Regional Heroin Discussion v15

[ructions]

perhaps hes an idiot (your doc) and used the methadone test not the h one.

where's charlie? he's not been about for yonks

What do you mean? It was actually the nurse that did the test & read it this week, then she sent me into my Doctor & he wrote my script & gave me a lecture. Normally the Doctor does the test himself, but the odd time a nurse does it.

She said my test was positive for morphine, i just thought thats what heroin shows up as? What does methadone show up as? Is there really a chance that the test could have been read wrong? Although in fairness i have failed the test after 9 days in the past. But it would be great if the nurse had read the test wrong!

 

[backroll]

At my clinic they read for methadone and gear,I'm assuming they would do at most because...well its the fucking point half the time!but a doctor maybe different...however I understand your point, how is morphine different to either of these substances once metablosised...I will refer you to someone else!sorry for useless post...a bit pissed and bored

 

[brimz]

Gear is alright not as good as last week though .

All this Urine test chat has been done a few times . Some of us like Me , Kat , Ructions take ages to clear our bodies of opiates . As i have said more than once 16 days it took for me to give a clean screen .
I went 7 thought "yeah easy " it came dirty so i did another 7 ( 14 ) & STILL dirty . I asked if i could have retest there and then STILLL dirty . My CPN who was my key at the time suggested that i come in every day until i was clean .
ON day 16 i finally got a faint line ( that means it's all but a trace ) & was given a clean .
This is honest truth .

I also have diluted urine like you Ructions & all that did for me was get me on my final warning to getting kicked off my script which eventually did happen.

Then things got really fuked up & i ended up on my fuking knees , it was without a doubt the worst period of my life . If it weren't for my huge benzo script 56/10mg Diaz & 40ml/80mg temazepam liquid , my best friend staying with me & my on/off partner i would surely be dead .

No shit it got so bad that no one would leave me alone ever for fear of me taking my life . If it wasn't my B/M who also had a habit it was my partner also a Heroin addict that made sure i was never alone.
To this day i do not have a clue how i survived that 6 months .

When the six months were up ( that was my punishment for abusing drug treatment ) i had a appt to get back on a script . I used the last of my money to get a Taxi to the Drug clinic & was rattling bad .
I got their & was told that their had been a mistake & i would not be seen for assesment until two weeks .

At this point i lost control of all emotions burst in to tears & curled in to the fetal position . I don't remember some of the next bit but eventually i was seen by the psychiatrist & given a 40ml methadone script to be titrated to 80ml over the next week .

This was around 2004/5 and if that 's not a lesson to folk not to trust / try & get one over their prescribing authority then i don't know what is .
My father passed away suddenly the following year & things have never been quite the same since .
No sympathy please .

 

[eireann]

morphine fi and heroin are opiates. you have to take a more accurate test to tell the difference between them. you're standard run of the mill piss test will just show heroin etc as an opiate,as you are already on fi ructs id say they would have giving you the correct test.

 

[psykoman]

at my cliniic they test for methadone and opaits and everything else bar cannibas. since i only have to go once every 2 weeks ii can use the week before i have my appointment if i want to. i have used the same week but my usrine is allways been clean in 3 days if i only have 2 bags or so. for benzos its taken up to 8 weeks for them to totaly clean out but i was abusing 50 blues a day and a shitload of etzolam powder!! lucky i never OD'd when i was using ontop. i have usuaaly only get tested once everyy few months ii actualy have not been tested in the last 3 for some odd reason. prob cos i look fine and get along well with my worker and years at my worst i would allways tell here everything ii had taken and have never lied apart from the odd bag i have every month or 2.

 

[ructions]

In my old clinic they used to test for methadone as well as heroin & benzos, coz i remember one week before the drought when i didn't take my methadone for a week my Doctor knew coz my test came back negative for methadone. I assume that the GP clinic that i go to now tests for the same things? Its awful sitting there while they do the drugs test right in-front of me, my heart does be thumping!!! Its a sickening feeling when you see their face change & they they say its positive for morphine.....

Normally i pass the test after 9 days, but i have been caught out a few times! I wonder now with the quality of gear improving would that make it stay in my system longer? I imagine that it would! Also i used more heroin then normal this time, so does that make a difference? Either way i only got one weeks script instead of two coz if failing the test, so i can't use heroin at all this week! The Doctor said that he is only giving me one weeks script next week as well! I told him that i can't get every Friday morning off work to go to do a drugs test! He said that i better pass the test in future so & then after next week he'll start giving me 2 week scripts again. So i can't use for another 2 weeks! This will be my longest break from heroin in a very long time!!! Typical, just when the gear is starting to improve!!!

 

[maxalfie]

I think that there must deffo be a lot more better gear available in larger amounts now.
There has been a gang of local asian heavies going around the local dealers these last 2 weeks trying to force them to sell their gear for them.
Their gear is terrible worse than anything I saw throughout the drought.So they are obviously stuck with a load of crap they bought and have to resort to trying to force folk to sell it for them.

