coelophysis
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^ I'm sure we've all learned to not expect anything less from you by now.
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"New Internet drug kills 14 swedes" (5-IT)
- Thread starter amanitadine
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Xamkou
Bluelighter
Mephedrone is a "recent" RC. And it's found itself in the top 3 of the most consumed illicit substances in the UK. Great stuff.
As for the 14 down to 3, doesn't surprise me.
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And many of you need to grow up and stop ganging up on the king of beans. the amount of members who abuse the fuck out of meth and heroin everyday and post about it and no-one makes snide, sarcastic comments. Not once has he said go and mix a shit load of other substances with 5-IT, he has merely posted his own experiences. Go and spend an hour looking through trip reports or 'Drug Culture'. And I would wager that most of you have done stupid overdoses/combos in the past. The guy clearly needs to be told to calm down in a supportive manner, not ridiculed. Get off your fucking high horse.
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amanitadine
Bluelighter
It is the content of his posts and his "logic" that is ridiculed, not his use of drugs. This is a drug users board after all.
Your logic is questionable as well. Being in the "top 3 illicit substances used in the UK" does not a great substance make. How does that work? Does that make McDonalds great food?
And as I'm reading it, going through the toxicology and coroners reports and EMCCDA alerts, the deaths due to 5-IT have been conclusively determined to be solely such in three cases, and the rest are still under investigation due to mixed intoxication. There are now mixed reports from other countries as well. This still warrants caution in my esteem, as this is also a harm reduction board. Even if 5-IT was only shown to be the cause of death in one case caution would still be advised. Or even zero deaths, as the scores of horrific sounding overdoses on flashback.org attest to. A very slow come up on an untested serotonergic stimulant amongst the drug naive masses is a disaster in the making. Am I sayin 5-IT is horrible and kills everyone? Obviously not. But users should still be aware and cautious, as they should with EVERY drug. Carry on. ..
Your logic is questionable as well. Being in the "top 3 illicit substances used in the UK" does not a great substance make. How does that work? Does that make McDonalds great food?
And as I'm reading it, going through the toxicology and coroners reports and EMCCDA alerts, the deaths due to 5-IT have been conclusively determined to be solely such in three cases, and the rest are still under investigation due to mixed intoxication. There are now mixed reports from other countries as well. This still warrants caution in my esteem, as this is also a harm reduction board. Even if 5-IT was only shown to be the cause of death in one case caution would still be advised. Or even zero deaths, as the scores of horrific sounding overdoses on flashback.org attest to. A very slow come up on an untested serotonergic stimulant amongst the drug naive masses is a disaster in the making. Am I sayin 5-IT is horrible and kills everyone? Obviously not. But users should still be aware and cautious, as they should with EVERY drug. Carry on. ..
ro4eva
Bluelighter
I actually find his posts interesting.
Also, he's a trooper. Poor guy has a messed up liver (and heart?) and he's still chuggin' along. And he found a way to beat the casinos!
The King of Beans
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lol thanks guys. It's all good though if I get ridiculed. I expect to...and I'm used to it now. I just like to share information with people since I am experienced personally with most of this stuff, and at the same time, have a good time. Sometimes I get frustrated if people can't see my points, but that's really my own fault cuz my english sucks. When I explain things, often people take it literally, and to me words can mean more than one thing. It's like the english language is so flawed. You can't speak spirtually or outside the box like I do, cuz people won't know wtf you're talkin about, and you'll just be misunderstood all the time.
I think the language we etards speak should actually be called "The XTC Language" So if someone asks what language you speak, just tell em "xtc" lol...people like me sound retarded to "normal" people, people who haven't fried their brains yet. But really there is more activity going on up there than what "normal" people think. So really a normal person could be considered retarded from this point of view. I see things from all angles though, luckily MDMA and other drugs like acid/shrooms etc gave me that ability. So I always question everything, no matter how retarded a normal person may think the question is, there is no such thing as a bad question. I believe anyone who has taken MDMA over the top long term could be classified as a etarded genius, anyone who's fried, then regenerated their brains with MDMA. It's like topping a pot plant as I said in another thread. Perfect comparison here. What doesn't kill you makes you stronger. I don't know if I'd call 2 heads better than one on a pot plant, but that's all personal preference. One head thicker, 2 heads more bushy, more buds. I'd take 2 I guess. Same with your brain. You fry it on MDMA, it will regenerate, and it will regenerate at what I believe was 4x faster or 4x as much as the normal rate. But the receptors are more squiggley and not as "Thick" so you won't experience the true bliss of life anymore if you go too far(Unless you're on some type of substance), but you will have so many more of them up there....and you will be definitely an overthinker. lol at least that's what happened with me, and I did read this in some study which verified true with the way my brain works/feels now.
Anyone heard about this? In regards to regeneration of the brain over the long term? I know some studies were pretty recent, but I really haven't researched this since. Probably will though again as it's very interesting. Especially if you've experienced it. Life changing for sure. All you can do is try to make the best of it. Honestly though, I think a brain is better off, to never do MDMA more than a few times. But on the flip side, I think a brain is better off doing MDMA a few times...rather than never. I would recommend MDMA to my mom, grandmother, brothers, sisters, friends, enemies, heck even the lord Jesus Christ himself. I don't think he would disagree with the effects. They are pretty godly..lol. God must of inspired the chemist who came up with MDMA in the first place.
