Post your pic vs. Testicular atrophy!!!

Hey I'm a 5'8", 140lb poor university student. I think I'm in pretty good shape because I'm by far the smallest 'big guy' at my gym in university, though to be honest I think most of the guys in there are pussies, especially considering some of the specs posted here.

Now, I've got a serious problem gaining weight. I am lucky to be 140. I have 2 medical conditions, and one prescription drug (Adderall XR) that are damaging to weight gain. I don't look down upon gear (it is just a lifestyle choice, like rec. drugs or music), but I know it's probably never going to be for me. because I am dangerously mentally ill (and I'm open about it, so I just ask you accept it as fact instead of hate) and have psychotic rages, where I am a danger to myself and others. I'm scared of roid rages. I'm am actually beginning the process of trying to reduce my natural test (it's high, everyone's quite sure) to see if it'll maybe make me less violent.

But I still want to make gains at the gym. I'm primarily looking for strength, but size a bit too: I want a heavy-ish fighter's build. That scares people and they run away instead fighting me when I'm gone. And if they are dumb enough to stay, to ensure I don't die. Also, I'm a bit of an addict, and my gf doesn't mind either :)

I am Asian and normally have had (especially for an Asian) a fairly mesomorphic build. Yeah I know, really messed up Asian, how common is that lol.

Is there any possible way to be able to pack on some more (would love 165) or am I just circumstancially fucked? I already smoke pot for it. Also, as weight pleateaus my strength is starting to plateau, too. Time to cycle my workout. Would love any advice on this as well
 
Father Apoklyps said:
Hey I'm a 5'8", 140lb poor university student. I think I'm in pretty good shape because I'm by far the smallest 'big guy' at my gym in university, though to be honest I think most of the guys in there are pussies, especially considering some of the specs posted here.

Now, I've got a serious problem gaining weight. I am lucky to be 140. I have 2 medical conditions, and one prescription drug (Adderall XR) that are damaging to weight gain. I don't look down upon gear (it is just a lifestyle choice, like rec. drugs or music), but I know it's probably never going to be for me. because I am dangerously mentally ill (and I'm open about it, so I just ask you accept it as fact instead of hate) and have psychotic rages, where I am a danger to myself and others. I'm scared of roid rages. I'm am actually beginning the process of trying to reduce my natural test (it's high, everyone's quite sure) to see if it'll maybe make me less violent.

But I still want to make gains at the gym. I'm primarily looking for strength, but size a bit too: I want a heavy-ish fighter's build. That scares people and they run away instead fighting me when I'm gone. And if they are dumb enough to stay, to ensure I don't die. Also, I'm a bit of an addict, and my gf doesn't mind either :)

I am Asian and normally have had (especially for an Asian) a fairly mesomorphic build. Yeah I know, really messed up Asian, how common is that lol.

Is there any possible way to be able to pack on some more (would love 165) or am I just circumstancially fucked? I already smoke pot for it. Also, as weight pleateaus my strength is starting to plateau, too. Time to cycle my workout. Would love any advice on this as well
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Well, at least you're smart enough to not consider using gear at 140lb, I will commend you on that. Additionally, I don't mean to be a dick to anyone who has posted pics in here, but if you think what is posted here is impressive, I wonder what you'd think about a board that is actually oriented toward bodybuilding/Powerlifting.
The amphetamine obviously isn't working in your favor to gain weight, so measure your options out. I'm not irresponsible enough to tell some kid to stop taking his meds for the purpose to get bigger. So if you think you need the Adderall to function and your doctor wants you to stay on, then by all means stay on it. It will make gaining weight harder, but far from impossible.

Now that we have that out of the way, trying to decrease your natty Test is futile, and completely counter-productive. Not only will it shut your sex drive down, it will also make gaining strength and lean mass impossible. No, I LITERALLY mean it will be impossible for you to make gains if your test is low. You need to see a therapist, because your rages aren't from your Test level, which probably isn't very high anyway. Your behavior is a result of your genetics and the environment in which you were raised. If you feel it's a problem, see a therapist, but don't try anything retarded like lowering your own Testosterone with alcohol and sleep deprivation. You mentioned you're an addict. An addict to what? Don't take any drug other than the one you're prescribed, because it will limit your gains, regardless of whether its heroin or benzos or 2cb123-bxyzqwoeugfui.

Look up Starting Strength and Jim Wendler's 5/3/1. Also, increase your caloric intake. That part goes without saying. The McD's dollar menu is the poor man's protein. Find something high in protein and low in fat, use it to your advantage. I am a huge fan of getting the grilled chicken patty's with no salad. Get 4 orders. Now you have a pound of grilled chicken for $5 even. Yes, I just said it's ok to eat McDonalds, you read that right. Your diet needs heavy amounts of: Milk, eggs, cottage cheese, greek yogurt, beef, chicken, fish, nuts, olive oil, oatmeal, brown pastas/breads/rice, fresh veggies. Literally stuff your face 5-6 times per day with the above foods. At your weight, junk food is perfectly ok as long as you are getting adequate amounts of protein from your meat and dairy sources. In other words, don't make an entire meal out of potato chips and slim jims. Add them to an already balanced one.
 
