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Bluelighter
I agree with AE to an extent. No excuse when it comes to 13 year olds though.
Knockando
I actually agree, the law is not the issue. As others have said, taking advantage of (physical or emotional) power is one part of it, and ability to consent is another part.
Do you think it's OK for a 20 year old man or a 13 year old boy to have sex with a 13 year old girl?
Artificial Emotion
the point I'm trying to make is that ethically, a girl or boy doesn't magically become old enough to have sexual relationships the minute he/she turns 16. It's not all black and white, there are shades of grey...In addition, an 18 year old having a sexual relationship with a 15 year old is a lot different that a 50 year old having a sexual relationship with the same young person.
To be honest it's difficult to have a conversation about this sort of thing because the whole subject brings on a moral panic and all logic and rational discussion can easily go out the window.
The reports I've read about Savile claim the sex was not consensual and more than a little coercion was involved.
These were clearly not cases of frisky 15year olds throwing themselves at a celebrity and willing indulging in a sex. The reports from the victims clearly indicate he targeted and manipulated vulnerable young people into very one sided and downright unpleasant sex acts.
I'm not really hung up about the age of consent here, there is at least one count of rape that I am aware of and that is not because the girl was under age but because she did not consent to sex with Savile.
Although it may be in that place, I would still say anyone from the UK who goes to Thailand and fucks a 14 year old is morally corrupt.
Anyone who went to Thailand and did that would be a paedo and get the jail. Age of consent is 18 in Thailand.
Yes because as we all know laws and those who enforce them work so effectively in Thailand :D
Spade, the people that control the bar girls you go with will have close connections to child sex rings so the two industries are deeply entwined. It will suit you to deny or ignore this fact, you'll say they're just independant women who know what they want, but it true.
Only you could ignore these blatant truths that the entire world knows about because you want to get your willy wet.
Oh you and thousands of other sad bastards that make the regular pilgrimage.
I'm not saying that a 45 year old going out with a 15 year old could ever be right, the point I'm trying to make is that ethically, a girl or boy doesn't magically become old enough to have sexual relationships the minute he/she turns 16. It's not all black and white, there are shades of grey. Some 15 year olds will be more emotionally mature than a lot of 18 year olds so to say all sexual conduct with anyone under 16 is wrong means you would not be taking into consideration the nuances and complexities of the sexual development of young people.
I know a guy who went to thailand on holiday, decided to stay there and married a whore, his wife and kid he left back in the uk were well pissed off, she was left paying the mortgage on their house aswell.
This actually does my nut in. Spade done some shady things in Thailand. Shady things that folk do here all the time. "I'll call you tomorrow" then delete the number etc. He has never once said he fucked a "bar girl".
He didn't, you're right. Then again it's not the kind of thing you'd readily admit to, is it?
But do you honestly believe it was his ginger good looks, sparkling personality, effervescent wit and charm that led them to have casual sex with him so readily? :D