EDIT: Don't look for contradictions, because true understanding comes from being able to see the truth, even in contradictions through our limited language. So in other words, when I talk about the Lord Jesus, it doesn't mean I believe in the bible. The bible was not written by Jesus as far as we know. The bible encourages ignorance, and I know anything which is out for our "Good" would never do that. Ignorance is not bliss. Ignorance is laziness. So if Jesus is good, then he would tell you to never believe the bible if he could give you advice on that...because the bible clearly states to be ignorant. If a guy named "Jesus Christ" happens to tell you to believe the bible, then call him a "Man" and tell him to shut the fuck up. Ignorance=harm. Ignorance=Evil. So, just do your own thinking before you mindlessly follow what some people tell you to do.
EDIT #2- If you want to go even deeper into karma and stuff, well I think the bible was written by man, in plan of god, to test us. And remember god doesn't judge us or test us, so this will be confusing for you to try and figure out if you aren't connected to the truth it will appear just a contradiction to you. I'll try to explain the best I can- The god the bible speaks of is a very bad "being" If you compare what he has done to what we could do, he would be considered worthy of the utmost torture and death penalty situations which we impose on "Criminals" (Wrong word there, but the right one for you to understand what I'm trying to communicate) But yes, god would be far worse than any criminal. We can easily find reasons why criminals do what they do, and why they act the way they act. They commit no more "Crimes" than the people are who judging them and throwing them into prison. But we cannot come to the conclusion on anything god asks of us. It's plain as day people- If you have a conscience, then you will know the bible is actually backwards. It should of been easy for us to figure out. A god who admits to doing more crime than we could even hope to dream of, and we still want to follow him?! We are that weak that we have to submit in fear?? We cannot just think for ourselves and know that if there is an evil god, he would be lying through his teeth anyways? He promises you heaven, but REALLY if you believe in the bible you are going to hell. Why? Because you chose to let fear(Satan, Devil, ignorance) take over and keep you from the REAL god(Truth, divine, inner light) so this was your own fault for mindless following what some idiot UNPERFECT men wrote in a book(to say man is perfect is to deny god himself)
And you chose to follow the EVIL god too, just for a chance at heaven for yourself?!),if you want to be in "heaven". How can you even think you could be in peace, with a guy who just slaughtered your mother and sent her to hell? Notice now that you have to have no mind (Truth is mind) When you use your brain looking outwards, you shut down your mind and turn into a zombie basically. This is our message from god that there is a god and humans are nowhere near the top level of existence. And you'll be in this lower hell of evil/ignorance (no such thing as intelligent evil, which I also proved the other night. We are the only thing creating evil...and we are FAR from intelligent. Creating evil is the opposite of intelligent if you want me to put it bluntly...it's ignorant) We will all be in hell(asleep) until we make the choice to wake up. You cannot be in heaven until you wake up. Ignorance is not bliss. Knowledge is bliss. If ignorance was bliss, then why would they have the hall of wisdom in heaven? Just look for the truth, ask god to lead you to it, and I guarantee you'll find it if you keep an open mind. Remember, god is much more powerful than our EGO so we have to let that go sometimes, or we remain narcissistic and that keeps you ignorant as well.
Funny I was reading what I wrote above, about how being in hell is like being asleep. But the bible says "No rest for the wicked" or some shit like that. Remember, we've been lied to, so reverse everything you think you know now and you'll have much more truth than you do now. In true hell, you'd never get the chance to be awake. Exact opposite really of what these people wrote in the bible. And who the heck would want to "Rest" for eternity anyway? Or at all for that matter? Humans need to rest to heal their bodies. Spirits may need to be healed too, but when you are in heaven, you are healed and perfect, one with god...so there will be absolutely no need for rest. Unless of course you like being lazy. But if you did I doubt you would of made it to heaven to begin with. I know I wish to be awake and alive. So if you never get rest in hell, then that is where I want to go. Because Hell will really be Heaven.
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Damn @ The King of Beans!! You sound exactly like a friend of mine that ate way, way, way too much trip in his time. After years and years of scarfing down vial after vial, he finally got so depersonalized or detached, and believed that he had some divine understanding of the universe that NO one else was blessed enough to have! lol! Your rants are so eerily similar!! Please KOB, please grace my simple mind with your superior understanding of God and existence!! 8(
Cyanoide
Bluelighter
I read the thread on flashback.org. Not all deaths have been solely due to 5-IT. There is e.g. one user who mentions his good friend died of a mixture of 5-IT, Imovane (Zopiclone), Methylphenidate and beer (strong beer, not your average pint). But there are also several reports of users ending up in coma, having limbs amputated etc.
I don't know why but for some strange reason Sweden usually have abnormally many deaths and people hospitalized due to new RC's. I've never thought the Swedish culture of getting wasted is as bad as here (Finland), so it's hard to say what's the reason behind it.
