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Mdma and ecstasy binge

herring14

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Hi,

Last sunday (19th august) i went to ibiza on a lads holiday. Over the course of the week i consumed approximately 3g of mdma and 10 ecstasy pills.

As you can imagine, the comedown from this is pretty brutal. The shocks/zaps have stopped but my brain remains foggy and cant seem to keep up with my body. Can anybody offer any advice to get over this? My mood seems good, i dont think im having any anxiety or other issues but i am back to work on monday and i am worried that im going to struggle.

I have been taking 5htp and lots of vitamins and minerals but im no better and its been 6 days since i last touched any of the drugs.

How long can i expect this to last and should i consult my dr or even the hospital?

Thanks
 
MDMA and Ecstasy are the same thing (well, they're supposed to be).

I'm going to move this over to the appropriate focus forum.

BDD --> Ecstasy Discussion
 
i think youve got your head screwed on with the vitamins etc. just give it time and you will be back to normal in a short while

How longs a short while? On the internet I've read that some people take weeks Kremlin even months before they feel normal.

Is there anything else I can do to speed up the process?
 
just lay off anything intoxicating. i went on a bit of a mad one at a festival a few years ago with regards to mdma. ive gotta be honest it was probably a solid 3 weeks before i felt back to my old self. no idea how much i took but there was something every day.
 
3g of molly and ten pills is an insane amount not to mention pretty damn reckless. Time is ur only friend here and lots of it.
 
Focus on not taking more than the taking. Eat healthfully, exercise routinely, and lay off of all drugs. Time is the solution. Lay off the weed, forget about mdma for a while. The brain heals slowly, patience is key. The zaps should be gone in a few weeks maximum. Other cognitive difficulties could take a bit longer. You will be ok.
 
You will most likely recover as brain fogginess is the only symptom you describe and your brain zaps have subsided. If this is indeed your only symptom I would predict 3 weeks at the most until you feel normal again.
 
How longs a short while? On the internet I've read that some people take weeks Kremlin even months before they feel normal.

Is there anything else I can do to speed up the process?
You abused it, and since everyone is different, everyone recovers differently.

The best thing you can do OP, is just try to forget about it. Exercise and eating healthy will help, but its really time that will tell.
 
Surprised you got any effect after the first 2 grams!

You might wanna look into dosing correctly if you wanna have any sort of relationship with ecstasy in the future.

Thanks to reckless dosing I can never enjoy MDMA ever again. (My body rejects it).
Go careful.
 
Do people these days honestly think Ecstasy, Molly, and MDMA are three different things?

Sorry "Thaton" i dont know what you mean here? We have to assume they are all the same. Unless OP sais otherwise.

Last sunday (19th august) i went to ibiza on a lads holiday. Over the course of the week i consumed approximately 3g of mdma and 10 ecstasy pills.

As all members confirm this dose is crazy. However, we dont judge people here we just help them with what ever the problem is. I can sympathise with how this mistake has been made in Ibiza.

It breaks the two most fundamental rules. Dose and Consequtive Days.

Just like Cornishman - Myself and MDMA are no more this is because of this exact form of abuse. Weekend raves and festivals are the worst temptation for this.

Ibiza I am sure offers a similiar temptation. Get fucked on the first night have a blast. Loads of drugs available so just keep dosing until you get equally as fucked on all the other nights. I can imagine there are a zillion cases like this from ibiza so you are not alone.

The shocks/zaps have stopped but my brain remains foggy and cant seem to keep up with my body. Can anybody offer any advice to get over this? My mood seems good, i dont think im having any anxiety or other issues but i am back to work on monday and i am worried that im going to struggle.

It does not sound to me like a long term comedown. I think you have luckily avoided this torture. If I think back to my abuse sessions ie 4 day festival fucked up on pills every night I remember the comedown being brutal just as you describe. It just took slightly longer than the normal 4 days to clear maybe 6-10 days.

The fuzzy brain may take a little longer. 5HTP for me I always found never a great success but my biggest comedown cure was EXERCISE and Oils such as Krill Oil and Omega 3. I think we actually all react a bit different to the supps. In a way you have to experiment a little for yourself.

