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Ideal Guidelines for a first-time AMT user.

velmwend

velmwend

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Okay - so if you could offer a list of bullet point type guidelines for first-time AMT use, what would some of your points be?

I'm due to order some AMT next week. It's been about 19 years since I last tripped (I went a bit mad in the early 90's, then settled down a little). I've done *some* homework on AMT and I've decided to start with a small 10-15mg dose - just to test the waters. Do you think this would be a sufficient first-time dose?

I was hoping to get some some 4-aco-dmt but found out that it's illegal in the UK. ((shame - I used to love shrooms)).

Anyhows, what would your ideal AMT guidelines for the first-time user be?

=D
 
Oh dear, RIP the poor guy who died! Been reading about 25I-NBOMe this morning. I wonder why it's so hard to source in the UK?
 
Took 35mg on saturday and found it MUCH nicer body load wise than my previous experiences with 50mg. anything over say 70mg would be insanely high for me, not recommended.
 
Jinux said:
Took 35mg on saturday and found it MUCH nicer body load wise than my previous experiences with 50mg. anything over say 70mg would be insanely high for me, not recommended.
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What's your view on 10-15mg, jinux? Bearing in mind I've not done any type of drugs for 19 years...
 
velmwend said:
What's your view on 10-15mg, jinux? Bearing in mind I've not done any type of drugs for 19 years...
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To be honest I've never been that low. My Fiancee took 25mg on saturday with me and experienced the same lowering of body load than previous experiences but she also reported a huge drop in noticeable visuals. She found they would come and go, mostly not having any though.

I believe at around 10-15mg you'd lack any visuals in the LSD sense, possibly experiencing some colour brightening, smoothing of edges and that's about it. You should still grab a nice mood lift and a clear insightful mind space though - which in my opinion is one of the major reasons to go with aMT. Visuals are just a cool side effect :D
 
Thanks Jinux. I tend to get off more on the introspection as opposed to the visuals anyhow. I believe it's good for CEV, which suits me well. Maybe I'll up dose to 25 then. Any idea why 25c-nbome isn't available in the UK?
 
I've had doses in the following ranges: 60mg (very strong trip), 30mg (very mild, just above threshold, very chatty), 15mg (just a slightly altered head space. Not unpleasant but not much to write home about).

As for advice, your starting point seems very sensible. You can always try for higher later. Come up can be pretty rough so try some anti-nausea tablets. It is quite stimmy and yet simultaneously heavy.

I really enjoyed my 60mg experience. Also took a couple of bumps of MXE. Things got very, very trippy after that. Not everyone's cup of tea. aMT makes my lovely lady very, very poorly, even at low doses. Gives her nausea and, because of the body load and tension, significant pain in her back.

Go easy and have fun.

Oh, just to offer another line of thinking, 6-APB is wonderful stuff. Can get very trippy at higher doses. Have a search through the 6-APB mega-thread. Might be a different direction to go.
 
Thanks shifty, I'll check out 6-apb. wasn't 100% sure it was for me at first - what with the comparisons to mdma, but I've read that it's closer to mda. Exciting times!
 
Looking around a bit, 5-meo-dalt looks pretty spot on regards what I'm searching for. Hmm
 
velmwend said:
Oh dear, RIP the poor guy who died! Been reading about 25I-NBOMe this morning. I wonder why it's so hard to source in the UK?
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Easiest way to make is from 2C-I which is illegal in UK and there are remnants of it in the final product.
 
I've dosed from 2 - 45mg.
2mg is a perfect happy day without anyone noticing anything about you
10-15mg is nice for a trip at home, maybe add some mushrooms when you try it for the second time.
i take +/- 20-25mg when I go dancing in a club
and roughly 30-40mg when I go to an electronic music event.

T+0h: Ingestion
T+0h30: first alert
T+2h30-3h: plateau reached
T+3h - T+15h: plateau
T+15h - T+24h: after effects
T+24h - 1week: afterglow !!!
 
