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Tryptamines The Big & Dandy DMT Thread - The 6th Recursion

To be honest I have found meth oil burners and base stems with a cone at the top of the stem, with steel wool in to be the easiest way to breakthrough so far. I haven't tried any of these newfangled pipes - all hi-tech and shit - they're a waste of money in my opinion. But hey, that's just my opinion - some people like smoking toys. I like to keep it simple.
 
I have heard several times that the hydrochloride salt of DMT does not form crystals. on the other hand, shulgin writes in TiHKAL about forming DMT HCl. so is this just a rumour without any truth in it? or does perhaps only impure DMT make problems when trying to form the hydrochloride salt?
 
I have heard several times that the hydrochloride salt of DMT does not form crystals. on the other hand, shulgin writes in TiHKAL about forming DMT HCl. so is this just a rumour without any truth in it? or does perhaps only impure DMT make problems when trying to form the hydrochloride salt?

Actually, Shulgin states in TiHKAL that he could not make the HCl salt. He quotes a procedure from the literature that claimed to make the HCl salt, but states that Manske, who made DMT first, obtained the HCl salt as a yellow resin that had to be dried under vacuum over KOH to give a brittle porous solid.
 
Actually, Shulgin states in TiHKAL that he could not make the HCl salt. He quotes a procedure from the literature that claimed to make the HCl salt, but states that Manske, who made DMT first, obtained the HCl salt as a yellow resin that had to be dried under vacuum over KOH to give a brittle porous solid.
thank you for pointing that out! I should have read more carefully.
 
i use a machine style pipe, with plastic tubing to a jar with water. Machine style w/ filtration. You need the water filter , cause some peeps make some toxic ass dmt
 
I just purchased 200 mg freebase... No experience. What is this "machine"?

Would a regular "meth" pipe work?

Also, I have found a source for Changa, something I have never paid much attention to but this is 1/3rd DMT and 2/3rds harmine.. I guess. From what little I read some prefer the Changa.

What do people think here?
 
right i have a chance at trying this stuff so 2 questions should it be white in colour and -snip- Price discussion is not allowed ~Jesusgreen?
 
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Dmt can be white, yellow, or other colors I'm sure. Color does not indicate potency. No one can id a substance based on color.

Price discussion is against the rules.
 
cheers i know the colour wont tell you potency just wanted to know if what if white was one of the colours it can be
 
Am wondering how old/mature a Mimosa Hostilis tree must be in order for it to be worth sacrificing from the Earth?
 
never sacrifice a mimosa tree. just cut off a little bit of rootbark but NEVER kill the tree who is giving you the substance. THat is a recipe for disaster (bad karma).
 
when you say everything turned into a phosphene could you describe to me exactly what you mean?
 
Regarding the 5meo-DMT?

Kind of like a brief moment of this http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Phosphene_artistic_depiction.gif
but more cellular with a tactile feeling, everything compressing into one and a feeling of all possibilities flashing at once, combined with a build up to 'zero-time', then a white out, but so much confusion and speed. It didn't feel as alien and wierd as DMT. I suppose I am clutching at straws to describe somethings - sorry.

I remember feeling that the universe is everything and ALL possibilities, how could it be any other way? The feeling/realizing of ALL possibilities beyond just the concept, was transcendent. I didn't feel anything transcendent with DMT, just total shock and complete idiosyncrasy.

I am trying not to describe it too much or throw too many words at it as all they do is muddy the water and make you sound scatty and hippy-ish.

Hope this has made sense
 
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How does brown DMT compare to white or yellow? I had 500mg of brown. We smoked it with my friend and never made full breakthrough. At best I got some good visuals from 80mg. Smoked from bong with layer of bud beneath and on top. If I'll ever get DMt or 5-MeO-DMT, I'll make "the machine".
 
How does brown DMT compare to white or yellow? I had 500mg of brown. We smoked it with my friend and never made full breakthrough. At best I got some good visuals from 80mg. Smoked from bong with layer of bud beneath and on top. If I'll ever get DMt or 5-MeO-DMT, I'll make "the machine".

I find that weed prevents me from breaking through try mixing it with some basil, mint leaves, or something similar if you are using bowl. Did you make sure to empty the water out since dmt is water soluble and lots will get lost if you're using water filtration.
 
How does brown DMT compare to white or yellow? I had 500mg of brown. We smoked it with my friend and never made full breakthrough. At best I got some good visuals from 80mg. Smoked from bong with layer of bud beneath and on top. If I'll ever get DMt or 5-MeO-DMT, I'll make "the machine".

Impossible to say, the brown / yellow / red color that DMT can have are impurities that may be active or inactive. For example if they are plant oils, the product will be less potent by weight and the resulting smoke may very well be harsher to inhale.
On the other hand if they are unidentified alkaloids found in the so-called 'jungle spice' the product could be more intense even than pure synthetic DMT and the subjective quality of the trip can be different as well. Some say deeper, darker and heavier. Indeed the strongest I think I ever had was red DMT, better than synthetic it seems... although I have no way of quantifying how much I was able to inhale effectively of either product.
Also note that white(ish) DMT may not be pure either: there are possible impurities that add no color.

So, considering the general rule: you cannot qualify a drug judging by color. But at the same time there may be some correlation: for example I'd say that if the color is positively red there is more of a chance there are jungle spice alkaloids in there while brown or yellow coloration are probably more likely to be inactives like plant matter crap or DMT N-oxide.
Also I'd say that if you produce white DMT there is a fair chance that it will be good quality because impurities tend to be yellow or brown colored, generally speaking. And if your product is crystalline that is an extra indication of purity because the more pure a (re)X-ing mother liquor solution is, the bigger crystals can be formed. Also, the better the crystallization procedure (such as very slow cooling from a well saturated soln.), the bigger crystals. And the bigger the crystals, the more pure it is because impurities disrupt the crystal lattice.
 
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Is DMT n-oxide active?
Ive had some DMT stored away in a vial and a dark cool place for about 3 years now. It definitely has become darker in color, i think due to oxidation. Just wondering if it will still be as good as the day i made it.
 
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