Teen Shoots Self In Attempt To Wake Up From Shroom-Induced Nightmare bad trip....

thats a very sad story.

i also had a panic attack on mushrooms+mdma and i didnt think i was myself, before what led me to that i thought cops/swat was after me i was whispering and getting low to the ground so people couldnt hear me, was seeing faces through the blinds i just got wayyyyy way way to caught up and i wasnt expecting to trip hard. i wasnt in controll really was like autopilot just flailing legs and arms and mumbling all kinds of shit. i had my nice boker pocket knife out ready to jab my jugualar and i i still thought to myself this will be the end of my life most likely and i pictured my blood every where and thought "this isnt right DONT".


i came down and didnt remember much and then started piecing it together.

was my fault though, i ate some really fuckin strong mushrooms coming down from a high dose session of mdma. i couldnt breath well was like i was gasping for air. oh yeah i flushed all my mushrooms to, my buddy was like heyyyyyyyyy bro you flushing your stash and i looked at em and went shhhhhhhh

that was my first run in with a mushrooms trip where i became scared of how i reacted,etc. iv tripped multiple times on them and mdma since then, that night i just got caught with my pants down expecting my mushrooms to be half ass and dosed wayyy to late in the mdma, i was all drained out when i consumed the fungi. i learned alot from my mistakes that night.

i and others i know agree mushrooms are really dreamy, at times itll be hard to decypher which is which, like: real/fake loud/quite hot/cold
 
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Funny that, because we manage just fine in the UK and a lot of other countries do just fine also.

In Australia, even my most gun-loving friends would rather our laws over USA's.
Kind of on-topic, anyways, carry on.


thats a very sad story.

i also had a panic attack on mushrooms+mdma and i didnt think i was myself, before what led me to that i thought cops/swat was after me i was whispering and getting low to the ground so people couldnt hear me, was seeing faces through the blinds i just got wayyyyy way way to caught up and i wasnt expecting to trip hard. i wasnt in controll really was like autopilot just flailing legs and arms and mumbling all kinds of shit. i had my nice boker pocket knife out ready to jab my jugualar and i i still thought to myself this will be the end of my life most likely and i pictured my blood every where and thought "this isnt right DONT".


i came down and didnt remember much and then started piecing it together.

was my fault though, i ate some really fuckin strong mushrooms coming down from a high dose session of mdma. i couldnt breath well was like i was gasping for air. oh yeah i flushed all my mushrooms to, my buddy was like heyyyyyyyyy bro you flushing your stash and i looked at em and went shhhhhhhh

that was my first run in with a mushrooms trip where i became scared of how i reacted,etc. iv tripped multiple times on them and mdma since then, that night i just got caught with my pants down expecting my mushrooms to be half ass and dosed wayyy to late in the mdma, i was all drained out when i consumed the fungi. i learned alot from my mistakes that night.a

i and others i know agree mushrooms are really dreamy, at times itll be hard to decypher which is which, like: real/fake loud/quite hot/cold

Doing shrooms when coming down from MDMA?
Ugh, sounds horrid to me.

Terrance McKenna had a bad shroom trip in the late 1980's and never used shrooms again, rather he stuck to DMT and other psychedelics.
 
I have had incredibly intense trips, and a few terrible trips, when I theoretically could have killed myself if there had been a weapon around.
I knew that dying wouldn't help during my bad trips, but I can imagine not believing the I really would die.
Several times, there was absolutely no difference between me and the guitar or the couch, or anything else. One time I wrote on my beautiful guitar, because I "knew" that it didn't matter. In such a mood, if a gun had been accessible...who knows.
But I am not a fan of guns. I think American gun laws are very sad and permit a violent war-like society.
 
How could he sleep on shrooms? They give me insomnia. I think he just laid down frying, got stuck in a loop and couldn't take it.

He should have shot himself with benzos or Thorazine instead of a gun. Benzo mellow the trip out so much it's almost not fun anymore.
 
Agree that the problem here is a 17 year old having access to a firearm.
Shrooms are relatively safe and harmless (when used by mature individuals).
Guns are nothing but lethal weapons.
There is no way in hell "the people" could overthrow the government of the united states without suffering mass slaughter first. This whole "we need guns to protect us from the government" angle seems really strange to a non-statesider such as myself. Try protecting yourself with a gun during a drug raid and see how well that goes.

The only things Americans have guns for is to protect themselves from one another.
Drugs like psilocin/psilocybin should be legal, either way.
 
And, for some, 17 is much too young to take mushrooms. Where are this child's parents?

Man, that makes me sound old. But from personal experience, I would never want to trip where there are weapons handy. I've been brandished at once but a delirious knife wielder. Glad he didn't have a gun. We proffered benzos. Worked. He settled down, but boy were we uneasy for a while.

Glad not many people here in Canada have that same "they're gonna come for us!" conspiracist viewpoint. Maybe they will come, but it's so much more pleasant to behave that way.
 
guns should be illegal

Totally retarded knee jerk comment.

