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MDPV Megathread 7: ektamine, we all approve and miss you

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wonderbred said:
Now that he knows this, even though the post traumatic consequences far exceed the pleasurable onset, he feels that he still wants to fly again. after DAYS of pure terror, this substance still has that compulsive allure to it for him. He is baffled by this. "Buy the ticket, take the ride" - Hunter S. Thompson
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No reason to be baffled - it's called "addiction". Hunter knew it well as he was hopelessly addicted to cocaine and a host of other drugs for the last decades of his life after producing all his good work in the first few years of his stim honeymoon.

I think Riklet's summary is excellent and spot-on btw......this is a profoundly addicting and dangerous drug that clearly changes the brain physically in ways that produce profound compulsion to use despite negative consequences ("addiction" - what is frequently anachronistically described on BL as "psychological addiction"). We have far too short a history of human use, far too little human data, and far too little formal research to say anything about potential long term damage to parts of the body other than the brain, but we do know that young healthy sports enthusiast and peev-fiend Ektamine dropped dead and there is no reason to assume that the Chinese labs aren't producing all sorts of fascinating neurotoxic or carcinogenic contaminants in every batch. It does seem to be that we can safely say that abuse of MDPV doesn't carry the sort of high likelihood of sudden death from overdose that abuse of drugs like opioids do, but assuming much beyond that seems naive to me at best.

On the other hand, if "tan" really exists and really is a sexual stimulant powerful enough to turn entire villages of pious Central American peasants into dog-fuckers the world has to know and everyone is this thread is a vitally important researcher - so please don't let a little mortality and morbidity scare you off! We need a thousand monkeys smoking "peevee", watch pron, and taking notes.....
 
----------"he / you went to a psych ward after using 1 gram? it sounds to me he / you had an underlying condition that was exasperated by using MDPV."

Your right.. he had been awake for 48 ish hours waiting for it. He was also used to doing ~30-50 mg 'bumps" of name brand bath salts. His first does was an unwittingly ignorant 30-50 mg. far cry from a recommended 5 mg "test" dose that should have been regulated. But alas, the excitement and anticipation got the worst of him and he jumped the gun. He can't remember the re-dose intervals, because all he recalls is the trouble of executing a proper dosing out of the 20g bag without the shadow people catching him. This went on for three days until he 'gave himself up.' He thought he was going to jail. At 3:00 pm. "They" were very specific about that. so then he was Dumping any evidence of anything incriminating. Hundreds of dollars in glassware was smashed. 7 lbs of his precious MHRB was washed in the washing machine...(lol...sorry but thats funny, i don't care who you are.....) as was a couple lbs of syrian rue, containers, old medications, the suboxine (that he should have taken), quarter of weed,.... everything went, but not without a huge mess.

There is so much more to his tyrannical episodes that he is still filling the voids today....12 days after his last 'six' day episode.
As much as he would like his own questions answered, he wonders if there are any specific questions he can answer while the mind is fresh with memory but coherent enough now to confidently do so.
 
^a friend did a similar thing. Infact two have...
Giving away / flushing / burning whatever they could because it was prison time >.<
 
I lov pV more than tV. lalala
yesterday when my 3 simultaneous mdpv shop orders were so far away....

actually i fear the coming 100mg mxe sample much much more than the peveee.

other question. what to take first. the releaser or the reuptake inhibitor?
 
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I'd suggest not combining peev with mex meself...

Doubt ya could do all that much damage with just 100mg of mex but I would rather strongly advise not even trying to combine it with peev at any dose. Even 100mg of mex whilst peeved makes one's eye's water and brain bleed just to consider... Not necessarily in an overly enjoyable way either. Hysterical, yes. Fun... possibly.

Would be fuckin' hilarious to watch... but possibly less hilarious to live through ;)

Or maybe not. Potential for total mind and body fuckery is high... very high :D
 
when i speak of fear and scare i mean it psychologically.

but is it really such an exotic question what to take first. reuptake inhibitor or releaser. (mdma is both or am i wrong?)
 
i dont want to combine. maybe some mxe for comedown. but my last and initial mxe episode was IV and too much. and with mdai. which is ultra dangerous. what i didnt know back then. therefore i fear mxe. and for its telepathic character
 
Hmm... I wouldn't recommend MXE as a comedown from peev on the basis that it's stimulating as fuck and tends towards paranoia and psychosis. Not the ideal for winding down a peev sesh for most. Are benzos not an option? Would be far more appropriate really. If anything. Frankly, just not taking any more peev works best. Very short half-life has peev. As long as you don't redose you'll be snoozing within an hour or two generally. Imo, ime, lsd, xtc, jcb, nfa, dea, doa, etc.

If you fear MXE taking it to comedown from an uberparanoid stim is possibly not the best option?

On the other hand, MDAI may actually be not such a bad idea. MDMA totally cleans the cobwebs for me (and many others apparently) after a peev sesh. Very, very. very low dose MDMA anyway. A tickle is all it takes. I could well imagine MDAI performing admirably in such situations. But keep the dosage low. Properly low. If comedown alleviation is your goal. If ya just wanna get fuxxorred than sling it all in a spoon and shoot the fuckin' lot I say.
 
mxe has some opiate characteristics. so a few mg for a comedown would not be that bad.
once i did this after a 4-fa/methylon session.

about mdai. i think there is a documented death (here on bl) with exactly this combination: mxe + mdai. at least it completely knocked me out in relativly small doses.
 
I thought that MXE/opiate thang was disproved ages ago? Got shit all opiate characteristics that I've ever noticed. YMMV and all that though...

AS for MXE combos, I had a wee rail against 'em last night. Bad news mostly. Fortunately I only mentioned MDMA/MDAI in relation to peev comedowns which not only don't kill ya but also work a fuckin' treat for killing any comedown issues :)
 
Shambles said:
Frankly, just not taking any more peev works best.
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my yesterday lyric was not only a song i sang. ("yesterday when my 3 simultaneous mdpv shop orders were so far away....")
so i don't know if your method would work :)

how about you? you seem very sober ... i think i remember that you don't have a shop sending you pv?

as for combination i plan to make a 3-fa and pv combo. well plan is not appropriate. it's more like open the baggies and bam bang HERE i am. :D
 
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I have no shop sending me peev... cos they don't sell it in shops. Not here (or... anywhere else?) anyway. More's the pity.

My "method" (hardly a method really - more just basic chemistry: stop taking a drug, it mysteriously stops working a bit later ;)) does indeed work. For me anyway. Some folks apparently find sleep a struggle for quite some considerable time. I only have that problem up until the baggie's empty meself. Funnily enough. Wonder if there's a connection?!? 8o

Was that that McCartneyesque Beatles song wot you dun did alterciferate? Hate the bloody thing but certainly has potential for additional verse fuckery.

"Leprosy,
I'm not half the man I used to be,
Bits and pieces falling off of me,
Oh I believe in leprosy."

Is a personal fave of mine.

If that's not the lyric you were semi-quoting then... consider that simply a bonus.
 
Please don't stop posting until the Hansen's makes your tongue fall off Shambles<3 - and the rest of you please get smoking, sexing, and reporting to us on both....
 
Iused to be able to sleep fine after a short while after last peevee dose, like sham says, hour at most,... vaped ayway

sometimes last doses of evenings used to make me sleepy even.
 
Shambles said:
Very short half-life has peev. As long as you don't redose you'll be snoozing within an hour or two generally. Imo, ime, lsd, xtc, jcb, nfa, dea, doa, etc.
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Really? Do you take anything extra like benzos to aid the sleep. I cant even imagine being able to sleep a couple of hours after dosing.
 
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