Some of them are relatively high for me, but then I'm a guy that's half the weight of everyone else...

No, to clarify, addict to the gym, got lucky and escaped the substances :)

Erm no my natural test is relatively high, had a very easy time putting on muscle until this shit. Fortunately I still have the strong libido lol. Just was trying to decrease it in the sense of stopping some of the related supplementation temporarily, nothing above that.

But yes, the McD's... That's very interesting advice I will most definitely make use of. Thank you.
 
I'm just assuming given the signs of high test, so I'm not SURE of course, I'm just guessing what's most likely. I was never stating it as fact, just making my best stab in the dark :).
 
Father Apoklyps said:
I'm just assuming given the signs of high test, so I'm not SURE of course, I'm just guessing what's most likely. I was never stating it as fact, just making my best stab in the dark :).
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You don't have an above normal Testosterone level. If anything your Testosterone level is probably low, hence your problem with putting on muscle now. Amphetamines, as well as many other drugs that block dopamine indirectly cause Prolactin levels to rise. More dopamine is the cause for your strong libido and the higher Prolactin levels cause a downward trend in testosterone levels. High prolactin can cause also cause serious mood swings. Additionally, amphetamines also lower testosterone by decreasing cAMP (Cyclic adenosine monophosphate, an important messenger for biological processes) in the local testicle tissue.

Look into lowering your Adderall dose if you can and it just might be the ticket to making gains.
 
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How do you know if your natural test is high unless you get a blood test?
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There are some common physiological side effects of a higher than normal testosterone level...

Side Effects and Elevated Testosterone Levels

- Acne (primarily on back and shoulders)

- Minor testicle shrinkage

- Reduced fertility

- Hair Loss

- Enlarged prostate
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from...cite #1

Testosterone is converted by the 5 alpha reductase enzyme into DHT; and higher than normal DHT levels is often the cause of hair loss; as well as the enlarging effect on the prostate.

Dihydrotestosterone (DHT) is what is responsible for masculinization of the male primary and secondary sex characteristics. However, ironic enough, DHT is "rather ineffective" for inducing brain masculinization. (source for this: cite #2) - I believe this source goes on to implicate testosterone and estradiol (estrogen metabolite of testosterone) as the hormones responsible for brain masculinization.

I think from this information alone you could infer if you had higher than normal testosterone levels. There are some people with damaged 5 alpha redutase enzymes, or low/none levels of these enzymes. In such a person, their testosterone and estrogen levels may even be normal or high; so that brain masculinization takes place independent of body masculinization (what I'm referring to as the male primary sex characteristics).

I think it would also be especially easy to recognize high test+ high DHT levels endogenously. Maybe it's harder to gauge than I'm imagining, I'm not sure.

What I do know is that it's helpful to have a running record on your own personal levels to get an idea of where you stand.
 
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^^ 666th post! Respect :)

You will also have to note 2 medical conditions being present, which no one did. I have a malabsorption disorder, i.e. I can't absorb nutrients from food properly. Hell when you got a malabsorption problem it's difficult to keep a normal weight, much less gain any. That's kinda why I was wondering if I'm just fucked. My biology was not exactly made in my favour...

Cuz it wasn't until I had that problem did my weight start hitting a cap at 140, which is a fight to just maintain.
 
Father Apoklyps said:
^^ 666th post! Respect :)

You will also have to note 2 medical conditions being present, which no one did. I have a malabsorption disorder, i.e. I can't absorb nutrients from food properly. Hell when you got a malabsorption problem it's difficult to keep a normal weight, much less gain any. That's kinda why I was wondering if I'm just fucked. My biology was not exactly made in my favour...

Cuz it wasn't until I had that problem did my weight start hitting a cap at 140, which is a fight to just maintain.
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You're not fucked. The only time one is fucked is when they lose the motivation to keep moving forward and better themselves.

Take the above advice, and don't give up.

edit: Double post. Don't feel like editing. :|
 
Already did, saved that post and had 4 things of chicken today. I believe very much in self-improvement, so I'm not planning on giving up anytime soon. Thanks for the advice and peace
 
What's your diet like Father? Any chance you could post it up in detail ie. meal times, foods, amount of food in grams.
 
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Lol I use the same exact shaving cream.

Needs more traps and more mass overall.
 
Yeah - I have a thing about cleaning. Don't do it too often like.

I'm 193-196 ATM. Keeping mass is hard when you don't own an automobile.

I should mention that what you see is only revealed by my pose. You won't see everything with just one shot. Mmmmhmm.
 
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