"New Internet drug kills 14 swedes" (5-IT)

<<<<<<<<<Well weed is a downer, an upper and a mild hallucinogen all combined into one drug. So it has some properties of each. But yes I do know what you mean by the panic attacks. I think there is some kind of reaction that goes on between heavy MDMA use and smoking weed. Because me and several friends had to literally stop smoking pot, due to this extreme tightness in the heart area. I was told it was anxiety, but it felt like I was dying or having a heart attack when I'd smoke, so I was basically forced to quit because I couldn't handle that. And I was a major pothead too back then so I figure it had to be a connection with the overdose we had which contributed to the weed causing anxiety attacks.

As for too much water when you're rolling...you're correct about that. Some people go craaazy when they roll and drink an insane amount. I've personally drank 1 gallon in less than 1 hour to pass a drug test before, and on another occasion I drank like 10 bottles of water in like 30 mins (Was running short on time..lol) and that cleaned me out big time. So I'm not sure what the overdose level is, but you would indeed have to be insane to OD on water. Not too common, but my recommendation would be 1 glass of water per hour, or just take small sips throughout the night. That's what I do. I have no problem pissing on MDMA, like some people do(which could be dangerous if you drink water too quickly). That is probably due to my tolerence from using it so much over the years...or the shit is just weaker. I remember in the 90's, I would go all night rolling without being able to piss... And I always drink alcohol too, which dehydrates you even more.

As for milk thistle...yes it's a great supplement. I've taken it before. You can survive much longer with cirrhosis if you take it. But it's not the best cure, and it won't cure the cirrhosis, it will just improve quality of life and extend it. In order to completely get rid of the cirrhosis, it can take up to 20 years or more depending on how advanced it is. Or as little as 2 days. It's just your body's way of "keeping itself alive at all costs" by putting a shiny film over the organs to keep you hydrated. This is why water is the simple (And only) cure for cirrhosis. Also some good foods to anyone suffering from this disease would be radishes(eat the stems too and the leaves if possible), white radishes, dandilion greens, turmeric(spice)...these are just a few of things that can treat cirrhosis in combination with water and a healthy lifestyle/diet. If you have gotten alcohol induced cirrhosis, you must stop drinking the alcohol, or it won't go away. So basically, eliminate the cause, and virtually anything will heal on it's own. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<



You are spot on my friend I cannot believe so many bl`s believe this crap.

5 IT is execellent and reasonably safe if used sensibly.

I`d stake my life on it :D

I`ve used it over 100 times in doses ranging from 100-175mg gelcapped and so have all my friends and not one of us has ANYTHING negative to say about it.
 
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So much shit being spouted in here, I thought I was reading a ED thread. Shills or just plain stupid people.
 
<<<<<<<<<Well weed is a downer, an upper and a mild hallucinogen all combined into one drug. So it has some properties of each. But yes I do know what you mean by the panic attacks. I think there is some kind of reaction that goes on between heavy MDMA use and smoking weed. Because me and several friends had to literally stop smoking pot, due to this extreme tightness in the heart area. I was told it was anxiety, but it felt like I was dying or having a heart attack when I'd smoke, so I was basically forced to quit because I couldn't handle that. And I was a major pothead too back then so I figure it had to be a connection with the overdose we had which contributed to the weed causing anxiety attacks.

As for too much water when you're rolling...you're correct about that. Some people go craaazy when they roll and drink an insane amount. I've personally drank 1 gallon in less than 1 hour to pass a drug test before, and on another occasion I drank like 10 bottles of water in like 30 mins (Was running short on time..lol) and that cleaned me out big time. So I'm not sure what the overdose level is, but you would indeed have to be insane to OD on water. Not too common, but my recommendation would be 1 glass of water per hour, or just take small sips throughout the night. That's what I do. I have no problem pissing on MDMA, like some people do(which could be dangerous if you drink water too quickly). That is probably due to my tolerence from using it so much over the years...or the shit is just weaker. I remember in the 90's, I would go all night rolling without being able to piss... And I always drink alcohol too, which dehydrates you even more.

