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I mixed up some smoke drops with my eam 2201. I weighed .010 of the eam & put it inside a 5ml bottle, added 3ml of grain alcohol and shook well. Placed 15 drops on a handful of kosher marshmellow leaf & Bam EAM Kicks Ass really strong come up
Can't wait for he pb-22 to get here
 
Right well I smoked some EAM-2201 last night, felt the familiar come-up of the AM-2201 but it def wasn't as strong and felt quite different but I even think it's 'weaker' than UR-144.
 
Yeah, well I sure liked it in my blend, and I know one blendmaker is coming out with 2 new blends that include the eam
can't say for you vape guys
Oh & I never intended to make it sound strong compared to old banned substances,
just to the newer ones.

BTW I like to help people find stuff & I would be happy to expound on my systemof no acetone blend making
 
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OK. So I have ordered 500 mg of MAM-2201. I know most of you would say 'why not go for a full 1g'. The reason i got THIS much is that i personally am not a big fan of synth. cannabinoids, but my friend you see is looking to make his own little green buds stronger (not for the sake of commercialism, relax) and has asked me to do the deed for him. So, as the good friend i am, I decided to go with 500 mg, for MAM is supposedly very potent in comparison to other \blends/ . My friend has about 40 grams of herb /cannabis sativa/ with no more THC than 0.2 , 0.3? Anyway my question is as follows. Supposedly i decide to mix my MAM with 5-10 ml of pure acetone from a lab, and spray it onto my little green friends. Will this blend /spiked bud/ be, /compared to weed in terms of how much you need to get you flying/ ; A - Strong (Sour D /2-3 hitter quitter/), B - Regular/medium /lemon skunk 4-6 hits/ or C /mexican brick weed, 10+ hits/ The general purpose of this exercise is to get a blend, which you could roll a medium size joint and enjoy it with, let's say 3 friends, and get Sour D kind of thing going on. I don't want it to be overly strong, like sprinkling grains of PLANT material over some tobacco to get the job done, and i do not wish it to be something like 1 joint per person kind of deal. I wish to get it as much as weed like in dose, and not go overboard like 1g MAM per 10 g plant. Any information will be GREATLY APPRECIATED, thank you!

Also i am not familiar with this particular RC, except for the number of threads i read on this forum and others like it. It is my understanding that is substantially mellow-er than AM-2201 in controlled doses. I have yet to figure out what the duration of this chemical is. I read one dude saying it was like 10 min + AM-2201, which is still pretty short, while other's claim that is a full 2-3 hour blaster, like a potent herb. Duration is important for me, for i have a mild speculation that i might have been sold AM /have not received my parcel yet, further research is needed/. Identifying the chemical is an issue, sure, but any other advises you might have regarding this RC will be greatly appreciated as well. If you feel that 500 mg of MAM-2201 will be too weak of a blend, combined with 40 g of herb, then what you you recommend in terms of MAM : Weed ratio, considering the above described desired results.

I would like you to keep in mind that i am indeed new to this forum /actually this is my first post/ and i do apologize if i have broken some rules, if not, good for me. Well, i will be waiting for both my MAM and your replies. Who ever gives me the most accurate/reliable information will receive 1 g of my homemade MAM Blend :) /just kidding, plant material is weed nonetheless, cant ship/
 
I found MAM-2201 to be quite a mellow noid, somewhere between UR-144 and AM-2201. Have some MAM blend on the way so it'll be interesting to try.
 
I've noticed I pack my bowl with larger and larger amounts of cannabinoid, to the point where one big rip will send you to the highest you'd want to go. It's difficult going back down to smaller amounts, though. I'm just not used to it anymore. This is bad.
 
I have tried multiple JWH's and AM-2201...
JWH was pretty good and pretty cheap, so that was a pretty useful RC.
AM-2201 LITERALLY makes you feel like you are taking "retard pills". You forget how to think if you smoke too much...


Is there a chem that is like JWH, and not like AM-2201???
 
^^Most of the jwh's have been banned, and the ones like -073 are waste products. Yes, WASTE products.

I know EXACTLY what you're talking about hahaha, after taking huge rips of a blend I forgot my login password to my work computer and left the keys in my car with the car on for hours :)
 
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Check this out peeps http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...moking-synthetic-marijuana.html#axzz2JxSb0OB5

Girl left brain damaged from smoking it
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I Like how they sneak this into the article, "New world: Emily is believed to have smoked the fake weed with friends after buying it from a gas station"

I have never seen an actual article that straight up said sythetic weed did it. EVverything always implys it - very strongly - but then there is the one line cleverly placed that a lot of people miss, the disclaimer that they actually have no idea if that was the cause or not -"believed to have" "could have", "they had it on them", "might have".

