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How to dose my gf - "first" timer

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I have 4 pills that have around 100-120mg each. maybe more, thats from a beginners guess.. but anyway. She has dropped once before, but only 80mg of this really shady stuff and that was around a year ago. And from that alone, she "had an amazing time".

I was planning on giving 2 to her. 1 + 1 to redose. But the more i think about it, the more im worried that she wont be able to handle the roll.. She has only smoked weed about twice and thats about it.. would this be too extreme for her? I'm starting to think i should cut one in half or something..
 
try 3/4 of a pill at first, if she likes it give her the other quarter 60-90min after the first dose. girls, especially tiny girls, need less than a larger man would
 
I was thinking of doing something like that, but she wouldnt really know how much more she would be able to handle.. thats my main concern, if that makes sense...

btw she's 135 so she's not exactly "tiny"
 
I think x2 120mG pills for a girls second MDMA dose is way too high.

I agree with Dmytry 1 pill would be ample. I might even suggest a half first then half later but either suggestion would be okay.
 
Why does everyone love lowballing doses lately? I don't agree with posters above.

If she has taken 80mg and loved it she will be perfectly fine with 120mg. Its not like you can really over dose. If its too much she will still be loving it...

I find 100-150 a good dose even for first timers/beginners...

The thing is your initial dose is most important. If you half ass your first dose, you will get a half ass roll. Just my 2 cents.
 
I'm 150lbs and 5'7" (not fat... haha... but not tiny...) - I've typically had half a pill (ie., , and then another half after an hour or so - and that's always been awesome. Next time I'm considering doing 3/4th a pill and redosing the other 1/4th after an hour. I think if she had a shady one last time and it was a small dose, only increase it slightly.... ie., give her 100mg, see how she's feeling on the come-up, then maybe give her the rest (20-40mg?).
 
Just go with your original plan. Give her 1 to start. Redose 1 more 1.5-2hrs later.

Enjoy.
 
The initial dose is so important, it is generally advised not to re-dose at all.

What pills do you have? You can't know the dose without testing, and unless you have reagents, it could be piperazine or possibly worse... you don't want to get your girl sick. Trust me, you'll feel like a shit head.


Just take the whole pill. It was probably meant as one dose, so splitting it up or taking more most likely won't help anything.

Underdosing MDMA is a bitch, but if you overdose by 20mg you won't feel anything except even happier at how fucked up you are. IMO, an MDMA overdose isn't something you need to worry about unless your taking like 180+


I weigh 105 pounds, and I can take 150mg just fine
 
It took so long for my girls to grow nuts and drop a full dose. Now she thanks me for always trying to get her to eat a full dose.

Me and my girl are small people and we never dose under 150mg of MDMA.... 150mg mdma is a sweet spot for me then another 50 mg dose when im peaking...
 
Folley said:
The initial dose is so important, it is generally advised not to re-dose at all.

What pills do you have? You can't know the dose without testing, and unless you have reagents, it could be piperazine or possibly worse... you don't want to get your girl sick. Trust me, you'll feel like a shit head.


Just take the whole pill. It was probably meant as one dose, so splitting it up or taking more most likely won't help anything.

Underdosing MDMA is a bitch, but if you overdose by 20mg you won't feel anything except even happier at how fucked up you are. IMO, an MDMA overdose isn't something you need to worry about unless your taking like 180+


I weigh 105 pounds, and I can take 150mg just fine
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These are for sure clean pills. i have taken them before, same batch and everything. Last time i took one and redosed another 1 an hour later. would that roll feel different than if i dropped two at once? everyone is saying something different about redosing so im confused. would it make the peak longer, what is even the point of redosing? i never understood that.

and im not worried about her ODing but rolling so hard that she cant handle the intensity. she has only smoked weed twice and im sure doesnt understand how controlling of the mind something like this can be..

sorry for so many questions, i want to have the best experience possible though for her almost "first" time.
 
You've got to take it a little easy on first-timers. Turn her on to the experience, not off - it will suck if you know your GF had a bad experience rolling, somehow, because it was too intense or too much to handle, and she doesn't want to give it another go next time you want to roll.