As for milk thistle...yes it's a great supplement. I've taken it before. You can survive much longer with cirrhosis if you take it. But it's not the best cure, and it won't cure the cirrhosis, it will just improve quality of life and extend it. In order to completely get rid of the cirrhosis, it can take up to 20 years or more depending on how advanced it is. Or as little as 2 days. It's just your body's way of "keeping itself alive at all costs" by putting a shiny film over the organs to keep you hydrated. This is why water is the simple (And only) cure for cirrhosis. Also some good foods to anyone suffering from this disease would be radishes(eat the stems too and the leaves if possible), white radishes, dandilion greens, turmeric(spice)...these are just a few of things that can treat cirrhosis in combination with water and a healthy lifestyle/diet. If you have gotten alcohol induced cirrhosis, you must stop drinking the alcohol, or it won't go away. So basically, eliminate the cause, and virtually anything will heal on it's own. <<<<<<<<<<<<<<



You are spot on my friend I cannot believe so many bl`s believe this crap.

5 IT is execellent and reasonably safe if used sensibly.

I`d stake my life on it :D

I`ve used it over 100 times in doses ranging from 100-175mg gelcapped and so have all my friends and not one of us has ANYTHING negative to say about it.

Thanks for that...have you noticed any tolerance issue yet? And how often do you dose? I plan to cut back after I finish my first gram. I've had it probably almost 3 weeks or longer, and still have probably 250 mg left. So while I was dosing fairly often, far more than sensible users would, I still have managed to make just 1 gram last about a month. And I've managed to roll 3 to 4 times per week (not just on the 5-IT but with combos and stuff as well) but I did start to notice a tolerance to the 5-IT. It seems now the stuff kicks in quicker for me, but also wears off quicker and is not as strong. I took a larger dose last time, probably 125 mg and I still felt it really good. I normally space out the dose at least 2 to 3 days apart, although I have dosed 5-IT on consecutive days. Definitely does NOT build a tolerance as fast as MDMA but was just curious to know if you have built one up yet, over all those doses.

So much shit being spouted in here, I thought I was reading a ED thread. Shills or just plain stupid people.

That's another thing I forgot to mention about 5-IT! There are no issues at all with ED, (At least not for me) you can get hard as a rock, stay that way all night and it's just excellent for sex. Makes you hornier than a wild dog. It's better than MDMA for sex...and that is really saying something.


That sense pic is hilarious! lol
 
And I've managed to roll 3 to 4 times per week (not just on the 5-IT but with combos and stuff as well) but I did start to notice a tolerance to the 5-IT.

That takes me back to when I used to roll myself on consecutive nights, many times work nights. I was surprised that I was able to roll, get no sleep and be able to function (for the most part) for 8 hours at my then job. It was that morning after glow that kept me going (at least that's how I felt - still had that loved up feeling).

Nowadays though, no fucking way I'd be able to handle it. I've tried, but around lunch every time - boom, it hits me... zzzzzz.

I dunno where I was going with this. Brain damage.
 
That takes me back to when I used to roll myself on consecutive nights, many times work nights. I was surprised that I was able to roll, get no sleep and be able to function (for the most part) for 8 hours at my then job. It was that morning after glow that kept me going (at least that's how I felt - still had that loved up feeling).

Nowadays though, no fucking way I'd be able to handle it. I've tried, but around lunch every time - boom, it hits me... zzzzzz.

I dunno where I was going with this. Brain damage.

I'm the same way. My body is so drained that I would not be able to work 8 hours at most jobs. So I guess I'm like you, if you over do it, it will mess with you in areas which others may consider valuable. Such as not being able to work a regular 9 to 5 job. No way will abusing MDMA allow that. For one, it's just far too lame when you don't have the serotonin to handle it. And for two, it's just wrong. Also Physically these drugs take a toll on your body after a while too, so you will be unable to even do these types of jobs. I was disabled for years thanks to MDMA. (well no, more likely thanks to me and the idiot ogres I knew who abused the hell out of things)

But I actually kinda like how I'm not "Able" to be a slave...I feel people should work for themselves, and not other people. If you put your mind to it, you can do anything. I did the impossible... I found a nice profitable way to beat the casinos! Pays way more than any 9 to 5 slavery job could...and you don't have some idiot telling you what to do every 5 minutes. lol you can be your own boss, and it pays way more...in every department. Is much more rewarding mentally as well.
 
I found a nice profitable way to beat the casinos!

Are you that old lady at the slot machines?? I thougt I saw you yesterday, putting some weird powder in your complementary beverage.
Anyway, been trying to crack the code of these machines for ages. You godda let me in on your big secret!!
 
