somehow.
I hope the batch that is going around shows up locally soon.
headfuck123
Bluelighter
Would it be unwise to try a very small dose of this on the same day as taking a dose of kratom? Cant wait to give it a go but don't want any unwanted effects from the combo.
pharmakos
Bluelighter
how much kratom are we talking? i don't see any reason why the two would be contraindicated. you won't get a feel for the stuff as well if you don't take it by itself for your first time, but otherwise i think you'll be okay.
headfuck123
Bluelighter
about half a teaspoon before breakfast. Just dipped a paperclip into the bag a few times in hope of sampling this one at a few mg as my scales are not accurate unless I weigh out 20mg or more.
headfuck123
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Update: slowly kept dipping into the bag a few more times so guessing I've had roughly 5mg. so far all is well. Nice and calm yet it has a stimulating undercurrent. It put me in a pretty good mood. I haven't tired 3meo-pcp to compare but this stuff is nothing like ketamine as expected and I haven't tried a big enough dose yet to see the similarities to MXE. Feels good though so far