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Codeine Withdrawal

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A little over a week ago i CWE'd six Tylonel 3s and drank it, the next day I CWE'd another eight. I didnt injest anymore codeine for 5 days and had no noticable withdrawal symptoms on anyone of those days. On the fifth day i CWE'd six T3s again to fall asleep, the next day I CWE'd seven more. The day after i felt fine, some diahrrea, but pretty much nothing else. One more day passes and my head is splitting, I feel nauseous, my back aches, my knees are in pain, my throat is sore, and i'm coughing up more mucus than usual. No change in depression or anxiety but im only on day 3.

Is this normal? A little over a month ago i used 10-40mg of Oxycodone for 2 weeks straight, the "withdrawls" from that was some anxiety and sore knees, why is this so much worse?
 
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i could be wrong but that sounds a little like apap OD. Not to lecture is it possible too much apap is getting through? Someone i know pops codeine pills without doing cwe (he is aware now this is dangerous) and has told me e's been suffering from bad headaches and feeling sick with the runs. As for the cold like symptoms that could be mild withdrawal or possibly you are just sick. be safe :)
 
I guess that could be possible, the only available filters i have are t-shirts. After looking up the symptoms of an apap overdose, what i'm going through sounds more like withdrawls though.
 
Hmm, i wouldnt think you would suffer withdrawals after such little use. It certainly is possible, and in your case may be the problem. Any chance your just sick with something shitty? Coincidence you got sick right after.

I really only see two possibilities. Withdrawals, which seem rather severe for such little use. Or you got the flu or something.

When you say no change in depression or anxiety, are you saying its bad and hasnt gotten better, or you feel fairly normal emotionally?
 
i am no expert and you probably are doing the cwe extraction correctly just a couple symptoms you mentioned scream apap OD. If you think you could be withdrawing perhaps take a much lower dose and see if that helps. I would defo still do a cwe tho regardless of how small your dose is just incase. Since you are not suffering from anxiety (yet if at all) i wouldnt suggest Benzo's but they can help with withdrawal anxiety just take it steady with them. They are worse to withdraw from. I'm sure you know all this anyway but just incase you Didnt. Anyways hope your feeling better soon. If you do think for any reason its apap causing the symptoms see a doctor. That shit is bad.
 
If you dont mind me asking, which of these symptoms scream apap overdose? And I feel fairly normal emotionally.
 
headache, feeling nauseous, diarrhea...as i say i am no expert. i wouldn't want you to take my word for it and be wrong but if it is something you feel could be the cause then better safe than sorry. as the other poster said at such little doses, withdrawals are unlikely but possible. if it is not withdrawal then being ill and apap od are certainly possibilities.
 
xpensivtaste said:
headache, feeling nauseous, diarrhea...as i say i am no expert. i wouldn't want you to take my word for it and be wrong but if it is something you feel could be the cause then better safe than sorry. as the other poster said at such little doses, withdrawals are unlikely but possible. if it is not withdrawal then being ill and apap od are certainly possibilities.
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You are certainly correct on those symptoms pointing towards apap OD. I just wouldnt think he would have gotten that with the amount taken. Typically you never want to exceed 4000mg of APAP in 24 hours. However doctors will sometimes place their patients on 1gram acetaminophen 4 times daily for up too two weeks. I myself was told to follow that for 2 weeks by my doc during last years track season.

Even if your CWE completely failed, you were consuming at most 2400mg of APAP a day when you consumed 8 t3's. I certainly wouldnt think this would cause an OD. You should pay attention to your health over the next couple of days just to be safe. If symptoms worsen see a doctor. You dont wanna mess around when it comes to that.
 
(Following a normal dose of 1 gram of paracetamol four times a day for two weeks, patients can expect an increase in alanine transaminase in their liver to typically about three times the normal value. It is unlikely that this dose would lead to liver failure. Studies have shown significant hepatotoxicity is uncommon in patients who have taken greater than normal doses over 3 to 4 days)--this is from Wikipedia, too lazy too search anywhere else.
 
sounds like a short term rebound withdrawals after a little bender. or you may have overdosed on the APAP as others have said.

how are you performing your extraction?
 
I crush the pills to a fine powder, mix with a large glass of water and let it sit in the freezer till it's nice and cold. Then I strain into another glass using a t-shirt or a few layers of paper towel. I notice after the filtered mix has sat for a bit a little leftover powderish stuff shows up at the bottom but i dont drink the bottom/last bit of the liquid, leaving most if not all of the gunk behind.
 
sounds like a solid technique. i wouldn't imagine much apap getting through.

those symptoms you described in your original post are similar to those of mild overdosing of opiates.

if you start to get worse or feel any worse over the coming days then i'd suggest getting checked out by your GP to be on the safe side.
 
actually sounds like you just got sick. It wouldn't be an apap OD if your technique was even close to decent. Even so, the low amount of t3's you took wouldn't cause an overdose. There's no way you would be in withdrawal either. Those are the exact symptoms of the flu, i don't see how no one thought of that, people do get sick sometimes.
 
there is no way that is opiate withdrawal, those symptoms sound nothing to me like opiate withdrawal, id say its a problem with the tylenol more than anything
 
RobotRipping said:
actually sounds like you just got sick. It wouldn't be an apap OD if your technique was even close to decent. Even so, the low amount of t3's you took wouldn't cause an overdose. There's no way you would be in withdrawal either. Those are the exact symptoms of the flu, i don't see how no one thought of that, people do get sick sometimes.
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This was the conclusion I came to as well..
If Im lazy ill take around 7-8 10/325 norcos. You shouldn't ever have a problem with the amount if APAP ingested unless it becomes a chronic thing.
 
I don't think you are withdrawaling to be honest. You didn't take obscene amounts of opiates, and codeine is a very weak opiate as it is. More importantly, you weren't using for long amounts of time uninterrupted. You used for a couple days, took double that time off of them, then used for a couple more days. This is actually a fairly tried and true method of avoiding withdrawals. You probably just got a little bit sick.

For future reference - if you do feel withdrawals after ceasing your opiate use, just go to the drug store and buy some immodium. The active ingredient is Loperamide, which is an opioid. It has a tough time crossing the blood brain barrier, so you won't feel any sort of high unless you take large quantities (I don't feel any type of high unless I take 96mg+) which is why it is available OTC as diarreah medicine, but if you take 3-4 of the 2mg pills it will take away ALL of your withdrawal symptoms.
 
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