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Codeine & CWE Megathread: Version II - [insert witty title]

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Thanks everyone... For some reason I was under the impression PST was a fair bit of work compared to CWE. It certainly sounds like a better approach to my problem. I agree that it should not be glorified on this forum but you have potentially improved my quality of life and for that, I thank you!

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so im doing up a batch today (wednesday) but wont be consuming till friday. whats the best way to store the liquid i will be drinking in 2 days.....plastic coke bottle? glass bottle with lid? normal drinking glass? also should it be refridgerated or room temperature. note it will be left for 2 days.
 
from memory codeine is quite prone to breakdown, especially when it's dissolved in water or even exposed to light and air in it's crystalline form. So codeine stored in water in the open air in the sunlight should lose potency quickly

You wan't to keep it cold (fridge), in a light proof container (wrap with foil) preferably without oxygen (pretty much impossible in water as oxygen is soluble in water), so maybe keep it in the smallest possible vessel i.e. smallest possible air content when the vessel is closed.

plastic vs glass isn't going to matter to much over a few days but air tight is a must. Glass Jam/spaghetti sauce jars that come vacuum sealed are pretty awesome and easy to find.

Maybe adding some vitamin c to the water will help to stabilise it.
 
Lots of folks report cwe solution going funky (ie bacteria) after a day or two.
I wouldn't know, it would never last long in my place before being consumed.
 
dammit......Ok sounds like one for the too hard basket, will drink her up after work today then. thanks for the info :)
 
Dr Phibes said:
Codeine ceiling = the hassle running around finding friendly chemists exceeds the want/need for the codeine
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Hahahha tell me about it, running to every pharmacy you can think of to get the amount you need, its really funny when u walk in and they automatically just grab it off the shelf knowing you came for just that but oh well u gotta do what u gotta do. Kind of miss the days when you could just grab them off the shelves and sometimes they were on special. Thats why my tolerance is so high these days :S

Ive figured out a nice routine to help keep my tolerance levels at bay. My codeine days are usually Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. I generally have 30-60mg of DXM an hour before having the CWE. I was thinking:
Wednesday: 35 pills Friday: 40 pills and then Saturday have: 45pills. What do u guys think about that? Tolerance is really annoying and im getting to a stage where 500mg codeine all up isnt doing overly much anymore except feeling slightly bit more relaxed. I do find that tolerance drops a bit in 3 days. Taking a break isnt an option for me at the moment as im trying to stay away from strong opiates. How do you guys keep your tolerance levels at bay without increasing dosages or taking a break?
 
I've only used chelated magnesium to help with clenching while on amps, you've heard people are using it as potentiator for opiates? Well now.
 
Sup Bluelight!

I have found a new brand of Codeine pills, check them out <snip>

The chemist I go to well lets just say he's not stupid, and really recommended i buy them a couple of times after being assured it wasn't in the lysine formula, I gave in after a few times, and they don't seem to dissolve any easier than the strong pain xtra (25 mins in freezer and still needed a little crushing but not a lot) They seem to filter clearer, and with a lot less water needed, i put all 40 pills in a shotty and used 25mL of water could have used less probably, so that's a bonus. This is the end result of 40 pills, (if it looks a little more than 25mL that would be because i swirl a tiny bit of water in the shotty after (about 5mL) and scrape the sides with the water soaking them (holding the shotty on an angle) really helps you get all of the goodness out of it.

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No difference in price, but the amount of water needed was so little, definitely worth a try if you come across them, could not find the inactive ingredients on the box and no leaflet inside the packet either but looks pretty clear.

Edit: I also went looking for WGFJ in my local supermarket, but could only find the red kind, anyway I juiced one of those gave me 200mL, with some tums, and drank half 45 mins before and the other half 45 mins into the high and I'm preety sure it extended the high, the taste wasn't the best however, where can i get WGFJ?
 
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^ ^ It's likely that white grapefruit juice will inhibit the codeine high, though differing results have been reported. In my experience, when using it to potentiate pst, I found any cdubs in the meantime completely useless. When potentiating opioids other than codeine, from what I've read grapefruit juice is most use if you take it well before using the opioid - the day before. Its effect can last 24 hours, so my recommendation would be to avoid codeine within 24 hrs of drinking any white grapefruit juice.

EDIT -I've removed the photo of the codeine product above. I'm currently discussing this with the other mods, but I don't believe it's in our best interests to be flaunting brands like that. We have the same policy with other quasi legal products like pst - not mentioning brands or sources. Following on from this, although I agree it seems like overkill, the guidelines prevent sources being listed for ANYTHING, even seemingly benign things like grapefruit juice. Anyway - we'll continue discussing what seems like the best plan of attack here, and update everyone shortly :)
 
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From what I remember (lol) doesn't matter if its WGFJ or red, its just that WGFJ contains a stronger concentration of whatever is responsible for the CYP3A4 / P450 inhibition effect. I suppose genetic makeup determines how it affects you, like some ppl are poor metabolizers. I had read just as many reports of people saying before is better than after, and its not exactly something I'm going to go without for more than a day or two so may as well try both :P 600mg usually lasts me an hour of peak feeling, I was more merry and euphoric for a lot longer than usual. Will try WGFJ at the peak next time anyway, see if its better for me. I miss the days 600 mg would be two doses :P

My bad on the pic I was a bit weary but have seen pics of boxes posted before, anyway I can see where your coming from.
 
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indybreaker said:
ive finally succeeded and have the most intense nod . 600 codeine with 120mg dxm 45 min prior and feel fucking fantastic!
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ok so my dumfuckindybreaker thought i had a nod but i had the same amount of dxm on its own another time and now know that it wasnt a codeine high, moreso effects from the dxm . i tried an 800mg codeine batch with 40mg dxm last week and STILL NOTHING! im so ready to give up on this shit
 
the effects would have synergised, i'd say you did it right - i would have expected a little trippiness from that much as well. perhaps the dxm isn't worth your hassle along with the codeine.
 
i don't think he's doing anything wrong with the tek. just doesn't seem to get results. it's a possibility they're a poor metaboliser.

fuck these tabsules suck ass:|
 
ok, so ive fucked off the panafene plus aswell as all iburofen branded products. managed to pick up some of the mydol ones and the generic panadeine extras both have 40 in them. im going to do up one today so keep an eye out in a few hours and we'll see if it really just comes down to me being a poor metaboliser. Note im doing a 390mg batch
 
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Make sure you're using enough water. Don't be scared of it. I use 100-200mL per 30 x 200mg/12.8mg ibuprofen/codeine tablets. Hope it works for you this time bro. :)

Ash. <3
 
soooooooo many cooks in the kitchen when it comes to CWE! ahaha. i stopped buying mens health for that exact reason. 1 issue they would say eat grapes they are good for you. next issue they would say dont eat grapes there bad etc etc.......anywyay ive done brennos methos this time with the 40 pack boxes (only did 360mg) and have a slight heavyness in the head. can one redose codeine? ive switched to the para brands ash as the panafenes were waaaaaaaay to sludgy. i used 20mL of water this time for 24 tables and was great, came out crystal clear aswell.
 
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