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I'm not rolling at least haha, I keep that strict at once a month. Just a lot of psychedelics... a LOT. This is a bit over a two week break though lol, so I should at the least be able to recover enough to delve into my mind a few more times before I take a longer break to reset tolerance for summer
 
Hey Folley, nice to see you recovered man :)

Read in another thread you done your first roll in ages and it all worked out ok, am happy for you!

My mdma problem I was developing has been replaced with a 6-apb problem hehe. It feels a little less toxic and completely surpasses mdma to me. However I know of no-one else with this view, most look at me wierd when I express this preference. Im going to be hitting it again tomorrow, but this time i have some 5-apb to add to the mix. Doomed perhaps, just too many sweeties available :)
 
I would be more wary bout 5abp and 6abp than MDMA really. we are all one big science experiement when it comes to research chems. there isn't alot of data out there about abuse. you could be setting yourself up for a hard fall.

at least with MDMA there is enough data available to make a half way educated guess about what is "safe" usage.
 
I was initially extremely wary, its the only RC i have fallen in love with. My confidence about lowered toxicity comes from two observations. First I can redose after 6 hours and get a second full strength experience, which tells me the first dose didnt deplete me heavily. Second, I get no terrible comedown like I got on mdma.

The roll i get off a 150mg dose is insane. I find no need to consume anything else for a straight 6 hours (7 after dropping the bomb). It makes me feel as good as I can imagine. In every way imaginable. I see it like others describe cocaine, except its for 6 hours. And then you can do it once more without much penalty.

I have pushed this chem up to 4 consecutive doses. That 4th dose was without the magic though, and a noticeably harsher comedown was observed. 3 doses works quite well too, but 2 keeps things sane. Thats a 12 hour full-on roll. By my definition of sane, which doesnt say much. Ho hum :)
 
the APBs are actually supposed to be quite more dopaminergic than normal MDMA, so you're right it might lend itself to abuse more.. should still always be careful obviously, but as far as RCs go the APBs seem pretty safe.



Thanks though my man :) That roll was AMAZING. It was my first time doing MDA by itself, and my first time mixing MDxx with 2C-B and ketamine.. PERFECT night.

I've decided I can't roll without MDMA and MDA now though lol.. it's just not the same.
 
It would behoove you to keep that warriness. it is too early to tell if you usage is reckless because the drug it so new to the scene...I just don't want you to be the first to post about how 6-abp ruined your life.

first sign of any cognative, social, or physical difficulties you should stop even if you don't think it caused them.


(I know, I know....FUCK YOU MOM!! This is the social thread)

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Do you know if the APBs mimick MDA closely? I never tried real MDA myself.

I get the feeling they are less serotonergic and more dopaminergic too, thus not draining of all serotonin in one dose. Pure speculation from self observation though. I cant believe how good that stuff is. Which is a bad thing. How this stuff only recently came to my attention is beyond me.

Completely stopped my mdma problem in its tracks so as long as it isnt like using heroin to come off morphine then all is well :)
 
matt2012 said:
(I know, I know....FUCK YOU MOM!! This is the social thread)
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A social thread in a HR forum.. so it's very appropriate :)


I think a lot of people get scared of things that are RCs... really though a lot of these new drugs are going to be the next big thing. Sure, there are some that are pretty damn awful and rape half of your brains receptors just to activate a few 5-HT positions (coughNBOMEcough).... but then there are others that are wonderful drugs with almost no side effects.

Hell, 2C-B felt less toxic than LSD does to me.



So definitely be wary of them... but not afraid :)


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Do you know if the APBs mimick MDA closely? I never tried real MDA myself.
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IDK man, I've never tried APB either haha. I'd like to at some point, but I think I'm going to put more time into trying to track down MDE first lol



In other RC news, I still can't wait to try this 4-AcO-DMT lol :p it's the DMT I'm REALLY looking forward too though..

I can't wait another week :(
 
matt2012 said:
It would behoove you to keep that warriness. it is too early to tell if you usage is reckless because the drug it so new to the scene...I just don't want you to be the first to post about how 6-abp ruined your life.
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Yeah, I have learned that I definitely need to watch my usage with these serotonergics. Thanks for the well intended warning :)

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first sign of any cognative, social, or physical difficulties you should stop even if you don't think it caused them.
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Am happier than I have ever been, am more social than ive ever been and.... have you tried sex on 6-apb? <3

Cant wait to see what a dash of 5 adds to the mix!
 
