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Another Gabapentin Question

Painkillerkhaos

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Since I am nearly out of my opiate supply (unless I run into a drastic accident) for an incredibly long time, my drug of choice has changed to Gabapentin. There are many reasons for this. The first reason is, for me the are very easily and cheaply obtained. Secondly, the high for me is a good high. Yes it does take about two hours to take effect, but it's worth the wait. To me the high comes on as a very energetic feeling. Like I overloaded on caffeine, and also have adhd (except I find it a lot easier to concentrate on things). Everything from my actions, my words, the world around, to even my thoughts seem to be working three to four times normal speed. Once that speed feeling tappers down, you get a lose limned, weightless, hazy type of feeling. Kind of like being drunk, but not in the head and you have total control of yourself. Then comes the worst part, the comedown. No the comedown isn't bad but the sleepiness is. The comedown makes you very tired,and it's near impossible to stay awake. I enjoy this high very much. The final reason I began to use is because after a lot of research I found it makes opiate withdrawal easier. Boy is that one true. My anxiety is gone, my sick feelings gone. As soon as that two hour mark, post consumption hits I forget I ever had withdrawal. For me it seems to stay away 24 hours after the dose kicks in. Once it stayed away 36 hours.

Now that you know why this is now my DOC, here's a few facts I picked up. I do know it's near impossible to overdose on this drug. So if I wanted to I could take the entire bottle and be, health wise fine. I also picked up that it takes in the 1000's of mg to obtain said high. For me my usual dosage is between 3000-4500. This is perfect for me. One down side to Gabapentin is the tolerance of the drug sky rockets after one dose. Not only did I read this, but I tested it as well. I had taken 3,300mg one night, and had a good night. The next night I figured if I double the dose it'd work fine. Well after all was said and done I tripled the dose (10,000mg) and had no effect at all. Now you can wait two days (First dose Friday night, try again Sunday) and you will get an effect just not as strong. Wait an extra day, you'll get a stronger effect but not as strong as the first. I found it was to wait about a week, or two if you want to obtain the same strength high.

Now in the past few days I found how to get the same high on less of the drug. By staggering the dose. For example if I take 300mg every 30 minutes by the time that two hour mark hits, I should feel pretty close to if I took 3000mg all at once (off of 1,200mg). This is because only so much Gabapentin can be absorbed at a time. It's a sneaky way to take less for the same high. It just might take an hour or two longer. If you need more information on stagger I'll add a link to the thread at the end of this sentence. Staggering Thread

To my question now. As I said tolerances goes up fast, as well as it goes down fast. I have yet to try staggering since today is day three after my last Gabapentin use, and I just found this thread yesterday. I want to know if there is anyway to make your tolerance go down quicker? Does staggering make it go down quicker? For example if I were to get high Monday, by swallowing the whole dose at once how can I get high again (full high) Wednesday or Thursday? Will staggering do it?
 
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im sorry this isnt much of a contribution to your thread but was your first dose 3k mgs? if so i would think you would have fucked up your tolerance by starting so high.

i got access to alot of gabapentin and i take 1200 mgs and i get like a stoned but clear headed feeling and the only reason i dont like it is because as you mentioned you get super sleepy. i take that shit and when i come down i can sleep for a good 12 hours straight.

its a very good tool for w/d but an even better one, which is similar would be pregablin(lyrica). its good for opie w/ds, anxiety, and its the closest thing to a weed high if your out of weed.

idk im just rambling but maybe try to space out your doses. i myself have never had a tolerance increase. i take anywhere from 4-10 or 11 of those 300mg capsules but i dont think i use as much as you cuz when i have weed id rather have that cuz i hate how sleepy the gabapentin makes me. idk if you can maybe mix it with some smoke (if you blaze) or try to space out your doses.

good luck OP.
 
Well I can take 3000mg, wait a few days then 3000mg will get me high again. Just the day or two after it wont do anything. Yes my first high was at 3000mg. It was my stupid fault though. I started off with 1000mg. Waited two hours, felt nothing took another 1000mg. Another two hours later I felt it but wanted it stronger, took another 1000mg.
 
Yea, Neurontin is known for rapid tolerance and your right you can take an awfully lot of it and not OD, only thing is when you do that you open yourself to the possibility of your body beginning to reject the drug.At least thats what happened to me. I used to kinda abuse in the exact way your saying and now cant take it anymore cause it makes my whole body heat up and inflames my head and hair follicles and then my hair falls out. I always found that if you fall back on the dose for yep 1-3 days and then go higher it will work again.