 

[Sprout]

Why don't they clean it up and sell it? Too much effort aye?

 

[opiaterock]

Its good here at the minute too good I am buyin more bags than usual but still goin 4-5 days not usin per week which I think is ok in work now tho and serious aches all over could do with a smoke!! But I know using too many days in a row is bad news

Anyway going to Mallorca in few days I'm thinkin of not even scorin there and enjoying the holidays but I don't know how good that's ginna plan out lol, plus gotta go thru Dublin on the way every time i step foot in that place I score Ah well!!

Just thoughtnid check in with you guys and see how yer all doin!

 

[Crankinit]

In my old clinic they used to test for methadone as well as heroin & benzos, coz i remember one week before the drought when i didn't take my methadone for a week my Doctor knew coz my test came back negative for methadone. I assume that the GP clinic that i go to now tests for the same things? Its awful sitting there while they do the drugs test right in-front of me, my heart does be thumping!!! Its a sickening feeling when you see their face change & they they say its positive for morphine.....

Normally i pass the test after 9 days, but i have been caught out a few times! I wonder now with the quality of gear improving would that make it stay in my system longer? I imagine that it would! Also i used more heroin then normal this time, so does that make a difference? Either way i only got one weeks script instead of two coz if failing the test, so i can't use heroin at all this week! The Doctor said that he is only giving me one weeks script next week as well! I told him that i can't get every Friday morning off work to go to do a drugs test! He said that i better pass the test in future so & then after next week he'll start giving me 2 week scripts again. So i can't use for another 2 weeks! This will be my longest break from heroin in a very long time!!! Typical, just when the gear is starting to improve!!!

I don't see how it's possible to test positive after 9 days, sounds like you got hit with a false positive Shame he'll just never believe you though. If I believed in fate I'd say it was fucking with you. What I do believe in is opiates, so I guess just try to just remind yourself how amazing it'll be to grab some quality H as soon as you pass the test and get your nod on :D

 

[opiaterock]

I agree I don't think it could be actually possible after 9 days!

..sorry DIDN'T think It could!.. Don't kno how to edit a post on my phone hence the double post

 

[blondin]

morphine fi and heroin are opiates. you have to take a more accurate test to tell the difference between them. you're standard run of the mill piss test will just show heroin etc as an opiate,as you are already on fi ructs id say they would have giving you the correct test.

Not true the standard test includes morphine (heroin metabalizes in to it) benzo;s, cannabis, 'done and coke (i think cant remember.) there is no test for heroin as it metabolizes in to morphine very quickly the reason for the euphoria with heroin is it passes the blood/brain barrier very quickly hence the rush.

 

[Myshkin]

Not true the standard test includes morphine (heroin metabalizes in to it) benzo;s, cannabis, 'done and coke (i think cant remember.) there is no test for heroin as it metabolizes in to morphine very quickly the reason for the euphoria with heroin is it passes the blood/brain barrier very quickly hence the rush.

I think that's more or less the exact same point eirann's trying to make, to be honest...

morphine fi and heroin are opiates. you have to take a more accurate test to tell the difference between them.

 

[i against i]

sometimes i believe there is a god.

at station waiting for train to get home from work (southcoast, near brighton), lit a cig and some young lads from london asked for one. anyway, i must come off as a druggie as they asked if there was anywhere around that was good to sell crack. wtf? some 16 year old kids trying to sell crack in an open market? dodgy as fuck i think, they offer me some for £5 a point. saying it was "dark crack", and had been shoved up someone's pooper recently to just before a police search. never heard of "dark crack", i'm into brown. never had crack, but wanted to at somepoint but was thinking it was dodgy, but cheap as fuck, some kids from london in a countryside station offering crack? they offered to show me but as they were undoing the back train showed up. so, good price, bagged up properly, in the end its only a few pounds if i'm ripped off i go for a couple bags. get home all excited to tick off another drug, open the bag. this doesn't look like crack. smells like poop, so i get that sinking feeling. smoke some on foil and whaddya know? it's my good friend mrs b.

they said they were from northwest london, so i guess that's the region. but, as you can probably guess, just standard low grade.

but what the fuck? some kids selling what they thought was crack but actually b for a ridiculously low price in the middle of the countryside? really hope they don't get nicked cuz got talking on the journey and they seemed like good lads.

definately not a good idea to bang ass-b is it? picking up non-ass tomorrow so not too bad..