What happened to her friends? Did they not smoke any? Everyone else was fine?

My sympathies go out to her and her family if this this story is true, but some things just don't add up. I've seen articles like this before - fictional - made to appear real.
 
Alright so what's the story with UR-144 oral/sublingual? just read 15 pages of this thread and i'm baffled. some people say it don't work at all, some it does with oil, some say it works just fine just pure powder. Come up seems to be 40 min to 3h ;/ fucking confusing tbh.


also has anyone tried 5f-AKB48 oral/sublingual?
 
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Alright so what's the story with UR-144 oral/sublingual? just read 15 pages of this thread and i'm baffled. some people say it don't work at all, some it does with oil, some say it works just fine just pure powder. Come up seems to be 40 min to 3h ;/ fucking confusing tbh.


also has anyone tried 5f-AKB48 oral/sublingual?
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I made a 5F AKB48 No Bake Oreo Cake the how I did it and the experience i posted in the trip reports under "No Bake Oreo Cake and 5F AKB48 butter
 
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^^Most of the jwh's have been banned, and the ones like -073 are waste products. Yes, WASTE products.

I know EXACTLY what you're talking about hahaha, after taking huge rips of a blend I forgot my login password to my work computer and left the keys in my car with the car on for hours :)
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Yeah, I know most of them were banned. That's why I'm wondering if there is anything "like" it.

And yeah, AM-2201 had me forgetting everything except how to smoke. But me and 1 other person went through a gram in like 3 days...
 
Shaggyfin, MN-18, EAM-2201, and 5F-AKB48 are "like" JWH classics.


As far as that sensationalist story about the brain damaged girl, we have no idea what she was smoking, or what other drugs she was doing, or if she had pre-existing problems.

There's only two scenarios:

A. The "gas station blends" she smoked had some kind of nasty herbs as a base, or the 'noids they were laced with had some terrible impurity.

or

B. She had some pre-existing condition, or was abusing other, more dangerous drugs, and her parents simply didn't know.

I've been using synthetics for around 5 years now, and I'm as healthy as a horse. Keep in mind, I *never* use store-bought blends...I've heard some speculation from fellow researchers that some of the newer cannabinoids may put a little extra strain on the kidneys, if your body is susceptible to that type of thing and you're using a lot, but STROKES?! Unheard of - there's definitely something else going on, and it sucks because it's giving synthetics a really bad name.

EDIT: Logan1314, JWH-073 is a "waste product"? You get my "bullshit of the day" award, congrats...I'm curious though, how did you come to that conclusion?
 
N0 W4RN1NG said:
Shaggyfin, MN-18, EAM-2201, and 5F-AKB48 are "like" JWH classics.


As far as that sensationalist story about the brain damaged girl, we have no idea what she was smoking, or what other drugs she was doing, or if she had pre-existing problems.

There's only two scenarios:

A. The "gas station blends" she smoked had some kind of nasty herbs as a base, or the 'noids they were laced with had some terrible impurity.

or

B. She had some pre-existing condition, or was abusing other, more dangerous drugs, and her parents simply didn't know.

I've been using synthetics for around 5 years now, and I'm as healthy as a horse. Keep in mind, I *never* use store-bought blends...I've heard some speculation from fellow researchers that some of the newer cannabinoids may put a little extra strain on the kidneys, if your body is susceptible to that type of thing and you're using a lot, but STROKES?! Unheard of - there's definitely something else going on, and it sucks because it's giving synthetics a really bad name.

EDIT: Logan1314, JWH-073 is a "waste product"? You get my "bullshit of the day" award, congrats...I'm curious though, how did you come to that conclusion?
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Thanks for the help. I'll look into those :)

(Edit: For some reason MN-18 isn't showing up on google...)

Edit again: There is practically NO information on that stuff online. MN-18 was impossible to find, I'm not sure I want to take any kind of 2201... Do they not all act similar? And 5F-AKB48 doesn't even has a wiki, but I did find AKB48, just no 5F... Does anyone know anything about them?
 
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I'm a bit fan of using 5f-akb48 25% STS-135 75% in blends. I do one I infuse with a-pvp freebase and one with just enough 25b to make for a wild ride.
 
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