Thing is, Neurontin is an odd drug since it doesnt seem to be dose dependent meaning that if you are new to the drug and start low you can get a feeling thats just about as close as if you took a much higher dose. The best thing you could do if you can do it is to take a break for a couple of weeks or at least one week and then go back to it at a much lower dose. Then you could have some room to titrate up for a while, but you will most likely always need to take a break or lower the dose for a time if you want it to keep working. One thing you could try and if you can get that makes Neurontin stronger is vistaril. Its an antihistamine that is actually very easy to get and is known to synergize very well with it and make it stronger. A standard antihistamine like Benadryl might work as well but Im not postive about that.

Another interesting fact about Neurontin which is a little off topic of why your taking it, is that if you take neurontin BEFORE and opiate it will make the opiate not as strong but the opiate will actually make the Neurontin even stronger. On the other hand, If you take Neurontin AFTER the opiate has taken effect, the opiate will make the Neurontin much stronger without making the opiate weaker. I agree however, that Neurontin and Lyrica are both the bomb for withdrawals but suck for me since I cant take either due to the bad side effects. Just be careful taking too much cause I think thats what caused me to get to where I started responding badly to it. Then again I know thats hard as I also really loved the stuff too!
 
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i dumped out the powder of 7 300mg capsules into a dixie cup and barely covered it with some water stirred it and gulped it down

it tasted like shit but 4 hours later and i still feel no anxiety, slight body high. its not that bad

maybe take a break and then try again idk
 
Okay so lastnight I tried the tappering dose after a four day break. Passed out before effects hit me (because I started at 3am). So if I only took 1000mg spaced out will 3000-4000 get me high tonight or too soon?
 
Gabapentin builds a tolerance so fast even within 2 days! It's crazy, but yeah i take it as prescribed at 900mg to try and help with anxiety it has helped a little bit, but i think i have to bump up the dosage for it to help more. It's suppose to help with opiate withdrawals etc
 
Why not starting pregabalin instead of gabapentin with it's dosing issues? Pregabalin has a 90% BA, but i read about parachuting to do by emptying pregablin capsules into a piece of paper and to swallow that fast only i really donmt think something lika that is needed with pregabalin.
With pregabalin i take my 900 mg daily dose and yes it takes 3 hours and a little joint, but by then the combined effects of my methadone, 50 oxazepam, seroquel 300, and the 900 mg pregabalin act and i like pregabalin best hand down.

One reason why it takes 3 hours before pregabalin starts to produce a noticeable effect is that by then a lot of glutamate is changed into gaba trough decarboxylase something so more gaba and less unwanted neurotransmitters from other stypes like substance P is suppressed, nor adrenaline is suppressed (never fully oufcorse), glutamate lowers in favo for more GABA and there were also words about his well this med can help against untractable neurologically caused pains.

Some read elsewhere made me see that gabapentin and pregabalin have no cross tolerance??
 
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Id have thought that gabapentin and pregabalin were defo cross tolerant. Thier method of actions are almost identical and pregabalin is the parent drug of gabapentin. For my money though its got to be pregabalin, it takes a lot less then with gabapentin, plus the gabapentin plays havoc with my indigestion.lol try tramadol with pregabalin, absolutley mind blowing combo.:-D
 
Kratom with lyrica is great as well. When I take mine I usually just open up the capsule a bit in my mouth and chase it with water.
 
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Never tried kratom myself, always meant too but then started getting anxiety problems and wasnt sure if it would aggravate them.lol all opiate/opioid type drugs seem to mix well with the gabaergics.
 
Hi folks. GABA had really helped me with my withdraws, a huge relief. That said I rather enjoy the buzz from it, however as a smoker I find it makes cigarettes nasty. Also sex seems virtually impossible while on GABA. I was wondering if these effects are common for others. Is there GABA/neurotin mega thread?
 
Does anyone else become like"Rainman"on high doses of Gaba,or Preg?I find myself able to absorb knowledge better while on either...Lower doses tend to make my thoughts strange and random...Anyone?...
 
Hi folks. GABA had really helped me with my withdraws, a huge relief. That said I rather enjoy the buzz from it, however as a smoker I find it makes cigarettes nasty. Also sex seems virtually impossible while on GABA. I was wondering if these effects are common for others. Is there GABA/neurotin mega thread?

Just for future reference it's best not to refer to gabapentin as "GABA" because GABA is the name of a neurotransmitter which can also be taken as a drug (usually available as an OTC supplement), so it could cause some confusion.

I've noticed the same thing with smoking, I still crave cigarettes but then when I have one I don't enjoy it and am like "ugh, this is gross, why I am smoking?"

Here is the megathread: Gabapentin(aka neurontin) Mega Thread and FAQ's
 
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