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Using pipes to smoke bad in the longrun? My lungs feel bad.

szuko000 said:
Just because the water changes color does not mean its filtering out the tar. Ash and other particles can change the color. I remain confident that compounds insoluble in water are not removed by the water. How can something that does not dissolve in water be removed by water. Unless the coloring causes these compounds to get to heavy to travel in the smoke but I think that's also unlikely.

Also the amount of needed compounds to prevent cancer most likely would not be present in enough concentration to be considered useful in a smoking session. Also any standing body of water will grow bacteria.

As far as ODing I dont see how that's relivent. The risk of OD does not prove something is harmful or that it is not safe.
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Yes... I agree with you lol. Did you not read my post, or were you tryna quote the dude I quoted.

Maybe I didn't make it clear though, I meant that shit that gunks up all nasty in bong water after a while is likely just from ashes that get past the bowl screen, and some people have no screens at all so they are getting all their burnt weed in the water and obviously that shit sits in still water and gets nasty over a few weeks lol.
 
pbuilder said:
As far as I know, their has never been a recorded death caused by cannabis OD, or any proof of cancer caused by cannabis smoking. In fact, their have been studies that prove cannabis smokers do NOT increase their risk of lung cancer, and smaller studies that have shown cannabis can in fact actually lessen a persons likely hood of cancer. About the hung in the bong, I always assumed that was from ash/weed pulling through into the bong water and people being to lazy to replace their water after each session, thus because cannabis is a plant, it will begin to grow bacteria and other nasty shit if it sits in still water...
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not sure what your on about dude? i havnt ever said ganja causes cancer - and i certainly havnt ever claimed ganja has taken a life or caused a death! cancer from spin/tobacco sure yeh, nicotine etc. i asked the captain if he knew anything about ganja causing cancer particularly the high tar content of ganja but thanks for your contribution anyway.

in regards to the bong water what im trying to get at is that it obviously filters a hell of a lot of ash/shit etc. cause its caught in the h2o...you do not get that with a pipe...i hate pipes cause you usually end up with with ash and tar in your mouth/throat/lungs and that cannot be good for your lungs...i dunno if it causes cancer but it doesnt take a genius to realise its (tar/shit/etc.) not good for you.

i know a good family friend that has seemingly cured a couple skin cancers on his arm and neck from applying hash oil regularly, there are studies being or been done but im not gonna do your homework for you.

would you prefer to have all that 'hung' inhaled into your mouth/throat/lungs or have it filtered? the h2o may not filter everything but it filters more than a shitty pipe does ime!

i still fail to see any proof evidence in either of your arguments? please elaborate! i think perhaps you have misinterpreted my down under aussie colloquialisms or you are just too stoned to put your thoughts/arguments in order...no offence im pretty drunk and benzod atm myself...hope this makes sense haha. but go team you! :)

ps i think id back chainers credibility (considering he went out of his way to provide resources) over either of your opinions but thats besides the point everyones welcome to an opinion lol

pps thats why a long pipe/chillum/bong is better because a lot of the tar is stuck to the inside of the smoking implement...a tissue over the mouthpiece also helps...i have a bamboo bong that is black all the way up the inside from collecting/catching tar over the years...short shitty pipes there is less chance of any filtration or tar sticking anywhere besides inside of the toker, be that mouth, throat, or lungs. ime even with a quality italian made chillum or fine screen in your pipe you still end up sucking in ash and debris which doesnt happen when filtered through a decent bong
 
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1394 said:
who the fuck new Chainer was a smart-arse.
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would you give up your time to moderate an online forum for no pay & seemingly zero respect? i seriously doubt it...hope your having a good weekend :)

i thought it was cool he left the oftentimes people thread open for a bit...that was a quality thread haha no other lazy stoners could be fucked keeping it going with comments besides ho chi...which is typical of us stoners i guess.
 
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Do you do any cardiovascular exercise at all frequently?

Also how often do you smoke, and how much do you smoke?

Take a tolerance break and get more into cardio exercise.

This will help your lungs a lot. When I smoked herb even when for a short period of time I was a daily smoker and would smoke multiple times a day I still did a lot of cardio and it helped.

Now that there are vaporizers that are cheap, and just as effective as the overpriced and over hyped Volcano brand I would get one of those the magic flight launch box is discrete and small. No I don't work for them.

You can even hook up a vape to a bong.
 