The best advice I can give about the supps is research it a little on bluelight there are loads of posts with different suggestions. the exercise I think is the most fundamental with a good balanced diet whilst you recover.

If you can avoid cigarettes, alcohol, sugar, caffeine. I realise this might be a little unrealistic for some but you get the idea. just give your body every chance possible to recover and not more drug induced stimulation thats the key.

How long can i expect this to last and should i consult my dr or even the hospital?

I estimate for you another 4-6 days. Please report back to this post and let us know how you are getting on. This is only an estimation based on my own experience and your described symptoms. No anxiety is a big PLUS.

I would never advise someone not to consult a doctor or hospital. There is never harm in consulting a dr regardless of your condition.

The only thing I will say is my experience of doctors with MDMA related conditions has been they rarely understand anything about it. There is a danger they will prescribe you antidepressants such as SSRIs or possibley benzos such as dimazapam. I would not advise you to take either of these as they will hinder your recovery.

If the symptoms become more long term then is the time to consider those type of medications. I see it a lot in UK people visit their GP with drug related issues and their solution is always throw ad's and benzos at them in hope the problem goes away. I speak from bitter experience.


Final words that are really important.

Please take a break now from MDMA for at least 3 months ideally 6 months.

Please dont make this mistake again. MDMA is Neurotoxic I am 100% convinced. Each time you do a session like this you can likely cause an element of un repairable brain damage. How much and exactly how is debatable but regardless of this it has the potential to be long term harmful.

Dont take E on consequitive days. If you can limit a single dose session to 150mG.

A week in Ibiza is a tricky one. I guess E up on day 1 light dose, relax, sun, sea drink,candy flip day 2,3,4,5,6 day 7 out with a bang 150mG. Ideal HR is breaks of 3 months between sessions but I think this might be unrealistic in the context of Ibiza.

When you think about it it requires an element of planning to not fuck yourself up next year. but.. as you now know this planning could make for a happier after math.

Predosing for these long sessions is very important. Much of the E experience can be enhanced using education and suppliments without heavy dose. Here is a starting place bluelight has loads more info about this.

http://www.rollinballzcrew.com/preload.shtml

I hope this info helps.

Good luck let us know how you get on.
 
Thank you so much for the detailed response. I woke up feeling much better this morning although the brain fog has since returned.

I'll definitely be laying off the drug for a while; at least 3 months and your advice will be kept in mind for future. I'll be sure to report back in the coming days with my progress!
 
I woke up feeling much better this morning although the brain fog has since returned.

Just while I think about it have a look into the following that might help you:

Piracetam
Lithium
Neurozan: (from Holland & Barrett in UK)
containing 20mg 5HTP, vit b1, b2 , b6, b12, d3, folic acid, zinc, iron, phosphatidylserine + others
all designed to help contribute to normal brain function and performance.


Do a little research as there are certain things you can take with the lithium & piracetam. From memory I think for piracetam its coline. For the lihium read posts from "First Bad Comedown"

All of these will likely help the brain fog.
 
these days E, molly, and mdma are NOT the same thing. pressed pills could be anything, molly is usually methylone....and mdma is what the former two SHOULD be.
 
these days E, molly, and mdma are NOT the same thing.

In terms of definition we have to assume they are the same.

How you choose to use and understand these terms is your own personal choice and interpretation.

The point when we are reading a request from an OP is that we all understand a 'name' to be something specific. It could be pink milkshake it doesnt really matter as long as we understand a particular word to mean a particular drug.

In the context of this post whats in the pills is not really relevant. The symptoms described are classic to MD** related comedown and as a result the relevant advice is given.

pressed pills could be anything,

They sure can. Availability of pill presses from the likes of Ebay UK via China has made it possible for any unscrupulous individual to order Rcs, distill cough medicines etc and press their own pills. An investment of $1000 or so and you are in the Bunk Pill Business.

America for example has been riddled with this problem.

Hence why test kits now are essential if you value your own sanity.