Are you that old lady at the slot machines?? I thougt I saw you yesterday, putting some weird powder in your complementary beverage.
Anyway, been trying to crack the code of these machines for ages. You godda let me in on your big secret!!

Wasn't talking about slot machines, they are for suckers. Although, being the professional I am, I have also figured out a way to beat the slot machines. Yes you heard right. But there is one catch- It takes lots of discipline...so much that most people won't be able to do this. Slots are super, super addictive once you start winning. More so than any drug I've ever done. So if you think you have what it takes, you can PM me. I don't want to give the info away here for everyone to see.
 
making all the well studied drugs illegal causes a market for legal alternatives which havent been studied nearly as well. And this is what happens
 
making all the well studied drugs illegal causes a market for legal alternatives which havent been studied nearly as well. And this is what happens

LMAO I thought you were talking about wackos like me. MDMA is not much different than most of the stim/cathinone RC's out right now
 
Hahahahahahaha. Yeah right.

Did all the totally fucked up shit that is happening now used to happen when MDMA was more freely available?
 
There is a deeper cause of all the "fucked up shit" Nothing is as what it seems. MDMA is not dangerous, but I seriously doubt 5-IT is either. Drugs are not good for you long term, but they do help to mask some symptoms and live a more quality life. Also some drugs do actually cure, or help to cure certain things. For example, 5-IT could cure your addiction to smoking. But you do still have to put your mind to it, in order to stay quit in the long term. But it does help you get the initial process started automatically.

As for illegal drugs VS legal drugs - Illegal drugs have always been safer, that is a proven fact, so maybe you have a point. RC's are probably more dangerous on average. But to me, feels mainly like the same thing as MDMA or less harsh on your body for the most part. Also it seems they are easier to abuse and certainly more addictive. Hopefully you can't get any brain damage from doing combos of random shit.


EDIT: And also let me say that RC's are not in the same league as "Prescription" and OTC drugs, which are actually programmed and created to kill you or make you sick. RC's are most likely far safer than most prescription drugs they give in the US. And RC's will most likely be illegal drugs or at least considered illegal.
 
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In the 5-IT thread someone said the 14 deaths are down to 3. Anyone has any comments on this? Is this true?
 
They commented already, saying only 3 deaths confirmed as of right now. Either way I guess the people thought that they were taking 6-apb. But to take a high enough dose of 5-IT to actually kill you, would still seem like an insane dose for even the APB's.....no?
 
I think MDMA can be very dangerous under the right circumstances (taking it while on an MAOI, drinking too much water while on it, etc.). Like all other drugs, it should be respected. It may not be the most dangerous one out there, but it'll still a potent psychedelic stimulant.

In other news, it has come to my attention that there is an all female Russian punk-rock band called Pussy Riot. It's truly stupefying what you can learn for free by reading the front page of Wikipedia.
 
Buying RCs used to be fun but now they are all just shit. I'll stick with tried and tested illegals thankyou.

I agree I never used any RCs but I have friends who've used 2C-I, JWH, etc. said how those were good but the newer RCs are not like them. I'll just stick to herb at rare times. I would take mushrooms again, and a high dose of actual LSD.
 
You should not say things like this.
It is wrong, and dangerous, because someone might read what you have written and actually believe it.
MDMA is clearly dangerous, and if the 3 deaths are attributable to 5-IT, then it is dangerous as well.

LOL! Someone believe what I say?! Yeah right...lmao. But "Safe" can mean whatever the fuck you want it to mean. If you're definition of "Safe" means no risk of losing life, then I'm sorry but that doesn't exist here on planet earth. Just breathing, and typing your post that you did is a risk of dying (instant death, heart attack, etc, etc)

I guess you think broccoli is dangerous, since you can choke on it. With your logic, people would be unhealthy...because they would avoid food altogether. You must take risks in order to be alive here in this world. This is what we came here for.

But just to be clear again, to me, safe means "Extremely low risk of death" and I made that clear already in previous post, what my definition was, if you would of read my posts. And if you know anything about MDMA, you will know that the risk of death is extremely low. MDMA is one of the safest drugs on the planet. I never once said taking a combo of MDMA was safe. If people are dumb enough to do that without research, then that is not my fault what so ever. Ignorance is no excuse to blame people like me who actually speak the truth...

ps- sorry if I sound moody...lol that's what you would expect though from someone low on serotonin..lol
 
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