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MDPV Megathread 7: ektamine, we all approve and miss you

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2 porn vids playing in side by side windows and a skrillex track, do an MTV and jack it fierce its the fucking best! YEAH!!=D the fucking best!!!
 
definitely not. when i got it it was requesting through an EU vendor but i seem to remember it being posted from London.

this stuff was so much stronger than the white it was unreal, but either i have got used to it or it has lost some potency. The very first time i tried it i eyeballed what i would say was the size of the red part of a matchstick and it fucking blew me away.
 
the more times I read this thread the more I woneder why I never "got" mdpv, it's my perfect drug by all accounts, but it just made me fee like heart attck time f I tried dosing enough to "get" it, if you see hwat I ema, I'm annoyed I never "got" it, but I'm not gonna give it another try, wasted a lot of weeks last year diong werid things and havinmg weird ideas and feeling like I was having eart attack signs but kept persvering...

over and out on this thread, glad you all enojoting yourselves, and justa tad jeallous
 
FlippingTop said:
GBL or a nice benzo + smoking is how you get it.

Sniffing/oral repeat dosing = 'wierd' ideas + heart attacks :)
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always vaped it, all day long, climbing into the back of work van to do it... :o

used to do benzos after peevee to try and stop the impending "heart attacks" , (but NEVER did benxos in PREPARATION for a peevee binge) but just made me do more, WITH NO GOOD EFFECTS....and I don't get why, I never enjoyed it, but just did it...I've been in this thread so often sayong same thing, not gonna keep repeating meslef, as I said, i'm genuinely pleased for you lot enjoying it, and more than genuinely jealous :D
 
I think the people that enjoy pv fall into 2 camps. Those that can control dosing and keep it as a functional stimulant vs those that 'go mad' on multi day long repeated heavy dosing binges until they loose themselves in psychosis.

When i can keep to controlled use i enjoy pv more, but its hard to do that and avoid straying into the long binges. I've been on a few long binges but didnt really enjoy them all that much tbh.

Im scared of PV now after learning that it has caused several deaths. Worried about my ticker. So recently ive not quite given up but only do it occasionally and try to keep it moderate. Having a little dabble this weekend.
 
Is more detail known about these mdpv related deaths? What was the exact cause of death... I.e. overdose, kidney failure due to excessive mdpv use, etc. Just curious if anyone knows so hopefully similar deaths in the future can be avoided....
 
I was under the impression that MDPV was fairly benign?

Can anyone actually give a correct answer?
 
mister said:
I was under the impression that MDPV was fairly benign?

Can anyone actually give a correct answer?
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That WAS the original impression because there were no proven associated deaths until recently.. Since then, over the last couple of years the death reports have started coming through. And Toxicologists have only just started testing for it in some post mosterms.
 
mydrugbuddy said:
That WAS the original impression because there were no proven associated deaths until recently.. Since then, over the last couple of years the death reports have started coming through. And Toxicologists have only just started testing for it in some post mosterms.
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can you elaborate on whether the deaths were a direct result of MDPV causing organs to shut down such as kidneys or heart attack. Or was the cause of death misadventure such as getting lost in snow or self harming from psychosis?

The boffin's over in ADD suggest that MDPV is a fairly benign drug and not cardio toxic, Im not sure what it does to the kidney's but Ive heard binges can cause kidney pain but most symptoms go after abstinence.
 
I have also read in many places that MDPV is pretty benign on the body and not cardio toxic. I would bet that the deaths come about from people hoofing massive lines off the stuff and their heart not taking it.
 
Have seen the odd report of a peev fatality... so far all have ended up either not being peev-related at all or being "misdadventure" kinda stuff. Yet to see a case of peev itself killing anyone. Or even doing any damage (trips to psycheward excluded ;)). Given the excess many of the fiends even in this 'ere thread - let alone the wider world - have indulged in with zero physical issues, and the lack of any confirmed health issues at all since it first hit the scene years ago, I'd be gobsmacked if it suddenly started killing folk. I'd suspect either not peev at all, adulterated peev, mislabelled drug that ain't peev at all, or misadventure.
 
