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Sugar Babies?

consider the following:

there is a girl i know who is smart and pretty, just has some trouble making ends meet plus no help from family. she gets involved in a fun relationship with a man more than twice her age. it works: he's loaded, she's having fun, they benefit each other immensely and no one feels used. they are as close as two people can be - life companions.

then, she discovers she's pregnant. she wants to keep the baby out of motherly instinct that suddenly kicks in. the man, however, is unwavering: having a child is a deeper commitment than he signed up for, regardless of how she feels and regardless of how close she thought they had become.

he convinces her to have an abortion, holding her hand through the process and paying the bills. problem solved.

or is it? the girl becomes emotionally distraught and begins getting way too fucked up... daily. she spends more time away from him, has boyfriends, "lives life," but is always trying to numb the pain of giving up a child she wanted to keep.

and every time the going gets tough and she needs some money, she calls up the guy and lets him fuck her, or she sucks his old, grey dick.

true story.

but maybe some people think they can buck the trend and do everything right, not get caught up in being human.
 
The concept of "friends with benefits" manifests itself in many social paradigms. The word "prostitution" is just like "drugs", political rhetoric to limit semantics.

I don't see a problem as long as nobody is deceiving anyone.
 
Just as long as she never expects to be with me... I would never be with a woman who disrespects herself like that. Ewwww, just how many loads in the face from a creepy dude is the money worth?

Cuz thats just what I want to know when hooking up with a nice gal. Oh yes, she sucks rich guys dicks for money... Thats my catch right there!

Not.
 
Some people are born with brains, some people are born with looks.
If it's so wrong for a woman with good looks to sell herself, then wouldn't it be just as wrong for a mathematically gifted physicist to develop mind shattering theories? Work with what you're born with.
 
Can't your friend find a way to make money without doing this?

I do not see anything wrong with someone doing sex for pay but it is very dangerous. I saw a true crime TV show last night where some young adult women thought they were going into this sort of relationship or even just having a boyfriend and they became some mens' sexual slaves and were forced into sexual slavery and prostitution by these men who they thought were sugar daddies/wealthy boyfriends who wanted to lavish them with gifts.
 
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I can't believe the attitude in this thread towards "whores". BL will jump down anyone's throat who says a woman can't sleep with whatever guy she wants, but the second that a single sex act can be tied to money, it's wrong? Get real. This romantic/ biblical notion of what a male/ female relationship should be is really getting old. It's the 21st century people-- We have available a wealth of information available to us on human sexuality and yet we choose to think like we're in the Middle Ages. Let's take a look at how human sexuality has developed in a tribe of uncontacted peoples:

An eyewitness observed the following scene from his boat off a Sentineli beach:

... we were about to return when a couple of natives were seen on the land, apparently keeping a vigil. We approached closer, keeping a safe distance from the shore, when more men came out of cover armed with their usual weapons, threatening to shoot at us. We had taken a few large fish caught during the previous night to offer as an appeasement gift to these people. We exhibited these, with gestures of offering. Meanwhile, men were converging on the spot from all direction. Some were waist deep in water and threatening to shoot. However, we approached closer and threw a couple of the fish towards them. They fell short of them and were being carried away by the water. This gesture had a mellowing effect on their belligerent mood. Quite a few discarded their weapons and gestured to us to throw the fish. The women came out of the shade to watch our antics. In their height and stature they were equal to the men except that the lines were softer and they carried no arms... There were 20 children. We approached the coast a little further from them and managed to land a couple of fish on shore. A few men came and picked up the fish. They appeared to be gratified, but there did not seem to be much softening to their hostile attitude. Again we approached the group. They all began shouting some incomprehensible words. We shouted back and gestured to indicate that we wanted to be friends. The tension did not ease. At this moment, a strange thing happened - a woman paired off with a warrior and sat on the sand in a passionate embrace. This act was being repeated by other women, each claiming a warrior for herself, a sort of community mating, as it were. Thus did the militant group diminish. This continued for quite some time and when the tempo of this frenzied dance of desire abated, the couples retired into the shade of the jungle. However, some warriors were still on guard. We got close to the shore and threw some more fish which were immediately retrieved by a few youngsters. It was well past noon and we headed back to the ship...
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The natives of the Great Andaman at the present time show an unusual prudery in their conversation and dealings with white men, but there is good reason to suspect that this is due to the influence of officers who have been in charge of the Andaman Home in former years. At the present time all the men except a few of the oldest in remote parts are very careful never to appear before a white man without some covering although formerly they wore nothing. In their conversations in the presence of a white man they are careful to avoid reference to sexual matters. The men of Little Andaman who have not come under the influence of the Andamanese Homes, still go naked and unashamed, and indulge in obscene gestures and jokes. At the time I was in the Andamans [1906-1908] I failed to realize the very great importance of a thorough knowledge of the notions of a primitive people on matters of sex in any attempt to understand their customs, and therefore failed to make the necessary inquiries.
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if it is consensual and both people are happy with the relationship, who cares?
 
Just an update, she still hasnt made up her mind but apparently signed up for some free "seeking arrangement" site "just to check it out". I told her if thats what she wants to do, I wont judge her, just be as Safe as possible and make sure you know what youre getting into. Apparently this site clearly spells out the role of a sugar daddy and a sugar baby and makes sure both parties are content with it. They both say what theyre looking for, some men are lonely, busy, or just want no commitment attached and are willing to shell out an "allowance" or tuition etc in exchange for companionship. Not all the men on the site are old, many are still in their twenties! AND some of the sugar daddys are actually sugar mamas! I think if I started this thread by saying my friend was a dude, looking for a sugar mama, more people would hop on the bandwagon since its a misconception that only men can be in control of their sexuality. Not saying I would everr have the mindset to be in such an arrangement, but I can understand why certain ppl choose to do so especially in tough circumstances. If neither party feels used, if a friendship is established, and they both are able to feel good about themselves afterwards (probably the hardest part but maybe not depending on if theyre friends and take it slow) i guess, why not, almost seems like an old school asian geisha or something its about more than just sex.
Guys can sleep around and no one judges, they receive high fives instead of darting glares... so if a girl chooses one additional sexual partner, even if it is based on his available resources, I dont think it makes her damaged goods. No one judges men for only dating attractive young women, so I feel as if women should not be judged so harshly for choosing a rich successful man.
 
The main thing to keep in mind is make sure that she's safe!
When she's meeting a guy for a first time, maybe you (or someone else she's close to) should go with her to meet the guy. If he's a decent guy, he will understand that she needs someone to go along with her for the first "date".
 
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I agree that if there were to be an actual friendship between the two, in a relationship that gradually progressed, it wouldn't be much different than any young/older and wealthy relationship.
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i don't think people advertise on sugar daddy websites for a companion they can get to know and respect. i think what they're looking for is more like:

every time the going gets tough and she needs some money, she calls up the guy and lets him fuck her, or she sucks his old, grey dick.
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this is one of those things you can justify in terms of hypothetical circumstances and idealistic moral relativism, but the reality is likely far from what you're imagining. likewise, what's she going to do when it comes time (will it ever?) to support herself and date guys she's actually interested in?
 
As long as she is safe and the guy is decent company for her... I actually despise more the sugar daddies than the sugar babies, but whatever. They're there, and I see nothing wrong in taking advantage of their money (I would do the same, maybe, if I had the requirements to be a sugar whatever :P)
 
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