My first time was 70mg. Was very experienced with psychedelics by then, and enyoyed with zero nausea. Just gas(burp-a-lot) Body chills/flushes too. Very dialated pupils till t+25 orso. Would do it more often if I had the time. The day after an acid trip i'll often go working(afternoon-evening shift 15:00-22:30) which I enjoy very much, but I felt physically tired too after aMT, like after raving for eight hours, or after a whole night meph binge. So, in high doses atleast, this is really one to take the next day off. even moreso than Ecstasy or acid.

So after an allergy test, i'd take 30-40 mgs first timer.
 
hello.
i recently tried AMT for the first time, in a similar mind set i guess [ had a mad time in the 90s and then had a very quiet period ]
spent a lot of time reading and discovered that a lot of ppl have negative experiences when dosing too low, now that i've experienced the 'body load' i can see why.

what i did; obviously, an allergy test or two [ i just dabbed very small amounts every now n then as had the bag in the fridge for weeks before i took it ] then 50mg disolved in vinegar and stuck it up my ass.
No naseau, but a rapid and jittery [ near panic ] come up.
It was intense, but i enjoyed it.
You're going to need company and a safe place free from distractions and straight ppl for a good 12 hours if not more.
I'd also dose early [ i did mine at 10am and was still high when i finally went to bed at 5am ]
As for the 4-aco-dmt...there are a lot of similar chemicals that are still uk - legal, i'm no expert but if you're going to go down that route you're going to have to do a shit-ton of reading and buy some decent scales.

just read the other posts and realised i'm pretty much repeating what other ppl have said!
but yeah, i'd also +1 the idea of trying apb before it gets banned, it can be pretty trippy but is more forgiving than AMT and you're less likely to end up rolling around the floor in a gurning, sweaty mess....you'll be a walking, talking, gurning sweaty mess...but with less chance of getting the Fear

as for introspection - from my one and only experience i'd say AMT may not be the right chemical, i had planned to do it alone but ended up visiting friends, the uncontrolable shaking etc could have been quite alarming if i'd been alone, but friends distracted me and kept the atmosphere light....i find apb is great when i'm alone, long walks miles away from civilisation and headphones...good times [ wafle waffle tldr ]
 
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Some great advice here, thanks very much. I took my first acid tab when I was 16 (1992). The only reason I wanted to take acid was because I was a big fan of jimi hendrix and he loved his lsd. I was in the good company of a few friends who were older and more expeienced than me, so I was looked after, and we spent the whole night wandering through fields and woodland, then we sat next to a stream at sunrise and I remember lying on my back, gazing at the leaves flitting in the dreamy breeze and knowing that my life would never be the same. This is what I love about the internet - there are still people out there who are acting as good guides and imparting great wisdom and helping others along the path. Very commendable!
 
i needed looking after on AMT, so unless you've got understanding, non judgemental friends i'd deffo consider something else....but everyones different i quess.
more leaning towards natural substances now...the AMT was a near miss, i was lucky to find seasoned trippers who didnt bat an eye lid as i played with my hands, and made me tea and found me cushions.
as i've said, it was great, but not a life changing trip.
50mg may've been a little bit too much but it was like a psychedelic Sgt Major, it kinda shouted at me "GET ON THE FLOOR! NOW STAY THERE MAGGOT!"
 
Decided on 5-meo-Dalt. I like the idea of the CEV over the OEV and it's forgiving nature/short duration. Still gonna get a stash of AMT though...while the going's good! :)
 
come back and say how you got on....very curious about that chem, probably gunna get a little bit but hear so many mixed opinions about it...
 
Me too...I've read the entire two parts of the big dandy here, and the trip reports at erowid. very mixed indeed! It's almost as if people been taking entirely different chems. Ah well, here's hoping my chosen vendor will wire me some good stuff :)

It's surprising how quickly things evolve. 1/7/2012 I was enquiring about AMT. 3 days later and after much online digging, I've just ordered my first batch of 25i-nbome. I hope I've made the right choice :)
 
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