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Regional Heroin Discussion v15
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It's bulk prices we have a problem with, not price discussion. You're thinking of one of the other parts of BL.
As long as it's kept to teenths maximum then it's not harmful to my mind. It only becomes an issue when people break the rules.
Carry on...
That is a great idea!
I wonder is it too late for me to try something like that? I did a 3 week detox using methadone a few years ago & it was totally 100% painless!!! But at the time i'd only been using heroin for one year & i'd never really used methadone before that.I wonder is it too late for me to try something like that now? Coz now i've been using heron for 10 years & i've been on the dreaded methadone for 6 years, coz when i think back the 3 week detox was so bloody easy! I stayed from gear/any drug for about 3 months afterwards, but this time i'd really appreciate been free from heroin & methadone so SO much more!!!!
Rattles
Bluelighter
Hiya Ructs,
It has been getting a little bitchy round here hasn't it? Hope you're doing OK, but I thought it sounded like you were spending quite a lot! I've been on my meth 'script about 7 years, most of that time on/off with the brown. I'd really like to be totally opiate/opioid free too, but the closest I've come since I was scripted was sept-dec last year when I swapped onto Missus Rs left-over subs (there were a LOT! LOL). Ran out just 3 days B4 xmas then just couldn't face all the family stuff and slipped back onto the green even tho' I wasn't feeling that bad. I managed to detox a few times straight off the brown without too much nastiness ('cept coupla weeks of no sleep) B4 I went on the green, but never since. Tell you what - you try the 3 week/2 week thing and let me know in 5 weeks how it's going
Love
Rattles
It has been getting a little bitchy round here hasn't it? Hope you're doing OK, but I thought it sounded like you were spending quite a lot! I've been on my meth 'script about 7 years, most of that time on/off with the brown. I'd really like to be totally opiate/opioid free too, but the closest I've come since I was scripted was sept-dec last year when I swapped onto Missus Rs left-over subs (there were a LOT! LOL). Ran out just 3 days B4 xmas then just couldn't face all the family stuff and slipped back onto the green even tho' I wasn't feeling that bad. I managed to detox a few times straight off the brown without too much nastiness ('cept coupla weeks of no sleep) B4 I went on the green, but never since. Tell you what - you try the 3 week/2 week thing and let me know in 5 weeks how it's going
Love
Rattles
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charlie clean
Bluelighter
Dunno, Blondin. By Doppelganga's own account he's only been on the meth since April 17th. It takes between 10 and 12 weeks before it achieves the serious hold familiar to all long term users. Coincidentally or not, 12 weeks is the period most dsps keep newcomers on 'supervised consumption', usually at a dosage well below what they need properly to quell the smack cravings. Then, having given them a meth habit, they offer to help them to come off. Drug Treatment most places is a bad joke and often causes more harm than good.
No reason at all why you shouldn't give it a crack, Ructs, although it's up to you whether to involve your dsp. If you knock down 2 or 3mls a day every week - or adjust it to whatever you can handle as you go along - it's pretty much a doddle till your down to the 30mg a day mark. After that, it becomes progressively more difficult. But, in your case, methadone does little to stop your wanting heroin and, if you do it on the qt, at worst you'll have accumulated a decent stockpile for when you can go no further. With the euro crisis and a world economic system that, according to some experts, grows ever closer to meltdown, it could be prudent to keep something in reserve in case the balloon ever does go up. Pretty depressing thought - as long as it's not before Christmas, eh? I know chronic addicts who are far from alarmists but nonetheless collect any dried poppy heads they find to throw in the cupboard for such a contingency. Dried poppies have the advantage of lasting practically for ever and a crude hit is better than no hit at all.
It's my belief that poppy tea is the easiest way of all to come off because it happens naturally. After a week or so you're so sick of drinking the bloody stuff you don't need any encouragement to take the very minimum to keep you on an even keel and, almost, before you know it, your tolerance is a fraction of what it was when you started. Just a thought for opiate users who want out.
No reason at all why you shouldn't give it a crack, Ructs, although it's up to you whether to involve your dsp. If you knock down 2 or 3mls a day every week - or adjust it to whatever you can handle as you go along - it's pretty much a doddle till your down to the 30mg a day mark. After that, it becomes progressively more difficult. But, in your case, methadone does little to stop your wanting heroin and, if you do it on the qt, at worst you'll have accumulated a decent stockpile for when you can go no further. With the euro crisis and a world economic system that, according to some experts, grows ever closer to meltdown, it could be prudent to keep something in reserve in case the balloon ever does go up. Pretty depressing thought - as long as it's not before Christmas, eh? I know chronic addicts who are far from alarmists but nonetheless collect any dried poppy heads they find to throw in the cupboard for such a contingency. Dried poppies have the advantage of lasting practically for ever and a crude hit is better than no hit at all.