I think the reports on MDPV on BL should be enough to show any fairly reasonable person that it is hard to determine what "safe" means with a drug, in abstraction.

Yes it might be fairly physically benign but a rather/disproportionately large number of posters have smoked an absolute shed ton of the stuff off foil, had minor health problems and stimulant binge health problems, suffered from bad comedowns and emotional/mood after-effects etc.

Lots of people have used MDPV in a way you could say was full on addiction mode, and resembling much more crystal meth usage than anything like MDMA etc. Also, a large number have had psychotic symptoms, psychotic episodes or full on (lasting) psychosis. Many users have also used benzos/alcohol/GBL to help them handle full on MDPV seshing, all of which are highly addictive drugs in their own right, with plenty of addiction stories as well.

The fact that people might be denial about this and keen to view it as 'not so bad' says quite a lot about its addictive potential IMO; justifications of behaviour and what's "normal" etc. I reckon MDPV is right up there with GBL, alcohol, ketamine, benzos and heroin as a thing that has been a powerful catalyst to self-destruction for quite a few posters here, there's 6 more megathreads to read through just in EADD alone if you want evidence for me thinkin that!

Of course, there's lots of people who have used MDPV that haven't had the bad tings so much or at all, and it is a real enjoyable drug at points. YMMV kind of thing though....
 
Ahhh i wasn't "quoting" or responding to just you really shambles, wasn't trying to have a go exactly, but having read peoples' views n opinions about mdpv for several years people generally do make it out to be really quite a safe drug. Perhaps used alone and in moderation it definitely is..... i was just pointing out that the "abstract" situation of this is quite far removed from how lots of people have and do use it on this site, especially as one needs to consider ROAs like smoking it or IVing it are probably/definitely riskier and dodgier on the health.

it's going to take years anyway to really find out if there's a significant link between (heavy) mdpv use and/or the impurities in the stuff chinese labs cook up... and long term health problems. hopefully not though!
 
Shambles said:
Have seen the odd report of a peev fatality... so far all have ended up either not being peev-related at all or being "misdadventure" kinda stuff. Yet to see a case of peev itself killing anyone. Or even doing any damage (trips to psycheward excluded ;)). Given the excess many of the fiends even in this 'ere thread - let alone the wider world - have indulged in with zero physical issues, and the lack of any confirmed health issues at all since it first hit the scene years ago, I'd be gobsmacked if it suddenly started killing folk. I'd suspect either not peev at all, adulterated peev, mislabelled drug that ain't peev at all, or misadventure.
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Well said. It's almost weird how "not harmful" it is and yet its so addicting and feindish that its easy to forget to sleep or take care of yourself.

When i was at the height of my mdpv addiction I had a few mega crashes where i just passed out and slept for 12 hour. Sometimes it took people hours to wake my by phone or even banging on my window and door. One of these times it was my student adviser for my grad school and she knew something was wrong with me. I was so under weight, was getting scratches and sores that wouldnt heal(not as bad as meth sores iv seen) and I was an emotional wreck. She made me go to the doctor and have a full blood work done. But when the tests came back the doctor said i was completely healthy. He said my cholesterol was great! The doctor actually thought i might have narcolepsy. Im just glad they never suspected drugs.

But i was an extreme case, doing a half a gram and sleeping maybe 12 hours a week. I do still have a scar on my face from a sore i got that wouldn't heal back then. But it wasnt nessisarly the mdpv doing that, it was the long periods of poor nutrition and health due to drug binging.
 
how does MDPV go with GBL? whats the positives and negatives of this mix?
 
