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How to dose my gf - "first" timer

Jesusgreen said:
I say take one - split the other in half and if she feels like a redose then give her that half at around ~T+1:00 to T+1:30 :) If she doesn't feel like it then save those two halves for another day :)

Ask her how strong she found 80mg though - if she found that quite strong then I'd go with 3/4 of the first pill and 1/4 to 1/2 as a redose if necessary.
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This.

A good dosage for a beginner (or second time user) is 110mg - 150mg.

I would take the same amount that she takes too man.
 
At the end of it all this has to fall down to a personal decision.


There are basically 3 options:

Initial med dose with top up as required

Initial high dose leave it at that

Low dose build up as required


As long as the overall total dose remains the same and top ups dont fall into a +6 hour period I think in terms of HR there is no right or wrong answer.

I dont think any option is less or more harmful than the other as long as an OD threshold is not reached.

In terms of slow start build up you lose the initial come up intensity. But are safe in terms of possibley too intense.

Or you opt for intense start but risk the possibility of things being to overwhelming.

The choice is yours..
 
On my first molly experience , i found 100mg a lil bit disapoiting ! ( I weight 130 lbs ) Dropping 150mg at once would of mademe so much happier ! But ofc she is a girl so she might be afraid of dropping a pill and a quater for her first time. Anyway , i really do think that 1 pill should clearly make the job. Btw , i dont recommend redosing 2 hours after the initial dose , it will not intensify the roll as much as if it would of been dropped within the 2 hours.. ( Sorry if this last sentence looks messy xD )
 
squarerootof23 said:
If I word this correctly, there should be something in this response to offend everyone.

1) I'm not an expert on this, I thought that redosing greatly increases the risk of toxicity. You should check that out. (For myself I don't need to know for sure whether that's true, because I don't redose.) If that is true about redosing, and you have any love for this person, you should not have her redose.

2) For myself, I found titrating mdma to be pretty tricky. For me I found that there is a *very* narrow range of milligrams that works well for me. But, I went to the effort of securing a fairly large amount of a single batch of known mdma so I knew I was always dealing with the same potency substance. Also, I took some time in advance to think this through and define for myself what "works well" means. I decided I wasn't going to get obsessed with chasing the "perfect" roll, I decided I was quite happy with a really good roll.

3) What does *she* want? How aware is she of the issues involved? I'm assuming you're not doing this just for your own giggles. (I hope not.)

4) Some people in previous postings seemed to be saying that going up to 150 mg - or even more? - should likely be alright. I don't know about that. I'd go with what futura said in posting #4 above (especially since his reported experience with mdma is pretty extensive, I don't know how the experience of the other posters stacks up against his experience). Here: I'm a man, 170 pounds (don't know how many stones that is for you UKers ;) ). If I go over 120 mg, I have great, great difficulty remembering much of what happened. Well, wouldn't that be epic for her: "Yeah, I really don't know whether I gained anything from taking mdma - I can't recall anything about the experience." I understand we're all a little different in terms of sensitivities to doses, which is why I recommend you do what futura advised. She'll likely enjoy it a lot, and will certainly remember it. Otherwise, if she can't remember much of it, it won't be much of a shared experience you two will be able to jointly enjoy recalling in the future, will it?

5) I feel I must say this. I don't know how old you two are, but if you're really young, something crazy like only 16, you guys shouldn't be doing this at all. You're too young, you ought to focus on how to grow into young adults first. And.... If you're in your 40s, ignore what I just wrote. Sorry to get preachy.

6) Ok, I thought about it a little more, the truth is I'm not sorry that I got preachy.
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1) i have read this somewhere also. That's making me think that we should only take one initial high dose.

3)She wants to "roll balls". She's pretty aware of everything but i'm concerned that she wouldn't be able to handle the initial intensity because she has no experience with drugs at all. i would NEVER do this for my own giggles, that's just messed up..

5)we're in college, both living together. we both have amazing grades so i think we're allowed to have a great night.
 
Just another quick addition... she'll prob feel like she's rolling balls no matter what - especially if she doesn't have a lot to judge it by, has a normal sized dose, and the last time (ie., first time) she did it was 80mg and "shady". :)
 
patra said:
Just another quick addition... she'll prob feel like she's rolling balls no matter what - especially if she doesn't have a lot to judge it by, has a normal sized dose, and the last time (ie., first time) she did it was 80mg and "shady". :)
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are you saying that because she wouldn't know what it feels like or because she has a low tolerance?
 
hooooouse said:
I was thinking of doing something like that, but she wouldnt really know how much more she would be able to handle.. thats my main concern, if that makes sense...