 

[ructions]

I don't see how it's possible to test positive after 9 days, sounds like you got hit with a false positive Shame he'll just never believe you though. If I believed in fate I'd say it was fucking with you. What I do believe in is opiates, so I guess just try to just remind yourself how amazing it'll be to grab some quality H as soon as you pass the test and get your nod on :D

It might sound strange for heroin to be still in my system after 9 days, but it happens, fact! This has happened to me many times in the past, its because i have a slow metabolism. Normally it takes 8 days for heroin to leave my system, but every now & then i get caught out on the 9th day! I have learned this the hard way. My boyfriend & i always smoke gear together, we use the same amount of gear at the same time, he can pass his drugs test after 4 days, but it takes me at least 8 days every single time!

There are others on this thread that have the same problem as me, Brimz & Kkat both take at least 8 or 9 days before heroin leaves their system as well! We all talked about this in depth on this thread about a year ago. If yous are bored then yous can go back & read how the same thing has happened to others. I have to live with it & its a pain in the arse, but we've talked about it till we were blue i the face before.......

 

[blondin]

I think that's more or less the exact same point eirann's trying to make, to be honest...

i think she was saying that all test for opiates of what ever variety when they certainly do not - there are no tests to pick uo individual drugs at clinics as they are only interestyed in the ones mentioned......ahcome on do we have to start listening to BS again.
im just lucky that i dont have to do any tests....well luck and the fact that i pay for the priverlege butid would rather pay and get mothly pick ups, be treated like a human bean and have a genuine say in my treatment regime.
I never understand folk who dont go this route, the equivelent of 4-5 bags a month and the freedom it gives is well worth it

 

[eireann]

i think she was saying that all test for opiates of what ever variety when they certainly do not - there are no tests to pick uo individual drugs at clinics as they are only interestyed in the ones mentioned......ahcome on do we have to start listening to BS again.
im just lucky that i dont have to do any tests....well luck and the fact that i pay for the priverlege butid would rather pay and get mothly pick ups, be treated like a human bean and have a genuine say in my treatment regime.
I never understand folk who dont go this route, the equivelent of 4-5 bags a month and the freedom it gives is well worth it

im a guy and you know nothing if you are doing a drug test in ireland. for court you have to do an advanced drug test that differentiates between the different opiates.
you think you know everything because you read a post or two but its quite clear you have experienced nothing.again and again you show yourself as a liar.

i thought you blocked my posts so i dont know how you can read them...lol....liar. i couldnt be bothered to argue with the likes of you so just drop it kiddo.

 

[backroll]

Like Sam said you are both saying the same thing, no need for all this lying chat. I am so pissed off at the moment,some prick calling me a liar in another thread, he then posts the private message I sent him. I'm leaving this website for a while, also partly because my missus read some posts of mine about k hole sex and wasn't happy!

Anyway, I'm changing the subject...I fucking hate my stomach! I have a super fast metabolism but gear slows it down so fucking much. I stopped drinking booze whilst smoking junk recently after I finally got round to reading junky, liquids and food just sit in your belly when using, therefore theres no real point in drinking alcohol whilst smoking I have known this for years but it took bill to get it through to me!

Anyway! I just puked my fucking guts up, I have always had a very ropey set of insides...been drinking lots of water and squash this evening whilst having a smoke(new stuff this time,it's paler than anything I have had this year, and does the fucking business) I went to sleep an hour ago but have just been scratching myself silly and hating this heat, have to have the fucking windows almost fully shut because our youngest cat fell 30ft last night!)

Anyway...I got out of bed rolled a cig and barfed everywhere. About 6 hours worth of water. So dehydrated now, fucking migraine as well and i am blatantly about to open one of the items I was saving for tomorrow!! Fucking junky, are there people on here who are good at saving gear?

Soz for the boring post

 

[blondin]

im a guy and you know nothing if you are doing a drug test in ireland. for court you have to do an advanced drug test that differentiates between the different opiates.
you think you know everything because you read a post or two but its quite clear you have experienced nothing.again and again you show yourself as a liar.

i thought you blocked my posts so i dont know how you can read them...lol....liar. i couldnt be bothered to argue with the likes of you so just drop it kiddo.

unfortunately when i changed my avitar my settings changed ..back to barring you now. Funny i always imagined you as a 15 year old girl sitting in her room , cross, cos her M&D wouldnt let you paint it black. You dont know how to quote people - you qouted BR not me you fool. now go back to that stone you crawled out of - its been lovely here since you and trip buggered off,

. So you think that a drug test in a clinic in ireland consists of testing for any opiate when the clinic is giving you 'done??? you fecking ijeet if you had ever had a script you would know.

 

[eireann]

blah blah blah...blondin the only long term heroin addict with a big car perfect family and good job lol. good look...LIAR,Im done with you now you know nothing. anyone will tell you that those drug tests are available,i know as i have had them done...unlike you obviously,dont comment on my posts again

you are too thick too realize that every one knows youre full of bs,they're just not bothered calling you up on it...

YOU ARE A LIAR SIR YOU LIVE IN YOUR OWN LITTLE FANTASY WORLD...we shall leave it at that,good bye bondin.