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The Big & Dandy MDAI Thread: Second Dose

edar said:
You can never know for sure unless you send it for a Lab Test.
i sent mine, and laboratory analysis showed a mixture of BZP and TFMPP
and Caffeine ... there was no MDAI in the mixture at all !!!
suppliers often sell something else labeled as "mdai" ...
sometimes cathinones, sometimes piperazines,
and who knows what more...
this is why we have to test it
there is alarmingly high percentage of fake MDAI on the market
be careful
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Where did you get it tested? Was it the site that charges $125? I'm curious but not $125 worth of curious. It may just end up in my toilet.
 
Xzbtya said:
Where did you get it tested? Was it the site that charges $125? I'm curious but not $125 worth of curious. It may just end up in my toilet.
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i get it tested in Amsterdam (Netherlands), and it was free of charge.
but you cannot send it there, only to bring it there (if you are close)...

edar
 
What's the half-life of MDAI in the body? I took a light dose last night, just had a few beers and I swear I'm feeling it again.
 
jimf4ii said:
What's the half-life of MDAI in the body? I took a light dose last night, just had a few beers and I swear I'm feeling it again.
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Not sure that anyone knows, I felt the initial relaxation from it for about 4-5 hours and then I think I ran out of serotonin and things went down hill haha. What does yours look like. -snip-

Sounds suspiciously like sourcing - what relevance does his location have to anything? ~Jesusgreen
 
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Xzbtya said:
Not sure that anyone knows, I felt the initial relaxation from it for about 4-5 hours and then I think I ran out of serotonin and things went down hill haha. What does yours look like.
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My vendor referred to it as "brown", but I'd call it a dirty yellow. It's a very fine powder that sticks to your fingers and forms into clumps. I actually submitted a sample to ecstasydata.org, I'll remember to link to it here if they post an analysis.
 
5,6-Methylenedioxy-1-indanone

That wouldn't even be psychoactive. No primary amine. Evidently the machinery is dodgy.
 
I'm not sure how to read the ecstasydata.org report. Is it saying that it was 50% 5,6-Methylenedioxy-1-indanone, and 50% an unidentified substance? Do they count the gelcap itself? I know I sent them 40mg of the substance in a gelcap that weighed 40mg, note they say the "size" is 81mg, do you think they are counting the gelcap as the "Unidentified"?
 
I would guess so. Weigh one of your caps. If its 41mg roughly then you know.

I fail to see how they could mistake an Amine group for a ketone. However it is at the wrong position so you could possibly have MDAI with the amine at the 2nd position not the third. Maybe 3-indane has never been sold, so we don't even know what real MDAI feels like. Maybe this explains the variances in reports from different batches. Who knows.
 
can anyone tell me the duration of MDAI IV? i've searched a lot, found oral duration to be three hours, one trip report saying 30 min (!) for IV?

doesn't sound really speedy, would i be able to sleep after 3 hrs?

i ask because i have to get up early every day right now.
 
i against i said:
can anyone tell me the duration of MDAI IV? i've searched a lot, found oral duration to be three hours, one trip report saying 30 min (!) for IV?

doesn't sound really speedy, would i be able to sleep after 3 hrs?

i ask because i have to get up early every day right now.
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I've never IV'ed it and I don't plan to. However it might not be a good idea to use this stuff if you have to get up early. It always makes me very tired the next day. I forced myself to wake up early the day after using it once and I kept almost falling asleep while driving until a concerta I took kicked in.
 
So I bought a G of MPA a while ago and I've been reading that it combines well with MDAI. I was wondering if anyone knows about combining MPA with MMAI as I found it to be cheaper.
Or any info on MDAI is appreciated.
 