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IDK man, I've never tried APB either haha. I'd like to at some point, but I think I'm going to put more time into trying to track down MDE first lol
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MDE was like a very mild euphoria paired with no desire to do anything other than sit in a hump and wait until it was over. you didn't want to talk or socialize, no urge to dance or move at all for that matter. we just sat there and listened to music until it was over then went to bed.

not that it wasn't pleasant....there just wasn't anything wow factor.

the whole "like the place between sleep and awake" analogy describes it very well.

Am happier than I have ever been, am more social than ive ever been and.... have you tried sex on 6-apb?
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said the same thing about MDMA...1.5 years later and I was a zombie. took 2 years to recover.
 
^ That's kind of what I want haha.. A nice light drug for home experiences.

Sounds AMAZING to take sitting around a subwoofer passing around a bong lol. I mainly want it to add to MDMA/MDA though, I LOVE being floored so I'd LOVE a drug that does just that haha
 
Although I havent taken mdma in months, I still think its an amazing substance. For me I think mdma is best as a medicine. It can really heal by reaching the parts other drugs cannot reach hehe. The best for raving for me has to be the 6-apb. Its like being a vibrating orgasm for 6 hours. With visuals. Mmmm <3
 
but it's not really being floored. not in the MDMA sense anyway. the whole experience is just underwhelming. not good or bad just kinda blah.

being floored on MDMA and you can't move beacuse your motor skills are shot. your thought process is shot...you feel too good to move :)

MDE...you can move if you have too...just don't wanna. I could stsrt a conversation...just don't care to. this CD ( I lived in the era od CD players :\) has repeated 3 times but I'm not getting up to change it.

it was really strange to watch me and all my friends, who normally would be petting each other, talking, playing with glow sticks...ect just sitting there. we all felt good but no one looked like they were have a great time. we just sat there. said very little. came down and went to bed.

I could see paring it with something else like shrooms or 2cx or something...but by itself...meh. but you are a "collector" of drug experinences it seems so go for it. I am in no way saying it was a bad experience...just not what I was looking for.
 
LOL...folley just kicked some dude's ass all over the pillreports.com comments. dude goes hard no matter what forum :)
 
folley,
when I asked you not to attack people it meant old users as well as the new ones... you can make those points (in a better way, IMO) without any comments on his personal life... it just leaves a bad taste in my mouth man.
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Hey, sometimes you have to be harsh to make a point. Life isn't all rainbows and kittens.. I like to think I never (intentionally) attack people though, and certainly leave any personal arguments out of it.

What I don't allow to stand is misinformation... from anyone!
 
This whole thread kinda reminds me of a conversation I had with a friend last night. (Some history: I only started using MDMA in the last 18 months, I live in South Africa where test kits aren't readily available, and it's only after discovering BL that I became aware of the importance of harm reduction/making sure your shit is legit.) So we were chatting about how regardless of where we've sourced our MDMA (or what we think is MDMA/MDxx) - be it dealers we 'know', random dealers at parties (not usually my style, but it has happened), via friends - we've never woken up the next morning and gone, 'Woah, what the fuck did I take?' Yes, I've had one or two less intense rolls, but everything I've ever been sold as MDMA produces the results you'd expect. Anyway, it turned into a long conversation about RCs and the fact that you just can't know without testing - it's as simple as that. The result? Instead of taking the two untested caps in my handbag, we just ended up drinking. +1 to responsibility
 
Dang, South Africa haha.. yeah I could see how it would be hard to get a tester there.

There are a few companies that ship worldwide though, and if that's just NOT an option you could just buy the chemicals to make it yourself. $10 of formaldehyde and sulfuric acid is enough for like 1000 tests lmao and it's not a hard process at all. There's a few threads on it if you want to search, or you can PM me and I'd be happy to try and help you get your hands on some kits haha :)


there's quite a few different companies selling them these days, I'm sure someone would ship to SA
 
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