After finding himself in the psych ward the first time he got 20g MDPV - CRAZY-P - (19grams going down the drain prior to hospitalization), he decided it was in order for him to double check his conclusions on this substance once more and obtained 10g. The first 36-48 hours were delightful, dosing .10 mg about every five hours. What he has found is that it is not "IF" psychosis sets in, it is "when" it sets in. he figures if the compulsive urge to redoes is halted at about 48 hours or less, psychosis does not have a chance to set in. Once the sleep deprivation onsets,however, is where he believe the rationality is dissolved into delusion. For him, this is when the damn shadow people started to show themselves. The same ones that put him in the psych ward the first time were out for him again and this time, he was prepared for battle. he lost. He was literally in unfathomable violence with one sole shadow in the confines of his room as he relentlessly tore his room apart trying to hide what was left of the crazy powder. He simply could not do it. The shadow people would not let him. and torment him they did. for hours. until he sailed his white flag, rushed to the basin, and dumped the evil down the toilet. Now when he went back to the room, all was calm. and the sole shadow befriended him. silently hinting the things that he had done the past WEEK. The comedown was to be another living hell for him, Lasting several days. the shadow people are gone from his site, he says, but he still truly believes that they are still out there. Waiting. On red alert.
Would he do it again? yes he says....but with greater restrictions. (famous last words). The compulsive redoes urge is greater than he had ever felt before, and after a few days, he is not even sure he redosed at all. Would he recommend it. If one is all about seeing everything there is to see, taking the good with the bad, fly my poor soul. But be warned...Your going to get exactly what you ask for. Some things are better off left unknown. Now that he knows this, even though the post traumatic consequences far exceed the pleasurable onset, he feels that he still wants to fly again. after DAYS of pure terror, this substance still has that compulsive allure to it for him. He is baffled by this. "Buy the ticket, take the ride" - Hunter S. Thompson
 
wonderbred said:
After finding himself in the psych ward the first time he got 20g MDPV - CRAZY-P - (19grams going down the drain prior to hospitalization), he decided it was in order for him to double check his conclusions on this substance once more and obtained 10g. The first 36-48 hours were delightful, dosing .10 mg about every five hours. What he has found is that it is not "IF" psychosis sets in, it is "when" it sets in. he figures if the compulsive urge to redoes is halted at about 48 hours or less, psychosis does not have a chance to set in. Once the sleep deprivation onsets,however, is where he believe the rationality is dissolved into delusion. For him, this is when the damn shadow people started to show themselves. The same ones that put him in the psych ward the first time were out for him again and this time, he was prepared for battle. he lost. He was literally in unfathomable violence with one sole shadow in the confines of his room as he relentlessly tore his room apart trying to hide what was left of the crazy powder. He simply could not do it. The shadow people would not let him. and torment him they did. for hours. until he sailed his white flag, rushed to the basin, and dumped the evil down the toilet. Now when he went back to the room, all was calm. and the sole shadow befriended him. silently hinting the things that he had done the past WEEK. The comedown was to be another living hell for him, Lasting several days. the shadow people are gone from his site, he says, but he still truly believes that they are still out there. Waiting. On red alert.
Would he do it again? yes he says....but with greater restrictions. (famous last words). The compulsive redoes urge is greater than he had ever felt before, and after a few days, he is not even sure he redosed at all. Would he recommend it. If one is all about seeing everything there is to see, taking the good with the bad, fly my poor soul. But be warned...Your going to get exactly what you ask for. Some things are better off left unknown. Now that he knows this, even though the post traumatic consequences far exceed the pleasurable onset, he feels that he still wants to fly again. after DAYS of pure terror, this substance still has that compulsive allure to it for him. He is baffled by this. "Buy the ticket, take the ride" - Hunter S. Thompson
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he / you went to a psych ward after using 1 gram? it sounds to me he / you had an underlying condition that was exasperated by using MDPV.
I know people get into trouble with it but most seem to return to normal after stopping.

I actually love the stuff for sexy times on the net :) but I dont binge for days with no sleep or food, I can vape a bit every couple of nights (20mgs +), eat and go to sleep, only going a bit harder on Friday and / or Saturday night where Ill vape maybe 50-100mgs and be in bed by 2-3am, but ive only ever pulled an all nighter 3-4 times. Once its gone I can leave it alone for a few months until I get the urge again.

And yes I get peevee from a reputable vendor or 2
 
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