Either give her half a pill to start with, and then another half after she's come up (ie., an hour from dosing) or give her 3/4ths of the pill and then the other 1/4th an hour later. I feel like this will give her some semblance of control, which is important if you feel like the previous "first time" she rolled might not have been the full experience because of the quality of it. She doesn't have a high tolerance at the moment, and even dosing half and a half or 3/4ths and 1/4th later will be far beyond Shulgin's threshold, which is probably accurate for her given her tolerance and experience. She absolutely doesn't need to take two pills in one night this time!
 
patra said:
You've got to take it a little easy on first-timers. Turn her on to the experience, not off - it will suck if you know your GF had a bad experience rolling, somehow, because it was too intense or too much to handle, and she doesn't want to give it another go next time you want to roll.

Either give her half a pill to start with, and then another half after she's come up (ie., an hour from dosing) or give her 3/4ths of the pill and then the other 1/4th an hour later. I feel like this will give her some semblance of control, which is important if you feel like the previous "first time" she rolled might not have been the full experience because of the quality of it. She doesn't have a high tolerance at the moment, and even dosing half and a half or 3/4ths and 1/4th later will be far beyond Shulgin's threshold, which is probably accurate for her given her tolerance and experience. She absolutely doesn't need to take two pills in one night this time!
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would 1) half and half or 2) 3/4 and 1/4 be stronger?

like would 1) be a mild roll but last longer and 2) be a little stronger but not as long?
 
I personally don't agree with the "Take 3/4th's, then 1/4th's an hour later" idea.

I say give her one pill. Make sure she drinks it with water, no alcohol! Be sure she stays hydrated. Keep an eye on her, make sure she is feeling fine. You said you've taken these rolls before, yes? If that is the case, you know what to expect.

Bottom line - Give her one full roll. Keep her hydrated. Let her enjoy the experience for what it is. You may be use to taking two but remember she is a female and weighs less than you do, so she will require less to feel the full effect. You can always take more the next time, for now just share a magical experience together on one dose.
 
^ Agreed.


Don't go breaking any pills, just give her the pill... she's basically guaranteed to have a great time, I don't think it's possible to feel bad with all that serotonin flooding through her brain.


100mg isn't a large dose by any means, even for a light weight
 
My suggestion was only based on what I've read recently about Shulgin's dosing advice. I haven't done it that way myself yet, so I'm not sure what the difference would be.

I suppose the bottom line though is that we're talking about the same amount of MDMA in the end - just the issue you seem to be confused on is whether or not to take it all at once or wait. The thing is, I suppose the difference between taking it all at first, or taking 3/4ths and then a 1/4th after a bit will only be max 40mg, which is a small amount and probably wont make a huge difference.

I just realized I probably didn't help you much... *ducks out quietly*
 
patra, you helped very much so. along with everyone else!

thanks for the help, i'll try and report back and tell you guys what happened
 
I've taken too low of a dose... when I tried to re-dose to get my roll started I basically just wasted 100mg of MDMA trying to kick my roll in... that's why I say not to redose. Not to mention it's more neurotoxic as well, the safest way is just to take one full dose and nothing after it.

But, to answer your question, re-dosing won't add any extra intensity, it just makes your roll a little longer.. as well as adding extra side effects and being less effective than the first.

Just take the full pill, the chances of it overwhelming her (in a bad way) are very low



Also, don't just think that because she's a girl she's super sensitive to MDMA.. (unless she has shown she was before). I know girls who could take like 5-6 pills a night and rage harder than most of the rest of us
 
I say take one - split the other in half and if she feels like a redose then give her that half at around ~T+1:00 to T+1:30 :) If she doesn't feel like it then save those two halves for another day :)

Ask her how strong she found 80mg though - if she found that quite strong then I'd go with 3/4 of the first pill and 1/4 to 1/2 as a redose if necessary.
 
^^ this. Just give her a whole pill, bro. Let her have fun, she will be perfectly safe as long as she has someone i.e you. To take care of her.
 
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