Miami face-eater thread

Doctor_Ew420 said:
Has anyone considered Datura or another atropine plant...???

I have read a LOT about 'bath salts' and MDPV... I know that people have had almost immediate psychosis from MDPV, some it takes a day or two of pretty normal use. I have not heard of any of them actually becoming violent. I have heard of many cases of people under the influence of atropine's being very violent, almost completely numb to physical pain and erratic. I have never seen another plant/class of drug that truly turns people into 'zombies'
All those stories of people being dosed with scopolamine and being willed into emptying their apartments or bank accounts to their attacker. That is a zombie if you ask me.
The guy was Haitian. I know that not all Haitian's practice voodoo, but maybe this guy decided to dabble. Datura has been used in voodoo practices for ages!
I bet it was just datura... it's strange that everyone would assume it is RC's
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I thought Voodoo wasn't always evil practice? Aren't most voodoo followers/believers carrying around significant items (the crow foot is it?) to prevent evil spirits from getting to them? Or the brick dust to keep them out of their homes?

http://miami.cbslocal.com/2012/06/0...ed-now-connected-to-causeway-cannibal-case-2/
 
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SableStarr said:
I thought Voodoo wasn't always evil practice? Aren't most voodoo followers/believers carrying around significant items (the crow foot is it?) to prevent evil spirits from getting to them? Or the brick dust to keep them out of their homes?
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I've lived around practitioners of Santeria all my life and I've never encountered an evil santero.

I used to work in a community mental health center where the owners were all santeros. You couldn't tell until you noticed the little gods tucked into inconspicuous places all over the facility. Like this guy:

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One time we had a JCAHO inspection and the owners decided that under no circumstances would the gods be removed from the premises, so we stuffed them all into an out-of-the-way closet and hoped that the health inspectors wouldn't notice the closet full of gods.
 
For those that don't want a good read there's always the Daily Mail :)

Is Cloud Nine behind the 'zombie apocalypse'? Police issue warning about new drug after TWO more cannibal attacks
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By Rachel Quigley
PUBLISHED: 12:01, 7 June 2012

With reader comments

  • Mind altering drug available over the counter in the U.S., but banned in Britain
  • Police link the drug to previous horrific cannibal attack when a man ate another man's face
  • Users experience heart palpitations, nausea, hallucinations, paranoia and erratic behavior

Two more cannibal attacks have been reported in the U.S. as police warn of a dangerous new mind-altering drug called Cloud Nine.

The ecstasy-like drug is part of a new line of over-the-counter 'bath salts' implicated in an attack last week in which a growling naked man chewed off most of a homeless man's face before being shot dead by Miami police.

In the latest incident a snarling homeless man in Miami threatened to eat two officers on Saturday and had to be fitted with a Hannibal Lecter-style bite mask.
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More...
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...ue-warning-new-drug-TWO-cannibal-attacks.html
 
Good job huffington post. Finally some responsible journalism on the issue.

They find weed but no other substances? Makes no sense. Probably was some sherm on that joint.

He had a Koran in the car and a bible with him? Odd....
 
^I believe you 23536. Been/lived in NOLA so I get this. Never considered voudou as all 'bad' spirit.
 
How come zombies keep getting lumped into this?


These are stories about humans craving man-meat. Unless I've missed some important details not one of these human eaters have risen from the dead and then ate someone.
 
because normal people don't eat other people, and zombies are known for it. it is shitty black comedy at the situation, something is seriously fucked up in a society where people go mental and eat other people, but weirdly it doesn't seem to be an uncommon thing, on or off drugs, recently or in the past.
 
I`m still befuddled as to why "Bath Salts" were blamed right out of the gate. Did they find empty wrappers of branded RC`s in his car? Like I said before,this is just shitty journalism.
"High on Bath salts!"-Hmm,so far he tested positive for weed(how did they test him tho?) and found mystery pills in his stomach.
"Cannibal!!"-Nope again,no face meat in his stomach either.
Next we`ll find out they got the names of the attacker and victim wrong too.

Maybe they were drug buddies and as a joke the one guy stuck pills all over his face and told the other guy to try and eat as many as he could? Kinda like bobbing for apples? Then the other guy got carried away?
 
I don't know, people who feel the daily torment of depression that leads them to wanting to die (religious, had a girlfriend..?) would assumably be fairly empathetic towards a homeless man... certainly couldn't see them thinking 'if I strip myself and this man naked and rip off parts of his face with my teeth, a cop is surely to come along and shoot me!"

Why wouldn't he just spray paint a plastic gun and start aiming it at all those police that were there for that hip-hop gathering? They were there to watch over a hip-hop show, everyone knows those honkey's signed up specifically for the possibility to kill some darkies.

I am betting (and hoping) that these pills get tested as scopolamine or another chemical often used in Haitian voodoo. I honestly believe this is all caused from religious influence and datura/scopolamine.
 
Doctor_Ew420 said:
I am betting (and hoping) that these pills get tested as scopolamine or another chemical often used in Haitian voodoo. I honestly believe this is all caused from religious influence and datura/scopolamine.
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This. Had to be some sort of deleriant/psychosis.
 
poledriver said:
The autopsy discovered a number of undigested pills in his stomach that have not yet been identified.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...mach-of-cannibal/story-e6frev00-1226389848163
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Interesting. I guess he just chewed and spat. It will be hilarious if the pills are not bath salts at all and the media has been carrying on for so long in a state of raving moral panic while playing the blame game. Still, it's easy to imagine this is a case of a mistaken MDPV overdose leading to a few days awake and finally a psychotic break.

This whole spat of cannibal crimes reminds me of Malcolm Gladwell's coverage of an epidemic of child suicides in the Philippines. There was a string of very young children committing suicide, seemingly just out of mimicry, as if they didn't recognize their own mortality. He also found a pattern of incidents where people would crash their cars, killing themselves and others, just after high profile media coverage of suicide, as if the drivers were unconsciously crashing their cars because the suicide idea was out there giving them permission. The Big Lurch cannibalism incident also followed a pattern of musicians committing acts of extraordinary barbarism and murder (e.g. a Norwegian Black Metal artist had also done something totally heinous just before the Lurch lung eating thing). Despite the likely or confirmed involvement of drugs and psychosis, the timing of these events indicates that at their root these bizarre phenomena largely may boil down to "monkey see, monkey do" social permissiveness. It's just bizarre and stupid enough to be a human truth.
 
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I doubt it's bath salts. First, no one gets hungry on bath salts:). Second, bath salts don't give "super human strength", bath salt actually made me get fatigued easily when working out. Third, all the good ones are banned, most of them seem to be dimethocaine now.

I don't think PCP is usually that bad, what happened to Big Lurch is not typical, so I doubt it's that.

Since they found pills in his stomach, my vote is for benzo blackout. I've seen people blackout on benzos, it puts meth, PCP, bath salt and crack to shame in terms of bizarre behavior. The thing is while you blackout, I've seen some take like 40 pills without realizing it! You are totally not in control of what you do, can't remember what happened a second ago, can't talk them down, it falls on deaf ears and I've seen some get into fights, steal stuff or vandalize property with no recollection of it.
 
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