It's my belief that poppy tea is the easiest way of all to come off because it happens naturally. After a week or so you're so sick of drinking the bloody stuff you don't need any encouragement to take the very minimum to keep you on an even keel and, almost, before you know it, your tolerance is a fraction of what it was when you started. Just a thought for opiate users who want out.
eireann
Bluelighter
2-4 days of cold turkey followed by a week worth of benzos will do the trick after a couple of days of cold turkey
even one xanax\d-10\zimmo will feel like the biggest hit of ur life the only prob u will have is the months of
mental shit
methadone treatment is a joke its just the goverments way of curbing crime alot of ppl are on fi 10+ years
come on how is that really helping the person to be truly clean u need to b free of all drugs
otherwise u will always be an addict and can never really move on
well said dude hope u get off it
even one xanax\d-10\zimmo will feel like the biggest hit of ur life the only prob u will have is the months of
mental shit
methadone treatment is a joke its just the goverments way of curbing crime alot of ppl are on fi 10+ years
come on how is that really helping the person to be truly clean u need to b free of all drugs
otherwise u will always be an addict and can never really move on
well said dude hope u get off it
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doppelganga196
Bluelighter
I think i'll drop down to 45mg then jump off & get a couple of 28 count boxes of 15mg oxazepam & see if my doc will give me some clonidine. I've never had clonidine, only read lots about it on bluelight. Anybody on here have any experience with this medicine? It's mainly a blood pressure med right? It sounds like it's good for anxiety & i can get pretty much any benzo too - diazepam/temazepam are easy n cheap to get but for about a £ a pill, a fairly high price, i can get librium, oxazepam, nitrazepam, lorazepam, clonazepam & aplrazolam.
I have diazepam on script but it's only 2 mg tabs now. I know it's likely the best benzo to help me through opiate withdrawal, but i've got a slight tolerance to it & i never go above 30 maaaybe 40mg a day as it gives me a weird "paradoxical reaction" - hours of hiccups. Seriously it's an absolute nightmare when you have the hiccups for more than 2 hours, lol.
K so that said i really quite like oxazepam these days as it is a fairly benevolent benzo. Also on 60mg i can get the exact same enjoyable/strong effect that i got off 20mg valium the first few times i used it.
Would anybody say there's a better benzo to suite a pronlonged wd from methadone? I thought maybe nitrazepam as ive had it before, i know it's potent & if i were to take 5/10mg a night to sleep its effects carry on well into the next day. However, although ive never had it, i thought maybe clonazepam could be a decent med.
I reckon i'll go with the oxazepam & ask ole doc about clonidine &&&& since i have a legit pain issue, if i were to present myself to him in cold turkey from methadone he might give me some DHC? Anybody had DHC in the treatment of opiate withdrawal?
I have diazepam on script but it's only 2 mg tabs now. I know it's likely the best benzo to help me through opiate withdrawal, but i've got a slight tolerance to it & i never go above 30 maaaybe 40mg a day as it gives me a weird "paradoxical reaction" - hours of hiccups. Seriously it's an absolute nightmare when you have the hiccups for more than 2 hours, lol.
K so that said i really quite like oxazepam these days as it is a fairly benevolent benzo. Also on 60mg i can get the exact same enjoyable/strong effect that i got off 20mg valium the first few times i used it.
Would anybody say there's a better benzo to suite a pronlonged wd from methadone? I thought maybe nitrazepam as ive had it before, i know it's potent & if i were to take 5/10mg a night to sleep its effects carry on well into the next day. However, although ive never had it, i thought maybe clonazepam could be a decent med.
I reckon i'll go with the oxazepam & ask ole doc about clonidine &&&& since i have a legit pain issue, if i were to present myself to him in cold turkey from methadone he might give me some DHC? Anybody had DHC in the treatment of opiate withdrawal?
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eireann
Bluelighter
doppel ul need motillium imodium ponston or df118s and a sleeper too switch the d-2s to xanax aka alprozam wudnt bother if u can only get 2.5 alprozam tho yad may aswel be taking panodol...lol
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Do you mean 0.25mg alprazolam? Because most people with low-to-medium benzo tolerance would feel 2.5mg. Believe me.
