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RCs The Methiopropamine N-methyl-1-(thiophen-2-yl)propan-2-amine (MPA) Megathread

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Cyanoide said:
I both agree and disagree. It's a highly functional stimulant in moderate doses, it's helped me at work if I've felt tired or unmotivated.

But higher doses, insufflated but especially vaporised, can get very speedy and slightly euphoric. And it makes me horny as fuck.
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Plugged 40mg is definitely recreational! I don't understand when I read opinions that Ethylphenidate is more recreational, it is the opposite to me. EPH gives hardly any euphoria. I feel my skin tingle when I plug this, in a nice way.

I guess it's because snorting is shit! Stop snorting it you losers. Even bombing it is definitely nicer.
 
Nicklazz said:
Can I use a glass pipe to smoke the MPA, or should it be via foil/a vaporisor?
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I've used a glass pipe (with jet lighter) and it's been fine. Haven't vaped off foil so cannot compare dose efficacy but seems to work.

Knockando, I completely agree about MPA vs EPH (although I actually reckon that bombing MPA is the most favourable ROA all around, although I'll concede the peak is not the best).

Anyway, I've been meaning to ask, is anyone concerned about the potential toxicity of thiophene s-oxides (metabolites of MPA)?

I mean, toxicity has just become one of those words which I tend to ignore. MDMA is neurotoxic, stimulants can be cardiotoxic, blah blah it doesn't really seem to matter. But presumably at some point it does matter - how on earth can you tell?

On the plus side, if I've understood this paper correctly (doubtful), it seems that the cytotoxic properties of MPA include the ability to kill cancer as well as normal cells. Bonus.
 
MPA is nice.

Ethylphenidate sucks.

Wish I never ordered that shit.
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I agree, MPA orally really helps me in my job for days when I feel a bit unmotivated. Ethyl only feels okay when you sniff it the first time, but more than once it has no effects whatsoever then you're left with lingering anxiety. Plus the damage it does to your nose isn't worth it. Taking ethyl orally is a waste of time too. The only good thing is that it sobers you up a bit when you've had too much to drink.
 
lynx2051 said:
Taking ethyl orally is a waste of time too.
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Not for me and many other people. I hate such generalizations. Just because you think that this isn't the case for everyone. I much prefer oral dosing of EPH over nasal and if I don't overdo it there is no anxiety what so ever. This may only happen if you take too much and redose too early, often and high.
Compared to EPH I hate MPA. It feels so toxic and uncomfortable, even in small nearly over threshold doses. But hey, everyone is different ;)
 
lynx2051 said:
Good god, this has got to be the most revolting drug I have ever tasted!!
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I'm glad someone agrees! I mentioned this a few pages back and people weren't feeling it at all!

Having said that, even though it tastes absolutely foul, it's not considerably better or worse than most other proper powder drugs. Except perhaps BZP but that was so long ago that I'm glad I've forgotten how awful it tasted.
 
Ethylphenidate seems to do great things to a select few people and basically jack for the rest of us.

Conclusion: you might like it, it's probably more likely that you won't, but the only way to find out is to try it (safely, as always! :p)
 
knockando said:
Yeah I tend to agree but then I look back at some posts I made when I was on the stuff and they make it sound like a miracle worker - in combos.
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agreed lol... u shud check out the post i made in the EPH thread last night while combo'd with alcohol , etizolam, and eph.

Alone, it is honestly nasty, jittery, anxious terrible.

But add in a 12 pack of beers or a bottle of your liquor of choice and it's a whole-nother experience, the jitters and anxiety are gone and the social-ability desire, over all contentness, and decent euphoria makes it quite enjoyable. Just make sure you do your last line before you run out of alcohol, or else the comedown is still pretty nasty.
 
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Ordered some MPA months ago and was/still am pleasantly surprised.
I''m trying to stay away from amp(as in speed) at the moment, but oh the tiredness ....
After weeks of not being able to function, I decided to try "clear-headed-stim" hopping.

I never use the same substance more than 3 days in a row, and only in amounts that allow me to sleep at night without any help of downers.
I'm trying to stay away from products that cause any mood elevation. That's what I liked the most about the original, and probably why I fell for it.

MPA along with 3-FA and Ethylphenidate are working well for me, binging on them isn't very tempting to me.
And they are not very appealing for party purposes aswell.
For those occasions I'ld prefer plain old MDMA and MDA over just about anything, but to each his own.

I use MPA on and off for approximately half a year now, no more than 120mg/day, and as far as I can tell with no side effects.

On a side note, has anyone tried MPA together with EP?
A source recently wrote that EP seems to react with MPA.
I'm curious to know in what way.
 
16ValveHate said:
Ordered some MPA months ago and was/still am pleasantly surprised.
I''m trying to stay away from amp(as in speed) at the moment, but oh the tiredness ....
After weeks of not being able to function, I decided to try "clear-headed-stim" hopping.

I never use the same substance more than 3 days in a row, and only in amounts that allow me to sleep at night without any help of downers.
I'm trying to stay away from products that cause any mood elevation. That's what I liked the most about the original, and probably why I fell for it.

MPA along with 3-FA and Ethylphenidate are working well for me, binging on them isn't very tempting to me.
And they are not very appealing for party purposes aswell.
For those occasions I'ld prefer plain old MDMA and MDA over just about anything, but to each his own.

I use MPA on and off for approximately half a year now, no more than 120mg/day, and as far as I can tell with no side effects.

On a side note, has anyone tried MPA together with EP?
A source recently wrote that EP seems to react with MPA.
I'm curious to know in what way.
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http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/threads/...l)acetate)?p=10848138&viewfull=1#post10848138
 
You're welcome. If you decide on mixing them I really would advise on really low dosages. Otherwise you'll bring on insane anxiety, panic attacks and heart palpitations.
 
Snorting = shit.

Bombing = better, but still sucks.

Plugged = absolutely wonderful.

I've tried ethylphenidate (only snorted) and it sucks donkey balls compared to MPA. Not recreational AT ALL.

Will try plugging tomorrow or the day after to see how it is using that ROA, if not I'm flushing it.

So far doesn't hold a candle to MPA.
 
I find that MPA on its own a pure functional stim, i only have to dose once and im alert and clear minded. I wouldnt beable to binge in it cos it'll just keep me awake for days lol. Eph on its once using the same ROA sniffing and bombed in a rizla just doesnt agree with me, makes me paranoid, brings on panic attacks and makes me feel really ill. However mixing them both at 10mg each and bombimg them i get the functional side from MPA and i get a sence of well being, i want to talk, i get a ego boost and just generally feeling of satisfaction with the task I'm doing, when mixed I get the claimed euphoria that some people get however never when taken separately.

A few people have said plugging is the way to go but that's not for me, especially with eph, it really hurts my nose so plugging this or worse yet, shooting it has to be painful. As I said before if you mix, really do start very low.
 
Coveman said:
shooting it has to be painful. (EPH)
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Nothing could be further from the truth. It's the only ROA I've found that doesn't involve pain or discomfort and you get a nice rush though obviously you need to rotate veins religiously as you'd expect. IV MPA on the other hand didn't really do anything for me except to give me a few chills. C'est la vie.
 
how does this compare with 2-fma for daily functional stimulant use?

It seems to have less euphoria, which would be a good thing sometimes...
 
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