Personally I feel that bongs are the most economical but probably the least healthy way of smoking weed (apart from maybe blunts) because you take a way bigger and deeper hit than you would off a pipe or joint for example. Also, I think that smoking bongs long term causes some water vapour to enter the lungs, it doesn't seem feasible to me that all that hot smoke could be passing through the water regularly and not cause any water to evaporate, especially if one is lazy with changing their bong water.

I have smoked weed daily for years and though most of the time was almost exclusively bongs, I have gone several month periods where all I would smoke were dry pipes and/or joints. Everytime I would switch my method from bongs my lungs would start to feel healthier within weeks. One thing I will note is that I am from Australia and we do mix tobacco with our weed before we smoke it in a bong, I definately think tobacco through a bong is bad news and probably made the effect on my lungs a lot worse, that said, I was also mixing with tobacco whilst smoking dry pipes and spliffs so this shouldn't make much difference in terms of how my lungs are feeling.

I would say a dry pipe (especially a glass one as opposed to metal) is the healthiest way to consume annabis apart from vaping or eating it. Just my 2c.
 
But smoking it straight from a bong (water) does leave a lot of stuff behind in it- over time. I imagine there is benefit to that. Then again, pipes also collect a lot.

Pipes and bongs you often light it every time... and depending on how you feel about butane..

Edible definitely healthiest. Vaporization not bad but I- at least for me... want to get away from anything that alters my breathing.

My lungs gave been begging me to stop- too.
 
Idk i smoke pipes and blunts mainly.
I've had a chronic cough for years now, but it feels like it's mainly in my throat.

My pipe is dirty as hell, i tried to clean it with alcohol and salt but didnt work...i'd like a clean one tho.

I smoke cigs too.
 
Twentysix, although I don't use them myself you do get hemp wicks that you can light and then use those to light bongs and pipes so that can eliminate the butane issue.
 
laugh said:
would you give up your time to moderate an online forum for no pay & seemingly zero respect? i seriously doubt it...hope your having a good weekend :)

i thought it was cool he left the oftentimes people thread open for a bit...that was a quality thread haha no other lazy stoners could be fucked keeping it going with comments besides ho chi...which is typical of us stoners i guess.
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*rolls eyes*

I was referring to his avatar and was just joking ffs
 
1394 said:
*rolls eyes*

I was referring to his avatar and was just joking ffs
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8) :) ffs I'm a moderator sychophant, alright, busted?! i didnt know what the hell that avatar was about until now, cheers.

i get snappy when i give the ganja a break...my problem sorry dude!! I'm the one that looks like the douche...
 
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laugh said:
8) :) ffs I'm a moderator sychophant, alright, busted?! i didnt know what the hell that avatar was about until now, cheers.

i get snappy when i give the ganja a break...my problem sorry dude!! I'm the one that looks like the douche...
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it's ok meng no sweat
 
OP should invest in portable vaporizer, personally I'm not MFLB fan, it doesn't really get me high but a ton of people swear by it.

I don't think eating edibles all day is a good idea just for the fact it becomes too easy to get too stoned and unproductive...Although for pain issues edibles take the cake someone using for rec. purposes is prolly better off smoking/vaping IMO.
 
i recently went to me dr
i was so worried about lung pain, was convinced it was cancer. This is what i was told, if there is no history of cancer in your family and you're under 40 then its unlilely to be cancer.
he diagnosed acid reflux and gave me some omeprozole....not 100% convinced and not taking the omeprazole, but have noticed that my 'lung pain' gets worse when i cant be bothered to eat....so maybe he's on to something...

i know OP didnt mention cancer....just thought i'd share coz 'lung pain' can be worrying and it took my years to see anyone about it....i did ask if lungs were capable of feeling pain...but didnt get a answer
 
5aday said:
Definitely invest in a vaporizer if you can. A vaporizer will actually save you money in the long run because you use much less weed when you vape vs. smoking it. May not be the easiest thing to hide though.
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dis dat bla bla bla bla

5aday knows his stuff <3

Invest in something like the Vivape. Fuck iolites, wisprs and mflb's. If you're a heavy smoker like your original post suggests... You would be much better off with ViVape 2 / Airizer Solo / Buddha / Vapir NO2. Much better build quality, much better vapes :D it's win win everywhere except maybe price.
 
Bongs are just as devastating for you lungs it just feels less because the water cools down the smoke which cause a whole new set of problems. If you lungs are that sore you have 4 options. 1. quit 2. vape 3. edibles 4. or smoke less.
 
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