Except maybe El Brimzo, who can take 60mg nitraz and still go out for a run, but he's been on them uninterrupted for years.
doppelganga196
Bluelighter
^That must mean the ONAX alprazolam i had last year were fake. Anybody else on here had those? I know this aint the benzo thread but ive seen them mentioned here before. They sucked. I just thought since i'd never had xanax/alprazolam before that it was the crappest benzo ever 'cos i took 4 mg & felt next to nothing.
eireann
Bluelighter
xanax is the one pill dealers in ireland will swap gear for..they go mad for 1mg [purple] or even .5 [pinks] in the us u can get a 2mg tab its blue seen it on the net and thought wow....thats asking for trouble
yes samhaingrim there white and shite..lol i dunno i found if i take 4 whites which is equal to 1mg [purple]
i still dont feel it id say its in my head as the whites are really made for getting off the the pinks\purples
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You talkk alot about benzos to come of 'done but it doesnt really help that much apart fr om giving you a little sleep jumping off 45 will be as bad as 65 it only takes 6 weeks or so to build up a high blood plasma level of 'done so like i said b4 try and taper. MY doc once gave me DHC for the last bit of a 'done taper trouble was i was still taking gear and had to literally take handfulls to stop the rattle (cant remember the equivelent but i think 1 dhc is the same as 1 or 3mg of done)
I use to get 50mg oxezapam ffrom a mate lovely benzo with a nice short h/l
eireann
Bluelighter
alprozolam is xanax dude
yeah id take xanax over d-10s any day zimmovane is my fav tho its a semi benzo..dont ask me what that means it wont knock u out like dalmane or mogadon but the buzz
is gorge
Hi all.
I never really thought much of Xanax. Much prefer D10's or zimmos although I can't remember what strength the Xanax I got were. It was a few years ago. They were probably weak ones.
Got some Rohypnol about 7 or 8 years ago. They were very strong. Took 2 one night with a few pints & couldn't remember anything for 2 or 3 days.
Dalmane & mogadon are good too.
Scored from the guys who had the good stuff. Same as what Ructions got.
It was different. Very light off-white / beige colour.
I think it's better than the last batch. It has the same nice strong taste but I think there's more strength in it.
It's nice for smoking. Still not pre-drought top quality but I'm defo happy with it.
HI RUCTIONS.
Hope life is good.
Go easy on the stuff. Sounds like you're blowing alot of money on it from your posts.
Maybe try to give it a break for a few days. That's what I'm doing. Trying not to get back into it too heavy.
The drought has brought all our use / tolerance down alot. It would be a shame to waste all the suffering from the last 2 years & to get back using real heavy again.
Anyway, hope everyone is doing good.
I never really thought much of Xanax. Much prefer D10's or zimmos although I can't remember what strength the Xanax I got were. It was a few years ago. They were probably weak ones.
Got some Rohypnol about 7 or 8 years ago. They were very strong. Took 2 one night with a few pints & couldn't remember anything for 2 or 3 days.
Dalmane & mogadon are good too.
Scored from the guys who had the good stuff. Same as what Ructions got.
It was different. Very light off-white / beige colour.
I think it's better than the last batch. It has the same nice strong taste but I think there's more strength in it.
It's nice for smoking. Still not pre-drought top quality but I'm defo happy with it.
HI RUCTIONS.
Hope life is good.
Go easy on the stuff. Sounds like you're blowing alot of money on it from your posts.
Maybe try to give it a break for a few days. That's what I'm doing. Trying not to get back into it too heavy.
The drought has brought all our use / tolerance down alot. It would be a shame to waste all the suffering from the last 2 years & to get back using real heavy again.
Anyway, hope everyone is doing good.
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charlie clean
Bluelighter
Right. A 30mg DHC tablet is equivalent to about 2.5 mg methadone, the strongest opiate in the popularly-dispensed pack.
Did you receive the script on a maintenance basis, doppelganga, or are under some sort of time limit?
eireann
Bluelighter
sorry...what? lol anyone ere ever smoke tylex??? i no how mental that sounds but it gives a buzzNo shit?
I already knew that, but why?
bc007 that tallaght batch is gona kill alot of ppl,
bc007 is it as strong as the last tallaght batch that came in after the drought??? that stuff killed one of my dealers and another 4 ppl in my area
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griffin79
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i did and i got no buzz off it
i don't think the gear is strong enough to kill anyone just yet unless they bang up a gram of it in one go
Hi BC007!
Great to hear of another improvement! At this rate things will be back on track in no time!!! YAY!!! Yeah i'm trying to take it easy, i didn't score yesterday or to-day. Although the only reason for that is coz i ran out of cash! I get paid tomorrow so i have to go over to the guy that i score off to give him the money that i owe him, it will be so tempting to score while i'm there! But then i stand the risk of failing my drugs test when i'm back in the clinic, i don't wanna lose my take away! So i'm back to the auld yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, yes, no, YES, NO, YESSSSSS........ Head-wreck!!! 8(- Status