"A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional immaturity"
-Freud

However some agree with you buddy

"All political power comes from the barrel of a gun. The communist party must command all the guns, that way, no guns can ever be used to command the party."
- Mao Tse Tung

"The measures adopted to restore public order are: First of all, the elimination of the so-called subversive elements .... They were elements of disorder and subversion. On the morrow of each conflict I gave the categorical order to confiscate the largest possible number of weapons of every sort and kind. This confiscation, which continues with the utmost energy, has given satisfactory results."
- Benito Mussolini
 
Agree that the problem here is a 17 year old having access to a firearm.
Shrooms are relatively safe and harmless (when used by mature individuals).
Guns are nothing but lethal weapons.
There is no way in hell "the people" could overthrow the government of the united states without suffering mass slaughter first. This whole "we need guns to protect us from the government" angle seems really strange to a non-statesider such as myself. Try protecting yourself with a gun during a drug raid and see how well that goes.

The only things Americans have guns for is to protect themselves from one another.
Drugs like psilocin/psilocybin should be legal, either way.

Some of us are ready to die and see our brothers die for a just cause. But i digress.

I'm not even from the US.

/offtopic
 
Totally retarded knee jerk comment.
at least you're aware of what you're posting...

where i live, hardly anyone has a gun besides hunters and people who deal with it at work. surprisingly it's one of the safest cities world-wide. i need no gun and if i get in trouble (which never really happened, and yes i leave my appartement on a regular basis) i rather run. and people who envision revolution or some heroic-violent bullshit are pathetic.
 
Same thing (minus the self-inflicted gunshot wound) happened to me on shrooms when I was 17. I feel asleep after eating a particularly potent batch of shrooms and when I awoke I was convinced I was still dreaming. I did some outrageous shit trying to wake myself up from the dream, including busting into my parents room and messing with them. I considered throwing myself out my window and if I had a gun at hand I might have done something regrettable. Wrote a trip report about it.

Yeah, this hits a little close to home.
 
I have a few times fell asleep after ingesting psychs, usually because I was drunk, and then woken up while tripping, and Im not surprised he thought he was dreaming...it certainly does not feel real. And honestly, if you think you are dreaming, logic take a back seat...we've all had dreams where we did stuff totally illogical, but it worked in dream land.
 
Gun prohibition is retarded for the same reasons drug prohibition is retarded:

1) people will get them anyway

2) BUT, they will be forced to get them on the black market

3) therefore, organized crime groups will step in to mass-supply on the black market

4) black market gun sales (like black market drug sales) will then be used to fund genuinely criminal activities like fraud, identity theft, murder etc.

It's almost the exact same logical model as the drug prohibition argument, and it's virtually water-tight.

To be fair, I think the case for drug legalization is a little stronger than the case for liberal gun laws, because with guns there is this whole "where do we draw the line" element (i.e. "if we can all have guns, does that mean we can all have hand grenades? missles?")

But for moderate cases it's still the same essentially unbeatable logic that only children and fascists will really argue with.
 
Gun prohibition is retarded for the same reasons drug prohibition is retarded:

1) people will get them anyway
Er, no. Not to the same extent as drugs. There is much much less demand. I have an innate drive to get stoned, but I have no desire whatsoever to get my hands on a gun.

There may well be a black market for guns here in the UK (and other countries where guns are illegal) but it is small and self-contained. The only people who buy guns are those who are already pretty heavily into crime and intend to use them for that purpose. Not like drugs, which are enjoyed by a sizeable proportion of the population - people who then become labelled as "criminals", risk jail time, etc, for no reason other than their drug use.

When you think harder about it, they're really quite different.
 
Well it really depends on the type of gun in question, but i would tend to side with Jimmy pop on this one-if a redneck wants a gun, like he wants a beer, he'll get one. Prohibition is a ludicrous attempt at regulation which nearly always results in the opposite; dysregulation. That applies to a lot more than guns if you think about it for 2 seconds.
 
@voxide - are you going to try to support that argument, or just call people names?

i'm not convinced. fuck guns - a huge proportion of americans don't even fucking vote, let alone stage revolutions. they just shoot each other.

glad i don't live there, glad gun control is tight where i live. the criminals with guns here tend to shoot other for gang/turf related reasons.
we haven't had a massacre in over 15 years (which lead to tighter gun control!) because it's too much effort for your average psychopath to get enough fire power to do the kind of shit that happens in the USA all the time.

also, "drugs like shrooms" grow naturally upon the earth.
guns have no purpose but killing. the only reasons americans think they need them is that so many of their countrymen is also armed. not every country in the world has got to this point yet. there may be some weird historical reasons for america's "right to bear arms" but it means squat to countries where people can peacefully coexist.
no, we're not stocking up for the alien invasion either.
 
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guns should be illegal

a gun in hand is better than a 911 operator on the phone saying the "cops will be there in just a moment, hang tight, relax". i prefer to take control of the situation myself, thank you very much. just because one owns a gun doesn't mean they're going to go crazy and go on a killing rampage. yes, some do, but one can go on a killing rampage with a friggin knife too or any other object that can be used as a weapon. guns are not to blame for the psychotic actions people do. people will be crazy if that's how they are. a spoon doesn't make you fat = a gun doesn't make you a killer.
 
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