btw she's 135 so she's not exactly "tiny"
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depending on hieght 135 could be pretty small tho she'd prob be over 5'8" for that to be the case

as other said if you know thier is 100-120 in these pills then 1 should suffice

some dont like it n it harder to do with tabs but imo there isnt anything wrong with dropping 100mg n then seeing how u feel n an hour n if you feel doin a 20-30mg bump of mdma but thats just my opinion

and you said she has only smoked weed 2x so your worried she might not be able to handle the roll

IMO getting someone too high can be more difficult for a bginner (anxiety n what not) then an intense roll but thats just my opinion, sure you can overdue both n ultimately weed is safer to "overdose" with but i think some will understand what im saying
 
hooooouse said:
are you saying that because she wouldn't know what it feels like or because she has a low tolerance?
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Sorry should have been more specific there... I guess I kind of meant because of both reasons... probably more because she doesn't have tolerance so it will affect her a lot, and also because your "true" first time always feels like you're rolling out of your mind (based on what I've heard from everyone, and myself!). I say your "true" first time because as you suggest in the original post and thread title, the last time she tried it it wasn't really legit, right...

Just my suggestion! It's sweet you're putting in so much consideration to your girl's first time and you're trying to get it exactly right. You should let us know what you end up doing and how she likes it, what her experience was like.
 
patra said:
Sorry should have been more specific there... I guess I kind of meant because of both reasons... probably more because she doesn't have tolerance so it will affect her a lot, and also because your "true" first time always feels like you're rolling out of your mind (based on what I've heard from everyone, and myself!). I say your "true" first time because as you suggest in the original post and thread title, the last time she tried it it wasn't really legit, right...

Just my suggestion! It's sweet you're putting in so much consideration to your girl's first time and you're trying to get it exactly right. You should let us know what you end up doing and how she likes it, what her experience was like.
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Thanks, will do!
 
I'm going to say that 80-100mg is literally a fine dose for a newbie, providing the product is good. If anyone watched the recent drugs live thing on channel 4 people were experiencing strong effects from 83mg of pharmaceutical grade MDMA and i'm 100% convinced that the 'mandy' we buy on the streets is not all too dissimilar. My first roll literally can't have been more than 90mg's and it was beautiful. 100mg's has my eyes rolling into the back of my head and my jaw is like a cow eating grass.

I'm gunna agree with Futura and say start low. If she had 80mg before and loved it, why not do it again!?
 
Ask what she wants.


If she thinks she's scared or apprehensive about it... maybe go for a lower dose. But if SHE wants to experience the whole roll and get the most out of the experience, she'll dose the whole pill. Show her this thread, and let HER decide.

100mg's has my eyes rolling into the back of my head and my jaw is like a cow eating grass.
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I don't see how that's a bad thing :?
 
thing on channel 4 people were experiencing strong effects from 83mg of pharmaceutical grade MDMA
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Just to add to the annoyance of that programme it was infact 100mG of MDMA HCL. When you watch the start of the programme you see the bottle and you see them scale 0.1000g. They even get the 83 wrong when it shoud be 84. That programme narked me beyond belief.

Show her this thread, and let HER decide.
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That is a brilliant thing to say.
 
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atta boy!

Definitely go for the whole pill at once then. That should have you in love with the couch, gurning and making love to the music... but it probably won't leave you melting into the concrete too floored to keep your eyes straight.. which is where I aim to be


^ lol
 
Plug 120mg straight up her arsehole ! It will hit the sweet spot.
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:D :D I think we can conclude the OP should now have every option available.

I guess if the OP does chose to stuff pills up his GFs ass how many? I assume the dosing requirements would be the same?
 
^ Yeah, roughly the same. It just comes on a lot faster, and is a tad more intense than normal. Never tried it with MDMA though, but since meth has a 99% rectal BA I'm not too ashamed to admit I've used it in that RoA with favorable results before


1000 times better than snorting, at least
 
Folley said:
Ask what she wants.


If she thinks she's scared or apprehensive about it... maybe go for a lower dose. But if SHE wants to experience the whole roll and get the most out of the experience, she'll dose the whole pill. Show her this thread, and let HER decide.



I don't see how that's a bad thing :?
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Well, it is and it isn't. I'm not a massive fan of being completely fucked up and out of it which does happen, it tends to feel less euphoric and more 'stoney' which I just don't like.
 
100mg-120mg is fine for a first timer. once you're up it can't really be too intense or anything because all traces of anxiety are gone.
 
I gave my friend 120mg of tested crystal MDMA and he couldn't see peoples faces he was so fucked. He enjoyed it but didn't get the euphoria, more the stoney effects that I mentioned. I quite simply think its too much, the same night I took 120mg and was also really fucked up - i'm basically a newbie. When lowered to 100mg I had a far more enjoyable time, still gurned my tits off and had my eyes rolling into the back of my head for a good hour or so but it was more euphoric and less intensely stoney and sedating.

Thats just my opinion.
 
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