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thenightwatch said:
the 2-Fluoro analogue of ketamine was made by a university in the middle east (University of Iran maybe? i forget). i feel like the 2-Fluoro is going to be the winner out of all the 2-Halos. who knows tho.
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Why haven't any of these alternate halo versions of ketamine hit the RC market, seems perfect to me. If all your doing is changing the chlorine to another halo I would think it would be a very safe thing to sell from a legal standpoint, ketamine being schedule 3 and for instance 2-fluoroketamine being directly analogous to ketamine. Not like methoxetamine where it could be easily argued that its an analog of PCE (eticyclidine) a schedule 1 substance.
 
I don't think the case for methoxetamine being an analog of PCE is much stronger that the case for iodinated/brominated ketathings being analogs of PCE.
 
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Any guesses what this might be like? Allegedly it has been produced once by mistake instead of 4-meo-pcp
 
4-mmc prodrug if the metabolic route for dimethylcathinone holds true



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylcathinone

How shitty would 4-methyl-N-methylpseudoephedrine be is the question? Since dimethylcathinone metabolizes into methcathinone and N-methylpseudoephedrine. My 4-mmc prodrug would prolly be absolute hell on blood pressure and heart rate...pity.
 
dimethylamphetamine is pretty shit compared to methamp, I imagine "dimephedrone" would be similarly crap. It would also be active in its own right and so not a prodrug.
 
too lazy to draw it out right now, but did nichols or whomever ever make any n-methyl-indole phenethylamines? (i.e. 25x-NBOMe but with an indole instead of the methoxyphenyl)
 
ah, i guess i should have actually drawn out the molecule i was thinking of

i didn't mean replace the phenethylamine part with a tryptamine. i meant replace the other side of the molecule, the methoxyphenyl, with an indole instead. i know they made the methylenedioxyphenyl version, but did they make an indole version?

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25I-NIndMe?
 
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klfiend said:
4-mmc prodrug if the metabolic route for dimethylcathinone holds true



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethylcathinone

How shitty would 4-methyl-N-methylpseudoephedrine be is the question? Since dimethylcathinone metabolizes into methcathinone and N-methylpseudoephedrine. My 4-mmc prodrug would prolly be absolute hell on blood pressure and heart rate...pity.
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Isnt 4-MMC itself metabolized to 4-methyl-N-pseudoephedrine? Keto groups get metabolized to hydroxy groups in general, at least I thought so.
 
thenightwatch said:
ah, i guess i should have actually drawn out the molecule i was thinking of

i didn't mean replace the phenethylamine part with a tryptamine. i meant replace the other side of the molecule, the methoxyphenyl, with an indole instead. i know they made the methylenedioxyphenyl version, but did they make an indole version?

2ajthdy.jpg


25I-NIndMe?
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so this stuff hasn't been made before?
 
2-nitroamphetamine/4-nitroamphetamine

Can anybody tell something about this?
Is it even possible? Active?
 
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