The current issue for users is trying to interpret bunk pills dosed with a 10mG dose of MDMA to defeat the tests.

This presents more of a problem. At this point the likes of Pillreports become invaluable.

molly is usually methylone....

A slang term that could have various meanings depending on location, circle of friends etc.

The term originally came as an abreviation of MDMA so this statement based on slang terminology is very debatable.

and mdma is what the former two SHOULD be.

Yes agree with you Definition vs Reality are two different worlds.

If you want to take recreational drugs in this current world if you arent educated you are at great risk. I speak from bitter experience.

a BZP / MDMA coctail zapped me.
 
Thanks Guys.

Unfortunately i have just read the latest posts and therefore most local shops in the UK are shut now.

I have a flight to Germany at 7am so unless they sell these things at Boots Pharmacy in the airport, i will likely have to wait or buy them abroad.

This morning i had a football match, which qas quite surreal. I managed to play ok and actually felt quite well after it. Since then though my head has become very foggy again, if not more so than before. Creating a relatively simple power point presentation is taking me hours as i am struggling to concentrate for more than a few minutes at a time. Strangely, i am also struggling with my vocabulary which is very unlike me.

I may go for a short run this evening as exercise seems to help even if only briefly. I am still taking 5htp daily as well as vitamins and minerals, but i cant say that i've felt a huge benefit so far. It has now been over a week since i last took anything, should i be recovering by now?
 
Hello Herring

Cheers for the update.

This morning i had a football match, which was quite surreal.

Since then though my head has become very foggy again, if not more so than before.

Creating a relatively simple power point presentation is taking me hours as i am struggling to concentrate for more than a few minutes at a time.

Strangely, i am also struggling with my vocabulary which is very unlike me.

It has now been over a week since i last took anything, should i be recovering by now?


The surreal football might be mild HPPD very common symptom

Other symptoms - brain fog worse, concentration poor, vocab struggling with.

How are you with memory? Do you have lowered voice? Any anxiety or panic appearing?

Mmm this sounds like it might last a bit longer.

Once it becomes long term comedown the time taken for recovery is a lot more difficult to estimate. Anything now from 1-6 months.

Important for you to know it WILL GO but this might take some more time.


Now vital that what ever happens DO NOT take any more drugs of any sort particularly MD** type drugs. Try and avoid drink, caffeine, alcohol.

To speed up this process you have to give your body every possible chance of natural recovery. The supps recommended may well help.

If you can tollerate it I advise you to stay away from meds and also benzos. A GP will unlikely understand this condition. My experience of antidepressants is that it makes things worse and can lengthen the recovery time. A GP will not agree with this opinion.

For a more detailed explaination of what you are going through I would recommend a search for the user "First Bad Comedown" this chap writes some very informative and interesting stuff. Highly recommended.

I also think you might want to review any further MDMA for at least a year+ now.

I found once I got these symptoms any further MDMA use just made things worse. Your body kind of gets allergic to it.

Choosing to take more MDMA for the future after your recovery is now your choice you will have to revert to your own risk analysis. Benefits vs negatives. Speaking from personal experience totally stopping might be a good plan. It might be your time.

On a final note many users report "forgetting about it" is also equally as important. Try not to dwell on things too much. Yes made a mistake, live life, look after yourself, move on, I will recover just need some time.

Feel free to PM me if you want to chat on skype and I can reassure you in any way. I have got through one long comedown lasting 6 months. I am currently in another lasting now 12 months and ongoing..

Sorry I cant be more specific at this point.

Sounds like with the German trip, exercise etc you are heading in this right direction.

Check out those supps when you can. For me I found the 5HTP not so useful. FBCs posts might explain why.

Good luck mate.
 
Thanks for you support.

My memory is not too bad, I've actually found that I am organising things much better through the fear of forgetting things in this foggy state.

Still no signs of depression or anxiety which is good. General fogginess hasn't improved at all but Im learning to live with it.

Back at work this week and I feel a bit better but most of that i feel is due to the fact Im constantly busy and not thinking about it.

I'll definitely stay off the drugs for some time. Next year I certainly will be more sensible if taking anything.
 
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