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i'm sorry, and don't mean to be obtuse, but it seems that some of what you've posted contradicts itself, e.g., u stated that the chemical, were it truly MDAI, would be white, as pure, unadulterated chemicals r, but then the photo u supplied looks clearly beige, not nearly white at all. so i'm confused. should it be white, or beige? thank u for your input.
peace
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DwayneHoover said:
It SHOULD be close to white... 98% of the time color in a pure molecular substance are due to impurities. Some things do have color however. It should be possible to google and discover at some chemistry site the natural color of the pure compound.

Criminey... did you think to even check the authoritative Erowid? How come? They have an MDAI vault containing the following picture... slightly off-white, but certainly not tan or brown:

mdai_summary1.jpg


Are you 100% certain Marquis should be red? Sounds like it is still rumors and urban legends to me. Get some and test it and let us know what happens.

Well, a simple search of [mdai color] gave this... I am sure you can find out more... jesus people, dont so fuckin lazy... do a little proper research, more than just reading druggie groups like this, but GOOGLE then DIG and READ!!! It's not that tough to do.

http://www.morefreeinformation.com/...he-web-Here-is-some-solid-Recommendation.html

(MODS - despite the title there are NO vendors mentioned or hinted at) Partial excerpt:

Analysis report - Correct retailers will certainly have an analysis report of the substances they are selling if you might be in doubt about the high quality of mdai an internet site may be offering ask the seller for an evaluation report.

Colour - MDAI when large in purity is white. A great deal of internet websites offer MDAI as a brown substance, in this case it really is either impure or merely not MDAI.

Once you uncover a retailer you can trust i would advise you stick to them lots of web site also provide a loyalty bonus when you subscribe to their service and newsletter. Of course should you do locate another reputable seller you could use them as effectively just make sure you test their services obtain starting with tiny amounts.

Just to go over the keynotes again. MDAI should be white and not brown in colour. If the selling price is as well great to be true then it most likely is. The product must not be as well cheap and possibly a banned substance. Purchase from a site that provides you their contact data. Obtain from a vendor that provides recorded delivery and tracking.

If you stick to the guidance given above you shoul highly minimize the risk of getting inferior MDAI or obtaining ripped off.
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jimf4ii said:
My vendor referred to it as "brown", but I'd call it a dirty yellow. It's a very fine powder that sticks to your fingers and forms into clumps. I actually submitted a sample to ecstasydata.org, I'll remember to link to it here if they post an analysis.
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Dude, this looks exactly like what my vendor sells. I've been doing a bunch of research trying to find out what the hell was in these pills that are readily available to anyone over 18 years of age, were marketed as "Triple Stack Mood Enhancer" and stated clearly on the packaging that it is not for human consumption. After quite a bit of reading, comparing side effects of psychoactive chemicals I settled on MDAI. I thought that for sure that was it. After further research, it is clear that this, the brownish powdery substance in your gel cap ecstacydata.org has identified as 5,6-Methylenedioxy-1-indanone, is the substance I've been trying to identify. This is very interesting, considering there is basically zero information about the effects of 5,6-Methylenedioxy-1-indanone on humans, or any other animals for that matter. Kinda tripped me out when I realized because I had figured it would be something that was already out there. Damn.
 
I understand the two compounds are different. I wsd saying that the 5,6-methylenedioxy-1-indone was active, which is pretty ignorant of me considering it must have an amine to be active as a substrate in and of itself at synapses. I've had OChem 1&2, biochem and a host of other chem courses, so I should know better than to mistake a compound lacking an amine to act on synapses as a potent agonist of seratonin secretion and inhibitor of seratonin reuptake, which is clearly the type of compound I have. I guess the MDAI does have the closest profile of whatever seratogenic amphetamine-like molecule it may be that I'm dealing with. The capsules I have are identical to the one the above poster sent to ecstacydata.org, and we had basically the same experience with use. So when I saw the results of the tests from ecstacydata, I got a bit too excited. Furthermore, the above amine-less MDxx compound is available from online vendors. Anyway. I think I may send one of my capsules to ecstacydata data to find out for sure, what it is.
 
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